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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/10 16:48:32 (permalink)
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Anyone figure out how to move bios switch from silent to OC?
Appears it should move to the left but also appears to have a flat head screw slot as well, does it turn or does it slide to left? Thought I would move it to OC before installing. I gues I can always move it after installatioin.



Both my cards came in the OC position by default.  It's just a slider. 

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/10 17:00:05 (permalink)
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Anyone figure out how to move bios switch from silent to OC?
Appears it should move to the left but also appears to have a flat head screw slot as well, does it turn or does it slide to left? Thought I would move it to OC before installing. I gues I can always move it after installatioin.



Both my cards came in the OC position by default.  It's just a slider. 


Mine "appears" to be in silent position - offset to the right - can't seem to move it to the left. It is the white round thing recessed in the hole correct? Have to get something down in there to move it?

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/10 17:42:05 (permalink)
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Mine "appears" to be in silent position - offset to the right - can't seem to move it to the left. It is the white round thing recessed in the hole correct? Have to get something down in there to move it?



EDIT DUE TO TOTAL CONFUSION ON MY BEHALF:
Looking directly down on the backplate, it is a small white single, two-position dipswitch on the PCB.  The switch is raised.
 
It's on the top of the PCB card facing you.  It's right under the silk screen label for switch position and the switch is dark gray, almost black.  It's a standard raised mini slider.  I can't explain why I was thinking of a different PCB when responding to this.
 
See the Gigabyte pic for Dual Bios on their product page.
https://www.gigabyte.com/...N4090GAMING-OC-24GD#kf
 
post edited by 808sting - 2023/01/10 21:19:29

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/10 17:52:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Sajin 2023/01/28 12:25:23
if its a dipswitch , you might try a toothpick to move it
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/10 18:04:12 (permalink)
EDIT DUE TO CONFUSION:
It's raised so you can move it with your finger unless the switch component was changed.  I received my 4090 Gaming OC on Monday for Newegg.
 
It's on the top of the PCB card facing you.  It's right under the silk screen label for switch position and the switch is dark gray, almost black.  It's a standard raised mini slider.  I can't explain why I was thinking of a different PCB when responding to this except possibly age.
 
See the Gigabyte pic for Dual Bios on their product page.
https://www.gigabyte.com/...N4090GAMING-OC-24GD#kf
post edited by 808sting - 2023/01/10 21:18:04

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 00:19:10 (permalink)
Thanks much for the feedback but reckon I must be a dunce. I can not find any raised dark switch below the silkscreen bios lettering. I did not see a pic at the link you posted ? At least could not find one.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 00:45:09 (permalink)
I think at this point I can safely say mine does not have a protruding switch to switch between bios.
Can't explain it - obviously it is an OC as the silkscreen bios printing is on it showing the two positions.
I did find a pic of it over on Tech Powerup site.
At this point I am just going to hope mine also by default is in the OC position.
 
post edited by d.burnette - 2023/01/11 00:46:18

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 00:57:12 (permalink)
UPDATE  - OK I found it!! Holy crap that is a tiny switch! My eyes are not the greatest and I apparently was just looking over it this whole time. Yes I am a dunce!
 
Thank you so much for all the help, I really appreciate it! You at least got me to narrow down where I was looking for it!

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 04:05:30 (permalink)
 Darn you EVGA it really saddens me that later today I will be pulling my awesome EVGA 3090 out of this gorgeous EVGA DG87 Case and putting a Gigabyte in. That just seems wrong. On a positive note it is starting to look like I will be doing a new build sooner than I thought, so likely will be in the market for a new Dark motherboard before long. I will still be loyal to EVGA for motherboards and power supplies, hoping that maybe they will have a change of heart on GPU's with the next generation that comes down the pike.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 11:59:09 (permalink)
Interestingly Afterburner only shows 2 fans on my Gigabyte 4090 OC.
Gigabyte Control Center shows all 3. Probably going to be hard to wrap my arms around using it though. Guess I will need to though with the guy getting out of doing Afterburner.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 16:35:35 (permalink)
I seem to be struggling getting the three fans controlled properly in the Gigabyte Control Center. I set them to a fixed position but the rpm shows they are fluctuating between 0 and about 1500 rpm constantly - all three.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/11 17:03:21 (permalink)
try AB with the link on
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/12 01:09:39 (permalink)
It seems to have settled down now, not sure what was going on. I may have had both Afterburner and GC runnnig at the same time when it occurred. Need to try and stay away from Afterbuner and get more accustomed to using GC since Afterburner no longer supported by the Dev, GC will accomplish what I need it is just more rudimentory to use.
 
Thanks.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/12 01:12:29 (permalink)
In other news ran a Time Spy benchmark run yesterday, she is boosting to 2805 MHz with warmest temp during the run of 58c. 
I will take it!
I will be using it with DCS in VR today (my main game) hoping for a decent improvement in performance.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/16 16:58:45 (permalink)
Its not that Gigabyte products are bad, well some of them are, but their Warranty/RMA service is awful in some parts of the world.  Gigabyte North America seems to have issues getting things fixed or replaced properly, damages customers products sent in for RMA service and also loses customers' products sent in for RMA service.
 
Personally, I had five RMAs for Gigabyte products between my CP and family members PCs over a several year period.  Out of those five RMAs, none of them resulted me in receiving a fully functioning replacement product the first time.  One time they didn't even open the box.  They just slapped a new shipping label on the box and sent it back to me without opening it.  I followed their instructions on the RMA number was on the box and label. 
 
Another time, I sent in a motherboard for RMA.  I was building a new PC and while waiting for parts to arrive, the 30 day return period form the retailer passed.  After receiving my motherboard, Gigabyte said it had a bad BIOS and they say that they were going to either reflash the BIOS or replace the BIOS chip.  Three weeks alter, I received an email form Gigabyte's RMA service that my motherboard was damaged and my warranty was void.  I email them back and attached the photos I took of the motherboard for shipping insurance purposes before I sent it out.  A manager at their RMA department responded and called me a liar and said I must have photoshopepd the photos because their RAM techs are the best in the industry and never damage customers products.
 
One of my friends sent his graphics card in for RMA repair/replacement.  It came back form the RMA with a deep scratch in the plastic shroud near the fans that wasn't there when he sent it in.  He received a similar reply about how it couldn't be the RMA service employees.
 
There are reports online and posts on Reddit about people sending in graphics cards and motherboard to Gigabyte with approved RMAs and Gigabyte lost their cards and motherboards.  Then they got hit with ransomware and they lost even more customers' graphics cards, motherboards, and other items sent in for RMA.  Some of it happened during the pandemic graphics card shortage.
 
I stopped buying Gigabyte's products because I consider their warranty to be 100% worthless.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/19 20:19:29 (permalink)
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No issues with mine. Got a big thread on it too… https://forums.evga.com/E...aming-OC-m3582274.aspx

I actually came back here to see what card you got, because you seemed really happy with it and I was kind of hoping it was the Gigabyte. I just got the Gigabyte version as well. I bought the Gigabyte version because I haven’t heard many complaints about coil whine. Matter fact, most people are saying the Gigabyte doesn’t have coil whine. Reviews of the other manufacturer’s cards have a lot of people complaining of coil whine. I don’t overclock, so don’t care about the overclocking potential.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/19 20:22:09 (permalink)
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No issues with mine. Got a big thread on it too… https://forums.evga.com/E...aming-OC-m3582274.aspx

I actually came back here to see what card you got, because you seemed really happy with it and I was kind of hoping it was the Gigabyte. I just got the Gigabyte version as well. I bought the Gigabyte version because I haven’t heard many complaints about coil whine. Matter fact, most people are saying the Gigabyte doesn’t have coil whine. Reviews of the other manufacturer’s cards have a lot of people complaining of coil whine. I don’t overclock, so don’t care about the overclocking potential.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/19 20:47:29 (permalink)
I haven't noticed any coil whine on mine either (and I would notice stuff like that).  Pretty happy with it so far for sure.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/28 08:30:00 (permalink)
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I haven't noticed any coil whine on mine either (and I would notice stuff like that).  Pretty happy with it so far for sure.


Ditto.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/01/29 20:49:09 (permalink)
I had some time to install mine and overall it’s a decent card. From a technical standpoint it is a very good card. Temps are mostly right around 60c max. I have absolutely no coil whine. Performance is just amazing at 4k. I’ve been playing Call of Duty MW2 and it locks to 141 FPS, even with no DLSS.

As for Gigabyte… The card is not a quality card, especially for 1,700 dollars. The fan shroud is cheap plastic looking. The logos look like I could rub the paint off with my thumb. The backplate looks cheap. The card is barely passable for looks. The Gigabyte software is the biggest piece of garbage that I’ve ever installed. Looking in Windows reliability monitor, the app and its service crashes every minute or so. Before I uninstalled it, it actually caused my computer to freeze and crash. My fan LEDs worked before I installed the software and now I can’t get them to turn back on. I’m sure this is firmware or software related. I don’t ever use the LEDs anyway.

If performance and the lack of coil whine were not present, this card would be a 1,700 dollar piece of crap.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/05 02:04:39 (permalink)
I noticed that if I switch my card to silent bios that my time spy score goes up and my fans run more consistently.  I think they reversed the bios.  I thought about flashing to the latest one and putting the right version on the right side but I've read that the stock bios is the best one.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/08 18:29:38 (permalink)
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I noticed that if I switch my card to silent bios that my time spy score goes up and my fans run more consistently.  I think they reversed the bios.  I thought about flashing to the latest one and putting the right version on the right side but I've read that the stock bios is the best one.


I'll have to try this. It does sound about right for the quality from Gigabyte though. The cards are good, but everything else sucks. I had to uninstall their control center application because it was causing a lot of issues and crashing once every minute or so. I then installed their RGB Fusion application and it caused BSOD. I checked the BSOD and the application causing the crash was RGB Fusion. Gigabyte is garbage, but their 4090 performs really well.
 
I have that same MSI Z790 Ace motherboard for my Intel system, isn't it a great motherboard? Mine is rock solid and I haven't even updated the bios yet.
post edited by chrisdglong - 2023/02/08 18:30:49
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/08 22:41:10 (permalink)
I haven't even messed with the BIOS switch on my card.  I had read that both had the same power limits and the only difference was the fan profile.  Since I pulled the stock cooler off anyway and put a waterblock on it, I figured there was no reason to bother with it.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/09 09:32:30 (permalink)
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I noticed that if I switch my card to silent bios that my time spy score goes up and my fans run more consistently.  I think they reversed the bios.  I thought about flashing to the latest one and putting the right version on the right side but I've read that the stock bios is the best one.


I'll have to try this. It does sound about right for the quality from Gigabyte though. The cards are good, but everything else sucks. I had to uninstall their control center application because it was causing a lot of issues and crashing once every minute or so. I then installed their RGB Fusion application and it caused BSOD. I checked the BSOD and the application causing the crash was RGB Fusion. Gigabyte is garbage, but their 4090 performs really well.
 
I have that same MSI Z790 Ace motherboard for my Intel system, isn't it a great motherboard? Mine is rock solid and I haven't even updated the bios yet.

MSI software is no picnic either. Why can't we just get an RGB software without the suite of other things that drag down the system or make it unstable, lol
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/09 16:40:13 (permalink)
Only thing the Gigabyte software is good for is turning off the RGB and setting basic clock functions.  The custom fan control is broken.  Both quiet and OC bios options has the fan at no spin until a min temp is hit, regardless of custom fan curves.  I'm using Fan Control for everything.  I like the card performance but the software is really bad.
 
I would pay for extended PX1 support for 3rd party AIB cards.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/10 14:55:42 (permalink)
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Only thing the Gigabyte software is good for is turning off the RGB and setting basic clock functions.  The custom fan control is broken.  Both quiet and OC bios options has the fan at no spin until a min temp is hit, regardless of custom fan curves.  I'm using Fan Control for everything.  I like the card performance but the software is really bad.
 
I would pay for extended PX1 support for 3rd party AIB cards.


Me Too
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/11 13:41:37 (permalink)
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I noticed that if I switch my card to silent bios that my time spy score goes up and my fans run more consistently.  I think they reversed the bios.  I thought about flashing to the latest one and putting the right version on the right side but I've read that the stock bios is the best one.


I'll have to try this. It does sound about right for the quality from Gigabyte though. The cards are good, but everything else sucks. I had to uninstall their control center application because it was causing a lot of issues and crashing once every minute or so. I then installed their RGB Fusion application and it caused BSOD. I checked the BSOD and the application causing the crash was RGB Fusion. Gigabyte is garbage, but their 4090 performs really well.
 
I have that same MSI Z790 Ace motherboard for my Intel system, isn't it a great motherboard? Mine is rock solid and I haven't even updated the bios yet.

MSI software is no picnic either. Why can't we just get an RGB software without the suite of other things that drag down the system or make it unstable, lol

You can with Gigabyte, but it is just as bad.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/11 13:43:50 (permalink)
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I haven't even messed with the BIOS switch on my card.  I had read that both had the same power limits and the only difference was the fan profile.  Since I pulled the stock cooler off anyway and put a waterblock on it, I figured there was no reason to bother with it.


I switched it to the quiet mode and lost about 1 thousand points in 3D Mark Time Spy. I only tested it to make sure mine wasn't flipped. It does affect performance.
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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/12 15:58:03 (permalink)
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I noticed that if I switch my card to silent bios that my time spy score goes up and my fans run more consistently.  I think they reversed the bios.  I thought about flashing to the latest one and putting the right version on the right side but I've read that the stock bios is the best one.


I'll have to try this. It does sound about right for the quality from Gigabyte though. The cards are good, but everything else sucks. I had to uninstall their control center application because it was causing a lot of issues and crashing once every minute or so. I then installed their RGB Fusion application and it caused BSOD. I checked the BSOD and the application causing the crash was RGB Fusion. Gigabyte is garbage, but their 4090 performs really well.
 
I have that same MSI Z790 Ace motherboard for my Intel system, isn't it a great motherboard? Mine is rock solid and I haven't even updated the bios yet.


I actually like this motherboard but I wish that Asus was writing their apps.  Same goes for Gigabyte, love the card but hate the software.  MSI does stay on top of firmware updates.  I'm really hoping to get at least 4 years out of this setup.

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Re: Are the Gigabyte cards really not good? 2023/02/15 19:12:05 (permalink)
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I noticed that if I switch my card to silent bios that my time spy score goes up and my fans run more consistently.  I think they reversed the bios.  I thought about flashing to the latest one and putting the right version on the right side but I've read that the stock bios is the best one.


I'll have to try this. It does sound about right for the quality from Gigabyte though. The cards are good, but everything else sucks. I had to uninstall their control center application because it was causing a lot of issues and crashing once every minute or so. I then installed their RGB Fusion application and it caused BSOD. I checked the BSOD and the application causing the crash was RGB Fusion. Gigabyte is garbage, but their 4090 performs really well.
 
I have that same MSI Z790 Ace motherboard for my Intel system, isn't it a great motherboard? Mine is rock solid and I haven't even updated the bios yet.


I actually like this motherboard but I wish that Asus was writing their apps.  Same goes for Gigabyte, love the card but hate the software.  MSI does stay on top of firmware updates.  I'm really hoping to get at least 4 years out of this setup.


Yeah, their software is pretty bad. I only use it to turn off the RGB lights though. I might open it if I want to turn them back on, but probably not. I use the bios for everything else and their bios isn't that bad at all for me. You mentioned Gigabyte, I can't even install their software without it causing issues, including BSOD.
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