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Have heard they don't have the same power etc capabilities as say the Zotac or Asus or even FE cards? I've been trying to hold out for a FE, but Newegg (not that I'm trying to buy right this second) has had a $1709 standard Gigabyte Gaming series card in stock for about 10 minutes now vs the usual 1 minute max. I've been trying to hold out for a 1599 model like the TUF or FE since I"m just going to put a block on it anyway. I don't do much serious overclocking anyway, but I do remember when the first reviews came out of Asus vs FE even for example that the FE would get a far better VRAM clock and still beat out the Strix card because of it for example. edit: The card was the OC version actually, so $110 extra for 15Mhz clock lol, but apparently a 4 year warranty if you register on their website? Now I'm thinking that might make it worth it?
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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☄ Helpfulby flyinion 2023/01/06 17:43:47
I've been running a Gigabyte Gaming OC 4080 since launch since I couldn't get a 4090. I just ordered the Gigabyte 4090 version. It's pretty solid, no coil wine, and runs cool. No comment on pricing. FWIW, the power limits in the BIOS offer some gains, but the main limiting factor appears to be voltage limits. Unless you're willing to mod a high power limit board for higher voltages, the OC performance gains are deminishing returns. I wanted the MSI Supreme X for the looks and the VRMs, but reviews showed it ran slightly warmer than Gigabyte and Asus. If you noticed, these AIB designs have a larger open backplate for pass through cooling. I'm more concerned with GPU boost during normal use than bench scores. Gone are the days of Kingpin using software to adjust voltages.
IMO, unless you're willing to mod your board, asthetics, cooling, 450-600w BIOS, software, and warranty should be weighed. I would be happy with a Zotac, Only reason I would go with the FE is card size, but it runs a little warmer. Right now, all new higher end boards are better than my 309ti FTW3 that dumps 440-500w into my room. I wouldn't waste my money on AIB water-cooled or >$1700 range boards. Forget about the Asus Strix that's $2K. Sadly, when tax and shipping are factored, plus retailer markup, it's +$100. Only new board worth paying those prices would be a full die 4090ti/Titan just because...
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/06 17:28:39
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Thanks everyone, definitely going to keep the Gigabyte stuff in mind now then especially with that 4 year warranty. I don't think that was showing when I first looked back in September.
Looks like EK (and probably others) have blocks for them as well now so that's good. FE was also high on my list because I knew it and the Asus were going to get blocks first. Don't know that I'll actually end up with EK, my WC stuff is all alphacool and my CPU block is Aquacomputer but I'm not tied to anything. Just had heard EK was overpriced etc now and I was buying from modmymods who didn't have EK stuff anyway.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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As long as it doesn't have problems, think you'll be fine with any 4090 coming from a 2080. The uplift is going to be huge. I had the pg279Q when I wanted surround. Was an awesome display except went through 2 returns from Amazon to get a good unit. They didn't want to send the 2nd RMA initially. Newegg has been getting big daily drops this week. Good luck.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/06 17:47:03
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I also just realized most of the boards at least have 3yr warranty, for some reason I was thinking it was only 1-2 especially for FE cards. Gigabyte giving 4 years though is going to put them solidly on my radar again now after this discussion. At first I had also been thinking of the Asus cards just because I already have armoury crate installed to handle mobo lighting and stuff attached to it like fans. Then I remembered if I'm replacing the cooler with a block, then armoury crate, gigabyte's lighting, etc. won't matter since none of them would control that anyway I believe. That's just a guess though since the only card I've had with a block is my 2080 Super that was an EVGA hydrocopper SKU.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/06 17:50:39
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As long as it doesn't have problems, think you'll be fine with any 4090 coming from a 2080. The uplift is going to be huge. I had the pg279Q when I wanted surround. Was an awesome display except went through 2 returns from Amazon to get a good unit. They didn't want to send the 2nd RMA initially. Newegg has been getting big daily drops this week. Good luck.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/06 19:54:19
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I stay away from Gigabyte video cards since I had a not so great experience with their QA. I had two 980 Tis, one of which was a Gigabyte that I had to RMA due to extremely bad coil whine. The RMA came back without any thermal paste on the GPU die (and IIRC, also had very bad coil whine once I pasted it), which required me to RMA again. Something that basic being missed... makes me not trust them as a company. EDIT - I used this tracker to snag a 4090 FE from Best Buy during the drops the week of Christmas. Keep the video to the forefront, as tabbing back to it may require the chat to catch up (and take too long) - https://youtu.be/Giub2JmpXhA
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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I used the nowinstock and youtube tracker running in the background. Had logged in pages for BB and Egg waiting with my wishlists. BB shows local store drops for 4090 and ship to store for 4080 so it's hard for my location. I prefer Asus/MSI over Gigabyte in rep/QC. Warranty is a crapshoot since few can compare to EVGA's customer support.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/07 05:04:51
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i have had a msi 3090ti suprim in rma before Christmas still says in repair hard to beat evga i would've already had a card back 
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/07 05:59:08
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From a company point of view Gigabyte would have a bad reputation if their video cards were low quality.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/07 08:52:02
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I watch Northridge Fix, a repair shop that specializes in SMD repair. He had a few Gigabyte 3090s in his shop for repair. The heatsinks are so heavy, it cracked the PCB right at the rear of the PCIe interface and Gigabyte declined the warranty. Add that with some of their PSUs shorting underload, I personally wouldn't trust them.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 10:06:49
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So, I caved and signed up for Telegram and added that nowinstock channel to it. The Gigabyte card just went in stock again and I scored one I think  Woohoo! Happy late Christmas/early birthday to me.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 10:37:27
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Grats, which model did you get?
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 10:42:14
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Grats, which model did you get?
The $1699 (1709 from Newegg directly) Gaming OC model. Apparently there's a non-OC version, but I've never seen it on anyone's website in or out of stock. Now I just have to see who has blocks for it. I know EK does, but hoping for more options since EK is apparently way overpriced. So I guess I won't be in a rush to install it though I'll probably connect it up long enough to verify it's not DOA when it first gets here.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 12:10:28
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Ok so after weeks of trying I finally snagged a Gigabyte 4090 OC using NowInStock at MSRP from NewEgg. It will be here tomorrow.
Question = Will Precision X1 handle the three fans on the Gigabyte card or will I need a different program like Afterbuner? I just as soon stick with Precision if I can.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 12:25:43
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I doubt precision will control the fans, but AB works.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 14:46:11
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i'm just using ab on the fe card without adjusting anything it keeps card around 41c no overclocking yet though
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 15:48:20
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Looks like I'm going with an EK block for the card. The only other one really out is Phanteks, which at first I was interested in because it "might" more match the aesthetics of my Phanteks case, but saw a few reviews of issues with them and being picky about screw order etc. It's only a few $$ cheaper than the EK block as well, and apparently the EK one is pretty good even though overpriced. I would do Optimus but they only have FE and Asus blocks right now.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 16:01:39
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I doubt precision will control the fans, but AB works.
Ok thanks much I will just plan on installing Afterburner first thing after putting card in.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 16:09:13
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I am very happy with the performance and finish of the EK blocks, this is my third V2 Block , I am going to put on a 4090 SUPRIM LIQUID X, The Delta is Equal to the OPTIMUS blocks, ya they increased the price but its been flawless for me.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/09 16:17:45
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kraade
I doubt precision will control the fans, but AB works.
Ok thanks much I will just plan on installing Afterburner first thing after putting card in.
Hit the settings wheel and make you a custom curve, these 4090s seem to be set real low and there is room for slightly higher fans speeds and keeping it cool helps the performance, seems like there was an emphasis on quiet mode on all these cards.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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kraade
I doubt precision will control the fans, but AB works.
Ok thanks much I will just plan on installing Afterburner first thing after putting card in.
Hit the settings wheel and make you a custom curve, these 4090s seem to be set real low and there is room for slightly higher fans speeds and keeping it cool helps the performance, seems like there was an emphasis on quiet mode on all these cards.
Ok thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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I am very happy with the performance and finish of the EK blocks, this is my third V2 Block , I am going to put on a 4090 SUPRIM LIQUID X, The Delta is Equal to the OPTIMUS blocks, ya they increased the price but its been flawless for me.
Thanks, I did order one, we'll see if it actually ships though. Had to order direct, Performance PC's was just "out of stock". EK's site says expected in stock tomorrow, but it goes on backorder if not, but it let me order for now. If it ships, it will be middle of next week before I get it. I could have the Phanteks block in a couple days though. Not sure about that one. One reviewer of the Asus version had missing standoffs that didn't come with it and so like 3 of the 8-10 backplate screws had nothing to thread into. Not sure I want to risk that. Might be better to run it on air for a few weeks if I have to.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/10 01:59:49
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You guys with the Gigabyte 4090 OC cards, did you do any bios flashing? I see there is one listed for it currently. Well one for silent and one for OC. Also did you use the Gigabyte Utlility for anything?
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/10 02:24:56
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You guys with the Gigabyte 4090 OC cards, did you do any bios flashing?
No.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
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You guys with the Gigabyte 4090 OC cards, did you do any bios flashing? I see there is one listed for it currently. Well one for silent and one for OC. Also did you use the Gigabyte Utlility for anything?
Just installed my 4090 and tried the bios flash utility. Error not valid model or something. GPUZ says it has the 600w on the default OC Bios setting so left it alone for now. Running some simple renders, but not so much difference between 4080 & 4090. I'll run PR later. If you looked at the 4080 and 4090, you couldn't tell them apart unless you looked at the small sticker at the bottom of the PCB. I'm using the Gigabyte control to disable RGB, custom fan curve, and simple clock/mem/power limits. There's a GPU Voltage (%) with a LOCK/UNLOCK. You can modify it when unlocked, but doubt it does anything. Will need some time to play around. I use Fan Control for everything else. What's sad is we're talking about other AIB cards in an EVGA 4000 Series forum. 
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/10 03:23:20
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d.burnette
You guys with the Gigabyte 4090 OC cards, did you do any bios flashing? I see there is one listed for it currently. Well one for silent and one for OC. Also did you use the Gigabyte Utlility for anything?
Just installed my 4090 and tried the bios flash utility. Error not valid model or something. GPUZ says it has the 600w on the default OC Bios setting so left it alone for now. Running some simple renders, but not so much difference between 4080 & 4090. I'll run PR later. If you looked at the 4080 and 4090, you couldn't tell them apart unless you looked at the small sticker at the bottom of the PCB.
I'm using the Gigabyte control to disable RGB, custom fan curve, and simple clock/mem/power limits. There's a GPU Voltage (%) with a LOCK/UNLOCK. You can modify it when unlocked, but doubt it does anything. Will need some time to play around. I use Fan Control for everything else.
What's sad is we're talking about other AIB cards in an EVGA 4000 Series forum.
Ok thanks much for the great feedback. I wil not worry with bios flash, and will likely use the utility to disable rgb as well and set my fans. That is all I used Precision X1 for so I may not even need to use Afterburner after all. Card is supposed to be here by 9:00 pm today, hopefully sooner rather than later. Fully agree, very sad we are not talking about an EVGA 4090. EVGA was all I ever owned beginning with the 200 series. I sure hope they reconsider their stance on it on next generation of GPU.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/10 05:01:27
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You guys with the Gigabyte 4090 OC cards, did you do any bios flashing? I see there is one listed for it currently. Well one for silent and one for OC. Also did you use the Gigabyte Utlility for anything?
I have the lower end Gigabyte Windforce and have it flashed to the AORUS model. As for the Gigabyte software I had to use it to change the RGB then I uninstalled the software because it’s garbage lol.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good?
2023/01/10 16:25:38
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Anyone figure out how to move bios switch from silent to OC?
Appears it should move to the left but also appears to have a flat head screw slot as well, does it turn or does it slide to left? Thought I would move it to OC before installing. I gues I can always move it after installatioin.
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