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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 04:48:32 (permalink)
hehehippie
 
i also own a Switch 810 and would love to see more pictures of the whole setup.


 
Systom
Ahh, I see, interesting.




Plus 2 fans blowing fresh air in from the front.
 

post edited by demo23019 - 2016/08/09 05:10:16
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:35:24 (permalink)
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hehehippie
 
i also own a Switch 810 and would love to see more pictures of the whole setup.


 
Systom
Ahh, I see, interesting.




Plus 2 fans blowing fresh air in from the front.
 



Now thats beautifull.
I gave my GF my 970 i replaced with the evga SC 1080 so she can SLI with her 970

1 thing i want to know tho. How good are the HB Bridges? Are they better than the normal bridges we use? Better SLI Stabilities? Do u really get more FPS as well as some of the reviews of these new Bridges say? If so i might have to get her one too lol
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:39:30 (permalink)
The new SLI HB bridges only work with the Pascal GPUs as they allow for the full use of both connectors in parallel.  The 'old' SLI bridges only use one of the bridge connectors between the cards and therefore are best for use with Maxwell and older generation cards.
 
More info here:  http://www.evga.com/articles/01020/evga-pro-sli-bridge-hb/
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:40:51 (permalink)
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1 thing i want to know tho. How good are the HB Bridges? Are they better than the normal bridges we use? Better SLI Stabilities? Do u really get more FPS as well as some of the reviews of these new Bridges say? If so i might have to get her one too lol


 
Really nice! As for the HB bridge i play 1440 165hz and didn't see difference in games i played or benchmarks going from single ribbon to HB TBH i think difference is more so 4k and vram heavy games. Also ive never had any issues with SLI to see improvements with this bridge.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:42:12 (permalink)
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Really nice! As for the HB bridge i play 1440 165hz and didn't see difference in games i played or benchmarks going from single ribbon to HB TBH i think difference is more so 4k and vram heavy games.


It helps to reduce micro stutter as well regardless of resolution ;-)
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:43:11 (permalink)
i edited my post ive never had microstutter with SLI
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:45:37 (permalink)
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i edited my post ive never had microstutter with SLI


You may have never noticed it...until someone points it out, then you will be like, "oooohhh".
 
Not all games exhibit the issue, and some more than others.  I hardly noticed it until I read an article listing the specific games for which micro stutter was prevalent.  Regardless, this is one of the main reasons why high-end enthusiasts prefer single card solutions over SLI configurations.  That and the fact that SLI does not always scale well, regardless of paying twice the price and not getting 2x performance gain in return for that investment.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:51:21 (permalink)
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The new SLI HB bridges only work with the Pascal GPUs as they allow for the full use of both connectors in parallel.  The 'old' SLI bridges only use one of the bridge connectors between the cards and therefore are best for use with Maxwell and older generation cards.
 
More info here:  http://www.evga.com/articles/01020/evga-pro-sli-bridge-hb/


I did see some reviewers testing these bridges on the 900 series as well as they did talk about microstutters and other things but isnt much of a difference if u are still on 1080p or 1440p. I have also seen some reviewers use 2 bridges to see if you will get the same performance as an HB Bridge (Which failed...ofcourse lol) And yes i did research allot on the bridges. But never got to know if its actually worth it if you are still on 1080p.
I think the only thing worth about it now since most of us are on 1080 or 1440 are that "no microstutters" they were talking about
 
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Really nice! As for the HB bridge i play 1440 165hz and didn't see difference in games i played or benchmarks going from single ribbon to HB TBH i think difference is more so 4k and vram heavy games. Also ive never had any issues with SLI to see improvements with this bridge.

Hm. Thank you for that. Till now i tried only 2 games on her PC which was Ark and Battlefield And so far no stutters. The black Bridge you see on her gpu's was defected as i kept getting flickery display ones im on fullscreen. Thank God i had 3 spare bridges lol.
 
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It helps to reduce micro stutter as well regardless of resolution ;-)

Well I might still try getting her 1 if she feels any microstutters lol. 
Thank you guys for the answers ^.^

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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:52:23 (permalink)
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The new SLI HB bridges only work with the Pascal GPUs as they allow for the full use of both connectors in parallel.  The 'old' SLI bridges only use one of the bridge connectors between the cards and therefore are best for use with Maxwell and older generation cards.
 
More info here:  http://www.evga.com/articles/01020/evga-pro-sli-bridge-hb/


I did see some reviewers testing these bridges on the 900 series as well as they did talk about microstutters and other things but isnt much of a difference if u are still on 1080p or 1440p. I have also seen some reviewers use 2 bridges to see if you will get the same performance as an HB Bridge (Which failed...ofcourse lol) And yes i did research allot on the bridges. But never got to know if its actually worth it if you are still on 1080p.
I think the only thing worth about it now since most of us are on 1080 or 1440 are that "no microstutters" they were talking about
 
demo23019
Really nice! As for the HB bridge i play 1440 165hz and didn't see difference in games i played or benchmarks going from single ribbon to HB TBH i think difference is more so 4k and vram heavy games. Also ive never had any issues with SLI to see improvements with this bridge.

Hm. Thank you for that. Till now i tried only 2 games on her PC which was Ark and Battlefield And so far no stutters. The black Bridge you see on her gpu's was defected as i kept getting flickery display ones im on fullscreen. Thank God i had 3 spare bridges lol.
 
Iluv2raceit
 
It helps to reduce micro stutter as well regardless of resolution ;-)

Well I might still try getting her 1 if she feels any microstutters lol. 
Thank you guys for the answers ^.^


Learning is a part of living!  Enjoy that new 1080 ;-)
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:53:11 (permalink)
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i edited my post ive never had microstutter with SLI


You may have never noticed it...until someone points it out, then you will be like, "oooohhh".
 
Not all games exhibit the issue, and some more than others.  I hardly noticed it until I read an article listing the specific games for which micro stutter was prevalent.  Regardless, this is one of the main reasons why high-end enthusiasts prefer single card solutions over SLI configurations.  That and the fact that SLI does not always scale well, regardless of paying twice the price and not getting 2x performance gain in return for that investment.


Well...thats why i didnt want to buy a second 1080 because i always prefer single cards to avoid the SLI issues. I told my gf if she wants she could sell them and buy a 1070 but i am not sure if she is up to it tho

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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:55:07 (permalink)
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So, here's my conspiracy theory (though it doesn't involve super international spies with cats and what not):
 
1) Late June/early July:  Nvidia orders TSMC (in Taiwan) to halt all manufacturing of GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards in late June-early July and to begin reconfiguration of assemble for the Titan X product
2) Early July:  TSMC complies, all GTX1070 and GTX1080 production is halted and reconfiguration of the assemble lines for the Titan X begins
3) Early August:  TSMC meets the initial quota for Titan X production and halts production, begins reconfiguring assemble lines to begin producing GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards again
4) Mid August:  TSMC completes reconfiguration of assemble process and GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards begin to ship from Taiwan to worldwide retailers
5) Late August:  GTX1070 and GTX1080 stock begin to slowly trickle in
6) Early to Mid September:  GTX1070 and GTX1080 "in-stock" status becomes more frequent as consumer sales begin to fall as demand is met (finally)
 
So, based upon my best two cents from my half empty piggy bank, we have the Titan X to thank for the scarce supply of GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards (though the GTX1070 isn't in as much demand as the GTX1080)




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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:58:02 (permalink)
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Learning is a part of living!  Enjoy that new 1080 ;-)


Ye...In the world of PC we never stop learning lol
Man...Never thought i'd crank some games on max settings(vsync off) and get above 160fps kicking at only 2000mhz...I am enjoying every single bit of it ._.

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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 05:59:17 (permalink)
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So, here's my conspiracy theory (though it doesn't involve super international spies with cats and what not):
 
1) Late June/early July:  Nvidia orders TSMC (in Taiwan) to halt all manufacturing of GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards in late June-early July and to begin reconfiguration of assemble for the Titan X product
2) Early July:  TSMC complies, all GTX1070 and GTX1080 production is halted and reconfiguration of the assemble lines for the Titan X begins
3) Early August:  TSMC meets the initial quota for Titan X production and halts production, begins reconfiguring assemble lines to begin producing GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards again
4) Mid August:  TSMC completes reconfiguration of assemble process and GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards begin to ship from Taiwan to worldwide retailers
5) Late August:  GTX1070 and GTX1080 stock begin to slowly trickle in
6) Early to Mid September:  GTX1070 and GTX1080 "in-stock" status becomes more frequent as consumer sales begin to fall as demand is met (finally)
 
So, based upon my best two cents from my half empty piggy bank, we have the Titan X to thank for the scarce supply of GTX1070 and GTX1080 cards (though the GTX1070 isn't in as much demand as the GTX1080)




You have too much time on your hands
 
Simple 1 word explanation for non-design issue delays:  Typhoons 
 
Total disruption of shipments in or out of country - power issues, staff issues ......
 
 
 


Now one would think these are issues that should be prevalent in the 90s and not 2016.  Wow.  Okay, with the exception of the bad weather.  I did check and there were no Typhoons as of recent that should have impacted shipping lanes from Taiwan.  Maybe some tropical storms that could have added a bit of extra fun on the way to the west coast of the US?  Ah well.  Burst my bubble as I always love a conspiracy ;-)
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 06:06:01 (permalink)
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Iluv2raceit
 
Learning is a part of living!  Enjoy that new 1080 ;-)


Ye...In the world of PC we never stop learning lol
Man...Never thought i'd crank some games on max settings(vsync off) and get above 160fps kicking at only 2000mhz...I am enjoying every single bit of it ._.


The sole reason why I bought a Titan X Pascal -- gaming with all settings maxed playing games at UQHD and 4K is absolutely amazing and gratifying AND without having to use SLI = awesome!
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 06:46:29 (permalink)
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Anyone have previous experience with hybrids?. I have been using EVga's Coppers for the past couple gens. Thinking of  buying a hybrid.. Thoughts? Hybrid vs copper?


Copper will always be superior to Hybrid.  "Why", you might ask? Simple.  Full cover water block not only cools the GPU, but also the VRAM, and VRMs.  Hybrid cards only actively cool the GPU.  All other components are passively cooled and do not have coolant flow to move heat away from them.  Hybrids will always be second best to true water cooling solutions.
 
I have attached pics which show the difference of what a full water block cools and what the Hybrid cools with regards to the components on the PCB.  Both cards are GTX980Ti cards.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 06:57:40 (permalink)
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I dunno i seem to have a 1080 hybrid listed in my order history.
So i doubt it was an error.


Yes, my EVGA GTX1080 FTW Hybrid pre-order is also valid and listed in my order history ;-)
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 06:58:50 (permalink)
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Does anyone know what size the Radiator on the 1080 Hybrid will be?
 
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Yes, the EVGA GTX1080 FTW Hybrid uses a 120mm radiator:
 
http://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=4c30d8e6-9959-4f98-87d0-ca09d83ba195
 
Quote from first paragraph:  "The water cooler is completely self contained, with an included 120mm radiator and fan, no filling, no custom tubing, no maintenance. Just plug and play!"
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 07:16:12 (permalink)
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i edited my post ive never had microstutter with SLI


You may have never noticed it...until someone points it out, then you will be like, "oooohhh".
 
Not all games exhibit the issue, and some more than others.  I hardly noticed it until I read an article listing the specific games for which micro stutter was prevalent.  Regardless, this is one of the main reasons why high-end enthusiasts prefer single card solutions over SLI configurations.  That and the fact that SLI does not always scale well, regardless of paying twice the price and not getting 2x performance gain in return for that investment.


Games running on engines with proper SLI support dont micro stutter. Ive been running SLI since gtx 285 i have super sensitive eyes even tiniest imperfection annoy crap out of me why i now have gsync. If i had microstutter i would notice it.
post edited by demo23019 - 2016/08/09 07:18:57
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 08:08:39 (permalink)
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bedbug1226
I dunno i seem to have a 1080 hybrid listed in my order history.
So i doubt it was an error.


Yes, my EVGA GTX1080 FTW Hybrid pre-order is also valid and listed in my order history ;-)



I got the error, and have nothing in my pre-order history....

EDIT: sorry, didn't read the full conversation.
post edited by Shimeon - 2016/08/09 08:10:46
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 08:09:47 (permalink)
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PasTecHi
 
1 thing i want to know tho. How good are the HB Bridges? Are they better than the normal bridges we use? Better SLI Stabilities? Do u really get more FPS as well as some of the reviews of these new Bridges say? If so i might have to get her one too lol


 
Really nice! As for the HB bridge i play 1440 165hz and didn't see difference in games i played or benchmarks going from single ribbon to HB TBH i think difference is more so 4k and vram heavy games. Also ive never had any issues with SLI to see improvements with this bridge.




The HB sli Bridge actually does give you a small performance boost in some games over normal sli bridges. The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 give massive performance boosts with the HB Bridge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWcsaociTjE
post edited by Master_Zone - 2016/08/09 08:16:53
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 08:12:05 (permalink)
Those are 4k test just like i said in post you quoted.
 
edit
 
i said think 4k so disregard
 
but yea i remember seeing that video i dont see any increase in games ive played at 1440/165. Might see in vram heavy like rise tomb raider but don't have to test.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 08:33:56 (permalink)
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hehehippie
 
i also own a Switch 810 and would love to see more pictures of the whole setup.


 
Systom
Ahh, I see, interesting.




Plus 2 fans blowing fresh air in from the front.
 



Now thats beautifull.
I gave my GF my 970 i replaced with the evga SC 1080 so she can SLI with her 970

1 thing i want to know tho. How good are the HB Bridges? Are they better than the normal bridges we use? Better SLI Stabilities? Do u really get more FPS as well as some of the reviews of these new Bridges say? If so i might have to get her one too lol




check youtube for benchmarks of the HB Bridge. some also benchmark using 2 single regular sli bridges. 
post edited by cmoney408 - 2016/08/09 08:36:48
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 08:40:33 (permalink)
"Games running on engines with proper SLI support dont micro stutter. Ive been running SLI since gtx 285 i have super sensitive eyes even tiniest imperfection annoy crap out of me why i now have gsync. If i had microstutter i would notice it."
 
Your eyes are evidently not as sensitive as you may think.
 
Micro stutter is a FACT and it does exist to this day.  Nvidia has admitted it is an unfortunate artifact of SLI. 
post edited by Iluv2raceit - 2016/08/09 08:44:50
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 09:03:50 (permalink)
I have had SLI since my 660's. i dont notice any micro stutter (or problems in general) in most games. what i have noticed, either games work well with sli or they run like complete garbage. i think i have been lucky the majority of games i have played have benefited from sli. i will admit about half my games needed an update or 2 before SLI worked how it should.
 
Just cause 3 and Far Cry 4 were 2 games that ran like garbage in the beginning, both now run well with SLI. i will admit i did sell one of my 980ti's, but i think i may pick it up again if i can find it for $350. 
 
my point isnt that micro stutter does not exist. my point is 1, if it does exist many people may not notice it. if you are one of the lucky to not notice it you should definitely go SLI for a bang for the buck performance gain! or the other option, it doesnt exist in the games i have played. which i guess lucky me.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 09:06:56 (permalink)
Well, I'm going to stop the discussion of micro stutter as it is NOT the topic of this particular forum.  We all have different opinions about it, and that is that.
 
So, who was successful in pre-ordering an EVGA GTX1080 FTW Hybrid card?
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 09:09:28 (permalink)
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hehehippie
 
i also own a Switch 810 and would love to see more pictures of the whole setup.


 
Systom
Ahh, I see, interesting.




Plus 2 fans blowing fresh air in from the front.
 



Now thats beautifull.
I gave my GF my 970 i replaced with the evga SC 1080 so she can SLI with her 970

1 thing i want to know tho. How good are the HB Bridges? Are they better than the normal bridges we use? Better SLI Stabilities? Do u really get more FPS as well as some of the reviews of these new Bridges say? If so i might have to get her one too lol




check youtube for benchmarks of the HB Bridge. some also benchmark using 2 single regular sli bridges. 




 
 
Yeah, I've seen that two normal sli bridges and even 3 way sli bridges give exactly the same performance boost the HB bridge gives. 
 
 
HB Bridge Vs 2 Flexible Bridges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBP1cAl9N8U
 
 
HB Bridge Vs Flexible Bridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXtr0CG-c4
 
Basically it is the drivers doing it, the HB sli bridge does jack all.
post edited by Master_Zone - 2016/08/09 09:12:29
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 09:37:05 (permalink)
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So, who was successful in pre-ordering an EVGA GTX1080 FTW Hybrid card?


I put myself on auto-notify, and the fiancee. While at work she randomly called me and said "it's up" and since I had the page open (was F5'ing through out the day) managed to get one!
 
I can't wait :D
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 09:44:03 (permalink)
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I already had an FTW and I got rid of the FTW because there's still no ETA for the kit, could be a month or two, and then having to deal with trying to get one on the first wave, if you're willing to wait THAT long, you'd might as well just wait for the 1080ti or whatever is coming next--not to mention paying more overall.
 
The wait is getting waaaaaaaay too long for this cards release, I DEEPLY regret not buying gigabyte's waterforce the multiple times I had the chance just because of my loyalty to EVGA, DEEPLY after this error nonsense.


I feel your pain, I really do.  All of us posting here really wanted the best EVGA has to offer.  When patience runs out, then you grab the next best thing.  2 month of trying to grab the next best thing was the same story being told over and over.  30 come in at X, gone in seconds.  Then wait 2-3 weeks, another 10-20 come in, gone in seconds.  Sign up for email notify, what a joke.  By the time you read the email, another 30 was gone hours ago.  This process didnt happen one time, or 2, but watching availability daily for 2 months wears on you.  I gave in, but very glad of my decision other than a "EVGA".
 
Dont let the frustration get to you on the EVGA Hybrid.  I see another 2,000 lurkers at my post that have not signed into EVGA today. EVGA will not have exceptions to the few that signed in here, you have 50X waiting outside this forum.  IF EVGA is just now having a few available, you know they didnt build up any supply at all.  Same story for all these new card.  Get a few in, gone in seconds.
 
You have 3 choices:  1-track it daily and hope you get lucky. 2-wait another month, maybe supply will be better. 3-screw it, grab something else you like.
 
I feel your pain, it hurt me for over 2 months!!  I hope you are one of the lucky few :)
 
Believe me, this will be hit and miss for many days to come, weeks, or even months. 


I have been tracking it daily, and at that specific time, I was F5ing the page, I saw that orange button turn dark green instantly before I even saw any other updates from anywhere else. There's no way, I should have been able to preorder one had it not been for that error. For whatever reason, I was not being given the option to select shipping at all, that page just didn't load no matter what I did in two different browsers.
 
See, that's not what pisses me off, if I just flat out missed it due to times or I was too late to the party, then FINE, but this was not the case, I don't buy it. Then I come to the forum to find out if it was just a fluke with the error, then some people are saying they got it, and even more shockingly, other people are reporting the exact same error that I saw.
 
So my question is, is EVGA just gonna shrug their shoulders at this and ignore the little man, the company who's notorious for great support? If this were someone like JayzTwoCents (let's say he didn't get review copies) would he get an explanation at least? What you see is what you get?
 
If EVGA does not support the little man, the people who all ran into this error with at least an explanation of some sort, then I'll stop supporting them from here on out as far as GPU's go. I've been buying EVGA cards since 500 series, countless recommendations to a lot of people over the years, countless times putting EVGA cards into a lot of peoples builds, but no more.
 
To those that did get one, just because you got one, doesn't mean you should gloss over this as well, be weary, 'cause one day, this could be you and this is the type of "support" you'll get.

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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 10:06:24 (permalink)
What exactly is EVGA supposed to do?  Ordering a 1080 period is all about luck and nothing more.  Supply is so scarce no thanks to the horrible efficiency of the TSMC in Taiwan combined with not so nice weather in the Pacific region, there just aren't enough 1080 cards being produced.  It's really not the fault of EVGA.  Those who were lucky enough to grab one before they sold out were just plain lucky.  With several hundred (or more) people logged into the website when the pre-orders went live, it was a matter of who could click fast enough.  Most people were getting script errors because the stock had probably ran out before the checkout to cart could be completed.  This has happened not only with EVGA, but with the Amazon and Newegg websites as well.  I remember fighting this same exact battle last year when the GTX980Ti SC+ cards showed up in stock on EVGA's website.  The checkout process was glitchy I admit, but I managed to snag two cards before they sold out.  This time around, it was a different issue regarding the checkout script itself.  I was able to figure it out quickly and still probably had some luck involved with just that issue alone, but was able to snag a GTX1080 FTW Hybrid card for pre-order.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Hybrid? 2016/08/09 10:12:29 (permalink)
While the hybrids continue to go out of stock, I will be waiting for information about the 1080 Ti (if it will end up being a thing). If they feel no need for it, I will end up just taking a Titan XP instead. Good performance on a 1440p 144hz monitor for either, the Titan saving you for a long time from having to upgrade before you get the Titan Fever and upgrade to that generation titan...
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