Can someone that has a dmm can tell me what there GPU voltage reads after setting 1.10000v in the classified tool loadline 1 and reboot.. what do you read idle and load.

My card is seriously under volting... but no expert maybe normal.

Edit:

Setting 1 10000v and loadline 10 = 1.081v idle and 1.035v load.

Same and loadline 1 = 1.88v idle and 1.071 under load.

FROSTYBE3R
I found the only sure way to set it is by using precision X1 because afterburner is just weird and doesn't register classified tool, also i can't even find a set voltage that works for all benchmarks and games lol so I'm just giving up and using stock

Ok then how are you overclocking? Just punching in a number into px1 and hit apply?

FROSTYBE3R
I found the only sure way to set it is by using precision X1 because afterburner is just weird and doesn't register classified tool, also i can't even find a set voltage that works for all benchmarks and games lol so I'm just giving up and using stock

Ya gota get a dmm out and hook it to the probe.dont look at what ab is setting cause ab will only report in the osd what you have set your curve at if you locked that voltage. So I set a curve at 1.093v it's what ab will report. It's not showing you actually GPU voltage.

So if you set it with the classified tool and rebooted it will be what its using.

 
Let's try to stay on topic without drifting away from the main points that need to be discussed. Also, let's not make it where it seems someone is talking to themselves.

FROSTYBE3R
Nah but I'll just YOLO with my fe rig lol @bcavnaugh https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18969795

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/18969795/fs/19156971
Core clock 2,115 MHz -v- 2,040 MHz
Memory bus clock 1,968 MHz -v- 2,081 MHz
Maximum turbo core clock 5,304 MHz -v- 5,032 MHz
Driver version 419.67 -v- 425.31

I ran into LLC bugging earlier. Had to put a serious load and 1.095 NVVDD to get the KPE to snap out of it.  DMM was showing .995 -1.010 regardless of llc and NVVDD.
 
On my KPE I typically see an idle variance from NVVDD to DMM of ~ 20mv.

wwxww
So is this the "wall" people are talking about with this card? I'm trying to use the lowest voltage with highest clocks as I would with my Motherboard. This card seems to act different.
 
@AHowes How often and when do you find yourself rebooting?

I have found that a reboot is not required between tests as long as results are staying similar, if you run 3 or 4 tests in a row without any changes and scores are dropping each time then its time for a reboot before testing again. Also might seem goofy but i have also found that doing a disc cleanup after every 3 or 4 runs seems to keep more constant results even. I know sounds goofy but seems to be my experience with this.

Just the basic disk cleanup in windows is all i have been using, checking all boxes except downloads.

wwxww
So is this the "wall" people are talking about with this card? I'm trying to use the lowest voltage with highest clocks as I would with my Motherboard. This card seems to act different.
 
@AHowes How often and when do you find yourself rebooting?

I have not tried that yet just something I read late last night.

Point Is dont try to use the lowest voltage you can! It will drop your scores bigtime!

Run the same test with low voltage and again say 1.093v. Tell me what ya get. For me it was almost 1000 points. As I tried to mention before the core prob isint fully stable at low.voltage and its just not reporting the drop clocks or its erroring holding the speed down and your just not seeing it.

Too much voltage can do the same or cause a freeze.

Find the perfect voltage and loadline to keep the droop to a minimum to keep the voltage up and stable!

Max score I got in firestrike extreme was 18580 or something.. forgot my best score with the ftw3 card was 18666.. but older drivers.. so means nothing really. Kept hitting 18500ish all night long but still could go farther.. prob need to play more with voltage. I kept it at like 1.1875 and LL1 to keep the voltage up to 1.09v on load.

Nvidia dont even report me hitting the power limit till I'm over 2250. So no idea there.. its prob spiking it and it's just not enough for it to report. Ideally we want to be under the 360/400+ power limit or our scores will reduce.

I need to prob get my CPU over 5.2ghz to get higher scores.. tried late last night and tossed 4.2v at it but blue screened during cenebench.:/ my memory is prob maxing out the imc and I'll need to lower it to maybe get 5.3ghz or more. Should just try 3200mhz over 4266 it's at now.

FROSTYBE3R
4266MHz on a 9900K isn't exactly out of this world and you're probably further away from maxing the IMC than you think, try different timings/sub and voltage also perhaps change your LLC/input core voltage and uncore values, my 9900K would do 5.3GHz at 1.34V with 4400MHz ram CL17 bumped to 1.5V. What motherboard are you using? I'd suggest either Z390 Dark/Aorus Xtreme/Asus Apex, if you have to just direct die your cpu, I've noticed on my kingpins that pushing the voltage doesn't actually help much at all beyond maybe 10MHz.

I've got the asus extreme xi with 4x 8gb dimms. I'm thinking that was maybe the hold up using 4 sticks over 2.. though I've read from different sources it does and it does not matter.

What LLC you using? I'm at the suggested 8 and it drops from 3.6v to around 3.3v. That'd 3.6v at 5 2ghz.

My vccio is at 3.2500 but I feel it wants more.. less and I have problems with booting.

Yes direct die.. and another thing I'm thinking of what's holding me back maybe is the pin contact doing direct die. Not enough pressure to make solid pin contact.

AHowes

FROSTYBE3R
4266MHz on a 9900K isn't exactly out of this world and you're probably further away from maxing the IMC than you think, try different timings/sub and voltage also perhaps change your LLC/input core voltage and uncore values, my 9900K would do 5.3GHz at 1.34V with 4400MHz ram CL17 bumped to 1.5V. What motherboard are you using? I'd suggest either Z390 Dark/Aorus Xtreme/Asus Apex, if you have to just direct die your cpu, I've noticed on my kingpins that pushing the voltage doesn't actually help much at all beyond maybe 10MHz.

I've got the asus extreme xi with 4x 8gb dimms. I'm thinking that was maybe the hold up using 4 sticks over 2.. though I've read from different sources it does and it does not matter.

What LLC you using? I'm at the suggested 8 and it drops from 3.6v to around 3.3v. That'd 3.6v at 5 2ghz.

My vccio is at 3.2500 but I feel it wants more.. less and I have problems with booting.

Yes direct die.. and another thing I'm thinking of what's holding me back maybe is the pin contact doing direct die. Not enough pressure to make solid pin contact.

Of course two dimms vs four is easier on the IMC and allows for memory clocking & latency capabilities, on my 9900K I used the Aorus Xtreme and 4x 4000MHz(default) sticks of 8pack xtreem, load line was at turbo with vccio/system agent at 1.2v.

Also I can't manage to get my card at a stable amount of any amount of voltage and refuses to go over a max of 2205MHz, maybe I got a meh card? I do hope my second card tomorrow is better :)

HawkOculus

FROSTYBE3R

Of course two dimms vs four is easier on the IMC and allows for memory clocking & latency capabilities, on my 9900K I used the Aorus Xtreme and 4x 4000MHz(default) sticks of 8pack xtreem, load line was at turbo with vccio/system agent at 1.2v.

Also I can't manage to get my card at a stable amount of any amount of voltage and refuses to go over a max of 2205MHz, maybe I got a poop card?

Per TiN’s guide, 2200 MHz or so on stock cooling at ambient temperatures is a soft wall where instability will take place. Any more in terms of clock speed and you need colder temperatures. So no, it’s not bad, not even close.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7086869

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/86734

I'm gona go play.. I keep reading people saying 1.2v for vccio but never worked out for me. You using xmp for mem settings or manual? I do xmp and then just change the vccio voltage.. seemed like I had lower benches in cinebench with manual mem timings.

AHowes
I'm gona go play.. I keep reading people saying 1.2v for vccio but never worked out for me. You using xmp for mem settings or manual? I do xmp and then just change the vccio voltage.. seemed like I had lower benches in cinebench with manual mem timings.

If you need more than 1.2v Vcc sa/io to post > 4000mhz bdie or get stable into windows and ddr4 = 1.5v that could indicate sub par or degraded imc.

My 9900ks can pass geekbench 3 with 1.10v vccsa vccio @4200-4533mhz.

If it gets to a point where 1.35v to 1.4v is needed for daily the imc is going to degrade further. At lease on the 9900ks

Cinebench 15 does not scale with DDR clocks because all CB resources loaded only into on die cache. you would see ~15 points variation not 500 unless something went terribly wrong with bios settings...
Just like you have to watch the KPE in 3Dmark you also have to watch the 9900K in CB. Load line and Cache ratio play a significant performance role.
 
BDIE is fine at 1.4 -1.5v... At these voltages the only thing that could happen is thermal stability issues over time. BDIE is temp sensitive. it likes 30-40c load temps
 
4200mhz is fine. Give her 1.5 volts and tighten the timings.  Luumi talks about bdie timings in depth here
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_ZAecVuSc
53 ~ minutes in
 
I would try those primary timings on your kit @ 4200 or lower and then secondary timings, followed by tertiary.