With a CPU cooler, RAM and their high-rise sinks and all the dual-slot graphics you can fit; how can any of you guys still see the mainboard to be so superficially concerned with how they look like? 
 

wjerla
LGA2011 will get 22nm when Ivy Bridge E comes out, probably at least a year from now or so.  I'm not 100% sure but I don't think there are any regular Ivy Bridge chips announced for LGA2011.

Ivy Bridge is Ivy Bridge, there is no regular; although 22nm parts will show up in all sockets eventually so you're right on that front.   The templated model is the largest die, the 12-core variant meant for Xeon E5 series in which we'll never see as an i7 because there is no market projected where AMD would push more than an 8-core at less than $300 in the next 2 years anyway.   Intel will milk quads in mainstream and 6-cores in high-end as long as AMD can't keep up.  Maybe we'll see a $999 8-core in X79 through Ivy Bridge-E, maybe not.  We know LGA1155 will see an i7-3700K 22nm as another quad with HT, and I suspect its stock frequency is 4GHz to account for the rumored performance difference between 2600K.

if the rumor is true for X79 launch on or around the 15th, this board will launch sometime in the next 2-3 weeks

Dang it! I should of waited for this board :(

I hate motherboards with tiny, loud fans. Do not want.
 
Also, for such a high-end board, it has so few POSCAP capacitors.

hale88

so basically the ram kit from LGA 1366 won't work with the LGA2011? this is so disappointed. They should do something like that :(

The way I understand it, our RAM is compatible, it's just that if we install 6 sticks (R4E) we will only be using dual-channel? And if we install only 3 sticks we will only be single-channel - now that is a problem. You could also buy another single stick (or two in the case of 6->8) of the same to make your set, if they still sell it. It looks like I am SOL on my Mushkin Redline ridgebacks (CL7). Yeah, I may be buying a new set of RAM now for my new mobo. But on the bright side, have you looked at prices lately? Pretty cheap.
 
Hey, that made me think about it, you know how memory prices are so volatile (pun)? Perhaps it's a good idea to buy the mem in the next week or so to avoid the price increase caused by sudden demand for the new purchases when X79 comes out.

Well, I guess I would stick with my belove LGA 1366. Who's gonna need all 8 slots of ram anyway. Also, I just bought additional 6gb Corsair Dominator for 64 bucks :). I have to agree that ram is getting so dirty cheap.

Johnny_Utah

Can't we just use 2 of the 8GB kits of 1.5v ram (z68)?

 
I'm sure you could. The x79 uses the same memory except in a four-channel setup. I've been thinking of going with 2 of the Mushkin 996996 kits.

I was always under the impression that "dual", "tri", or "quad" channel was determined by the memory controller and not by the memory DIMMs themselves (except that capacity and timings need to be compatible / equal).  I was also under the impression that the "dual", "tri", and now "quad" channel kits were more or less just "convenience" features (and also encouraged you to buy more memory) and helped to make sure your memory matched and would run in multiple channel configuration but these kits weren't required for it.

tamerlee

Two sets of dual channel memory will still run in dual channel mode. You have to actually have quad channel memory to run them in quad channel.

That said, the vast majority of people couldn't take advantage of quad channel.

 
Who told you that non-since? Geek squad at bestbuy?:
 

wjerla

I was always under the impression that "dual", "tri", or "quad" channel was determined by the memory controller and not by the memory DIMMs themselves (except that capacity and timings need to be compatible / equal).  I was also under the impression that the "dual", "tri", and now "quad" channel kits were more or less just "convenience" features (and also encouraged you to buy more memory) and helped to make sure your memory matched and would run in multiple channel configuration but these kits weren't required for it.

 
Thats the way it is. You dont need to get a quad channel memory kit. 4 stick of the same ram will work. The only issue the timming and speeds have to be the same.
 
The memory controller decides what the ram runs in and how fast. The ram just has to be at or above JEDEC spec to be sold. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...e-channel_architecture
 

It is not required that identical modules be used, but this is often recommended for best dual-channel operation. It is possible to use a single-sided module of 512 MB[3] and a double-sided module of 512 MB in dual-channel configuration, but how fast and stable it is depends on the memory controller.
If the motherboard has two pairs of differently colored DIMM sockets (the colors indicate which bank they belong to, bank 0 or bank 1), then one can place a matched pair of memory modules in bank 0, but a different-capacity pair of modules in bank 1, as long as they are of the same speed. Using this scheme, a pair of 1 GB memory modules in bank 0 and a pair of matched 512 MB modules in bank 1 would be acceptable for dual-channel operation

tamerlee

The vast majority of people couldn't take advantage of quad channel.

 
Do explain. I see you deleted the other misinformation you posted after finding out it was wrong.
 
This conclusion appeared to be validated by the deleted premise.   So I ask you, why won't most people be able to take advantage?

Johnny_Utah

tamerlee

The vast majority of people couldn't take advantage of quad channel.

Do explain. I see you deleted the other misinformation you posted after finding out it was wrong.

This conclusion appeared to be validated by the deleted premise.   So I ask you, why won't most people be able to take advantage?

 
No, there isn't much to prove other than no typical application can take advantage of tri-channel, let alone quad-channel. Quad-channel is great for servers, but trivial for a typical user.
 
http://www.tomshardware.c...7-Nehalem,2057-13.html

There haven't been many benchmarks since then, but feel free to read through this one on x79:
 
http://www.tomshardware.c...-performance,3026.html
 
Memory-specific synthetic benchmarks, such as Sandra 2011, will show improvement in Tri/Quad channel memory. That's about it.

linuxrouter

tamerlee

There haven't been many benchmarks since then, but feel free to read through this one on x79:

http://www.tomshardware.c...-performance,3026.html

Memory-specific synthetic benchmarks, such as Sandra 2011, will show improvement in Tri/Quad channel memory. That's about it.

The Folding@home CPU client benefits from the extra memory channel in a tri-channel setup. I'm not sure if going from 3 to 4 channels will improve performance or not in this application. We'll have to see when the new processors are released.

 
I'm interested no matter what.  I didn't pick up the x58 chipset for the tri-channel ram, and I won't just be picking up x79 for quad channel.  It's the whole thing, and I can't wait to see benches.

hale88
so basically the ram kit from LGA 1366 won't work with the LGA2011? this is so disappointed. They should do something like that :(

Intel's bottomline rarely has anything to do with our convinience, so don't get upset if they aren't compatible; it is not like we have to upgrade, that will always be our choice -- unless your incomes depends on this upgrade.
 
As for the RAM, that depends. The default support for Nehalem-E (Bloomfield) and Westmere-E (Gulftown) was DDR3-1066 at 1.5v (though the IMC could take up to 1.65 sustained). Sandy Bridge-DT came with the same spec default voltage but at a higher speed of DDR3-1333, while the spec for LGA2011 systems is rumored to default at DDR3-1600 with the same voltage 1.5v.
 
So if you have three sticks of some speed that can run at 1.5v, get a fourth equivalent stick preferably by the same manufacturer to reduce the risk of incompatibility and call it a day.  But if you RAM manufacturer specs state +1.65v or aren't available ofther than a triple-channel kit, yeah then you have just triple-channel and no quad-channel.  
 

tamerlee
I hate motherboards with tiny, loud fans. Do not want.

So change the fan.  The chipset is just a southbridge and dissipates as much heat as a single BGA Vram chip on a video card; the fan may only be there for liability.  Not saying waterblock, just some other piece or copper; bigger fan if you want to.
 

tamerlee
The vast majority of people couldn't take advantage of quad channel.

So a vast majority of people wouldn't benefit from a faster program install or load times?  That's what I enjoy from my triple-channel DDR3-1280 (30.7GB/s) versus the dual-channel DDR2-667 (10.7GB/s) from a previous build.  In fact I know plenty regular folks that would, but there are no cheaper dual-cores for LGA2011 branded as "Core"; however there are Xeon E5 variants that are dual-core...

lehpron So a vast majority of people wouldn't benefit from a faster program install or load times?  That's what I enjoy from my triple-channel DDR3-1280 (30.7GB/s) versus the dual-channel DDR2-667 (10.7GB/s) from a previous build.  In fact I know plenty regular folks that would, but there are no cheaper dual-cores for LGA2011 branded as "Core"; however there are Xeon E5 variants that are dual-core...

 
I haven't seen any articles proving programs install faster with Dual Channel vs Triple Channel. A good SSD will definitely speed this up, but I'd like to see an article that says Triple Channel speeds up install times.
 

Johnny_Utah I'm interested no matter what.  I didn't pick up the x58 chipset for the tri-channel ram, and I won't just be picking up x79 for quad channel.  It's the whole thing, and I can't wait to see benches.

 
I'm definitely getting an x79 since I can probably get a free processor to go with it. Certainly not for the Quad Channel support though. :)