Metroman
@CraptacularOne: I am currently undecided if I should get the Z370 FTW or the Hero. Is there a special reason why you chosed the Hero over the FTW? Thanks.
 

Well for starters when I purchased this motherboard there were no EVGA Z370 boards available at all as EVGA was pretty late to the party in shipping a Z370 motherboard. Having said that: Would I still purchase this Hero over the FTW if I had to decide right now? I would still probably get the Hero over the FTW. The ASUS board has more features built in that I want. The Hero has built in WiFi and Bluetooth, a better audio chip, more customization options in aesthetics with it's RGB and uses a little higher quality VRM than the FTW does. 
 
That doesn't mean the EVGA board is "bad" by any measure as I'm sure it's a fine board and I've owned several EVGA boards over the years and they have all treated me great. But this time ASUS had the options I wanted and valued more. 

Metroman

CraptacularOne
The ASUS board has more features built in that I want. The Hero has built in WiFi and Bluetooth, a better audio chip, more customization options in aesthetics with it's RGB and uses a little higher quality VRM than the FTW does. 

I see. Well, I don't care about RGB, Wifi or BT at all but about power consumption and stable oc for CPU and RAM. HQ VRM is important but I think I can trust EVGA on that, besides I don't want to oc extreme. Sound is also rather important to me and the Hero has the SupremeFX S1220 while the FTW has the standard ALC1220, is there really a difference one can hear?
 
Currently, the Hero is about 280€ here, while the FTW is 220€. So far I can't see why to spend so much more...

Audio is a somewhat important feature on my motherboards as I use a higher end Logitech Z-5500 speaker setup with my PC. While it's not a huge difference there is indeed a difference in quality. But your mileage may vary depending on your speaker setup. 
 
As I said I'm sure the EVGA board will do what you want and perform very well. They do indeed make quality hardware and they stand by their products which is why I still buy their gear. Cheaper is good in this market with prices soaring for video cards and RAM so saveing a few bucks where you can and still getting quality hardware definitely has its merits. 

CraptacularOne
Audio is a somewhat important feature on my motherboards as I use a higher end Logitech Z-5500 speaker setup with my PC. While it's not a huge difference there is indeed a difference in quality. But your mileage may vary depending on your speaker setup. 

I have set up several Sonos Play-1 in the house which are connected to a Synology NAS system, controlled by an app on my handy or the Sonos software on my computer. So for music around there is no need for a great sound chip but for games it would be nice to have, I am using head phones for games. I am on a Realtek ALC892 right now and had recently tested the ALC1220 -- the difference is amazing, so much better.
 

CraptacularOne
As I said I'm sure the EVGA board will do what you want and perform very well. They do indeed make quality hardware and they stand by their products which is why I still buy their gear. Cheaper is good in this market with prices soaring for video cards and RAM so saveing a few bucks where you can and still getting quality hardware definitely has its merits. 

That's what I am hearing about EVGA, sounds good. I am still on a GTX970 and refuse to upgrade as long as the prices are insane. I already have DDR4, which is Trident Z 3200 16G (4x4) CL16-18-18-38 (). It's not listed for EVGA Z370 compliance in the G.Skill QVL list but hopefully it will run with 3200MHz, getting it to 3600MHz would be even better.

Well on a D3 z370p gigabyte, I was getting 4.995 ghz ~ around 65 70 on wow gaming long usage with a 240 corsair clc , 1,38v. It helps to have the cpu Over a "cold" ftw3 hybrid throwing most of the heat out. Gotta mention that the psu isnt even at 60% use.

I did set it back to stock after around 2-3 weeks since the gtx is running eth underclocked 24/7 while im not gaming. Dont want to burn this low end mobo.

Im getting some conductonaut next week aswell as the z370 classified k. I'll start doing delid service to get back some of the cost.. and try 5.1 ghz +

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Sean1976

CraptacularOne

Sean1976
Nope my 8600k runs 17-19c at full load across all cores@5Ghz on air, just uploaded a video of it, temp reading is coming off core temp so it’s very accurate😀 below is firestrike video at 5ghz it idles little hot but watch when she loads up to 92% and then tell me my 8600k doesn’t run at 17C...
https://www.dropbox.com/s...022%2005%20PM.mov?dl=0

It doesn't and If you really think a CPU gets cooler while being run at load on a $30 air cooler than it does while idle you are so completely clueless in how a PC works that you are beyond all help. 

What you are seeing on your *ahem* "read out display" is the result of bad/faulty software. 

Its not the software......... Core Temp was just updated for Coffee Lake CPU's-Version 1.11 - 4th November, 2017 -New: Support for Intel Coffee Lake, Denverton, Gemini Lake. It’s simply the way I have my fans set up.
This video https://www.dropbox.com/s...022%2005%20PM.mov?dl=0 does not lie. 100% usage @17C-19C it's right there for several seconds during the combined test, 
My memory is also faster than your 3200mhz....... what a waste putting such slow memory on that board. At least get memory of that is closer to the limit of the board....
You sound jealous if anything, a $30 Evo is way better than a lot of the "all in one" water coolers, take your tears elsewhere

LOL  like I said you are completely and utterly clueless junior. Clearly you are too incompetent to understand what you are claiming is happening is simply not possible with a mediocre $30 cooler. If you can reach 19C full load at 5Ghz on a $30 cooler why don't you enlighten us and the rest of the PC enthusiast world on what we are missing? You think you know something that the ENTIRE PC enthusiast, review houses and overclocking professionals don't know? Please kid, don't make me laugh. The mere fact that you even think you are running 19C at full load and it's not some kind of software/monitoring bug tells me all I need to know about your level of understanding of how PCs and thermodynamics work. 
 
Also, LOL @ calling 3200Mhz memory "slow" in comparison to 3600Mhz. The performance difference between 3200Mhz and 3600Mhz memory in virtually all PC tasks is negligible at best.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/g_skill_tridentz_rgb_ddr4_memory_review,11.html
 
Please go educate yourself, it's almost cringeworthy reading your nonsense. 

It's pretty obvious that sean1976 has either a bad thermal sensor, a bad connection to his read out, or a combination of the two.  The fact that he so vehemently believes these numbers to be true is just too funny though.
 
Still calling a Hyper 212 EVO "mediocre" is ignorant at best, there are good reasons why it's still around after 7+ years on the market.  When running a decent pair of fans on the EVO, it can run lower temps than a Cooler Master H100 all-in-one until you reach high overclocks.  I used to run my i7-3930K @ 4.0GHz with my EVO & got lower temps than with the H100 by 2-4C when converting 1080i raw video into h.264 video with Adobe Premier Pro.  But bumping up to 4.2GHz the numbers reverse with the H100 besting the EVO by 4-7C.  BTW, I was using the same two NZXT high airflow fans (80-90CFM) on both the H100 & EVO.
 
When I get my Z370 /8700K build finished, I hope to use my 212 EVO to cool the CPU & hit 5GHz doing so while using a single fan.... no, not the fan that comes with the cooler, but rather a Noctua nf-a12 high-static pressure 120mm fan, but if necessary I can use 2 of those.