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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 05:23:11
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Looks like the pcie slots are too close together,unless your going liquid.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 05:23:56
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Better plan on never having to do any ram diagnostics with a card in the top slot
Just a little close there
btw, I love how they show off boards like this and don't even take the plastic off the heatsink
Hard to tell from the picture, but I believe the lower memory clips/locks near the PCI slots do not move and only the memory clips/locks on other side move to release the ram... Lower memory clips/locks = Solid (Non-Mechanical) Upper memory clips/locks = Mechanical
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 05:26:33
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Looks like the pcie slots are too close together,unless your going liquid.
Nope. Enough room for dual slot cards...
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 07:22:37
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I still prefer the EVGA solution along with the added value of superior customer service and support.
Have to agree with RJ here. Asus does make some nice products, but god forbid you need to RMA anything as the customer service is terrible. Had some issues with Asus video cards, what a joke trying to get help from customer service. Actually, ASUS did not help or respond at all, had to mod the bios on the cards myself to make them functional. EVGA does run circles around ASUS in this regard.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 13:10:27
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Better plan on never having to do any ram diagnostics with a card in the top slot
Just a little close there
btw, I love how they show off boards like this and don't even take the plastic off the heatsink
Hard to tell from the picture, but I believe the lower memory clips/locks near the PCI slots do not move and only the memory clips/locks on other side move to release the ram...
Lower memory clips/locks = Solid (Non-Mechanical)
Upper memory clips/locks = Mechanical
I am almost positive this is the case. I had a Maximus IV for a little while and that's how the memory slots were on that board. They look the same on this board
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 13:13:15
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I still prefer the EVGA solution along with the added value of superior customer service and support.
Have to agree with RJ here. Asus does make some nice products, but god forbid you need to RMA anything as the customer service is terrible. Had some issues with Asus video cards, what a joke trying to get help from customer service. Actually, ASUS did not help or respond at all, had to mod the bios on the cards myself to make them functional. EVGA does run circles around ASUS in this regard.
So true. ASUS is a nightmare to deal with compared to EVGA. But really, the design of the board is the most important thing, at least to me. And it's not like they won't give you an RMA, it's just a pain.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 13:21:25
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I've heard bad things about Gigabyte customer support too, which is why I'd still consider EVGA when moving to X79 boards. I wouldn't be surprised if they update their UEFI BIOS to come close to others, they really needed to.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 13:23:46
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I have never had with issues with either ASUS or Gigabyte RMA's with high end products, entry level they have been known to be delayed or beat around the bush. But with a company as large as ASUS it is to be expected. I deal with their RMA department perhaps 1-2 times a month. They have always been a pleasure. Perhaps it is presentation or patience when RMA a product?
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 13:47:04
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Better plan on never having to do any ram diagnostics with a card in the top slot
Just a little close there
btw, I love how they show off boards like this and don't even take the plastic off the heatsink
Hard to tell from the picture, but I believe the lower memory clips/locks near the PCI slots do not move and only the memory clips/locks on other side move to release the ram...
Lower memory clips/locks = Solid (Non-Mechanical)
Upper memory clips/locks = Mechanical
Seems like an odd placement to me also, having to remove the gpu to remove the memory would be annoying. Although, once on the board I guess how often do you really need to remove the memory. Other than that, it's a pretty nice looking board.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 14:03:55
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I have never had with issues with either ASUS or Gigabyte RMA's with high end products, entry level they have been known to be delayed or beat around the bush. But with a company as large as ASUS it is to be expected. I deal with their RMA department perhaps 1-2 times a month. They have always been a pleasure. Perhaps it is presentation or patience when RMA a product?
Yeah... lots of mixed comments about their customer support, while EVGA is almost only positive (at least in the US). If EVGA tidies up their UEFI BIOS with X79, they have a real winner. I have a real noob question - will LGA 2011 get 22nm CPUs? I'll probably just wait for those to come around before upgrading. Ivy bridge looks nice but I want more than 16 PCI-E lanes.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 14:34:59
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I have never had with issues with either ASUS or Gigabyte RMA's with high end products, entry level they have been known to be delayed or beat around the bush. But with a company as large as ASUS it is to be expected. I deal with their RMA department perhaps 1-2 times a month. They have always been a pleasure. Perhaps it is presentation or patience when RMA a product?
Yeah... lots of mixed comments about their customer support, while EVGA is almost only positive (at least in the US). If EVGA tidies up their UEFI BIOS with X79, they have a real winner. I have a real noob question - will LGA 2011 get 22nm CPUs? I'll probably just wait for those to come around before upgrading. Ivy bridge looks nice but I want more than 16 PCI-E lanes.
LGA2011 will get 22nm when Ivy Bridge E comes out, probably at least a year from now or so. I'm not 100% sure but I don't think there are any regular Ivy Bridge chips announced for LGA2011.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 15:31:38
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I have never had with issues with either ASUS or Gigabyte RMA's with high end products, entry level they have been known to be delayed or beat around the bush. But with a company as large as ASUS it is to be expected. I deal with their RMA department perhaps 1-2 times a month. They have always been a pleasure. Perhaps it is presentation or patience when RMA a product?
Yeah... lots of mixed comments about their customer support, while EVGA is almost only positive (at least in the US). If EVGA tidies up their UEFI BIOS with X79, they have a real winner. I have a real noob question - will LGA 2011 get 22nm CPUs? I'll probably just wait for those to come around before upgrading. Ivy bridge looks nice but I want more than 16 PCI-E lanes.
Not true. I've been visiting these forums and other forums for a while and have seen lots of negative posts about EVGA! Also, EVGA's tech support and quality control on RMAs is not good at all <<< Based on customer reviews I read. Most people confuse customer service support with tech support, 2 different levels of support. What good is great customer support when you have to RMA products multiple times? ASUS's advance RMA service is far better than EVGA's advance RMA service and EVGA's warranties are non-transferable... I bet if you did a comparison of products sold by each company (EVGA, ASUS, and Gigabyte) and number of complaints about tech support you would find the percentages to be pretty close. Also, if EVGA does not get it right with the X79 MBs, then they may be doom to fail completely. Right now EVGA is falling behind. It's not just the BIOS, but features to. Just compare the ASUS P67 Pro to the EVGA P67 FTW. The ASUS P67 Pro wins and it does it at a better price point. And that is just the ASUS P67/Z68 Pro...
post edited by jeffreylellis - 2011/10/26 16:15:25
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 15:33:43
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I've heard bad things about Gigabyte customer support too, which is why I'd still consider EVGA when moving to X79 boards. I wouldn't be surprised if they update their UEFI BIOS to come close to others, they really needed to.
Are you buying a motherboard so you can RMA it? If so, then you may want to go with a pre-built system with on-site tech support...
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 15:48:19
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I have never had with issues with either ASUS or Gigabyte RMA's with high end products, entry level they have been known to be delayed or beat around the bush. But with a company as large as ASUS it is to be expected. I deal with their RMA department perhaps 1-2 times a month. They have always been a pleasure. Perhaps it is presentation or patience when RMA a product?
I have never had a problem with any of the PC tech companies I have dealt with (EVGA, Gigabyte, ASUS, MSI, Zotac, Etc.) but, I have heard equal number of complaints about them all... I think some people are un-patient and think the world rotates around them and no-one else matters... I think if ASUS and Gigabytes RMA support was so bad, then the thousand of repair shops and tech enthiast shops would not use ASUS and Gigabytes products. I usually just laugh at the complaints about bad support and claims of out standing support.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 16:14:20
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 17:30:44
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It's going to be a hard choice between EVGA and ASUS X79 boards.
But I am leaning towards ASUS right now will have to see what the rest of EVGA X79 boards are like.
Yes RMA with ASUS is no fun, but GIGABTYE I found was worse
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 19:28:55
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I love how some people buy boards based upon how good RMA is.Whats it like?I have never RMAed a motherboard and im on my 10th asus board.You guys almost sound like you buy EVGA because you know your gonna have to RMA. 
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 19:39:53
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Hog, it's just nice to know that a company supports thier products, Asus just happens to be bad at it while Evga has the best support in the industry. That has been my personal experience. Asus does have nice products just poor after sale support.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 20:12:59
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Electronics can fail regardless of manufacturer. Sometimes this happens from excessive heat, quality control, a short somewhere, or for other reasons. Most of the boards I have worked with have worked flawlessly for years, but to date, I have had motherboards fail from the following manufacturers:
Abit Dual P3
2x Asus Intel
DFI AMD
EVGA x58, 680i
Supermicro Dual Opteron
Since failures can happen with any manufacturer, I look for good RMA service and good support from the manufacturers I purchase hardware from. EVGA has decent warranty support and community and I continue to buy their products for this reason and others.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 21:25:58
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I love EVGA but design wise its not looking good right now. I actually would buy Gigabye and Asus ahead of EVGA on design only. Customer Service is another important part of my decision to go with EVGA but not as important as the design, build, and features of the motherboard. To me EVGA is not winning in those 3 departs.
Right now I am not going to be buying X79 Classifieds right away like I did X58 Classified. I'm still confused what X79 really brings to the table first of all (PCIe 3, USB 3, Thunderbolt, and SATA3. Are they all supported by Intel chipset or to the boards still need add on chips?).
Secondly, I want to see what other companies are offering and how the motherboards compare to one another. After the EVGA took so long to update the X58 Raid Rom, unlike Gigabye, I was left disappointed (took more than a year after the release of the Classified to be updated!). Updates to bios from EVGA have been painfully slow.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 21:40:06
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Wow, that must be the ugliest Sabertooth board to date 
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 23:01:25
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Just 1 bad thing... why aren't all ports USB 3.0?
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/26 23:45:31
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getting this over the EVGA board for sure. (the rampage IV)
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 05:44:03
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Just 1 bad thing... why aren't all ports USB 3.0?
Not all USB 2.0 devices will function properly with a USB 3.0 port... A board with all USB 3.0 ports and no USB 2.0 ports would be a bad move (Need at-least 2 USB 2.0 ports)...
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 06:51:25
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I love EVGA but design wise its not looking good right now. I actually would buy Gigabye and Asus ahead of EVGA on design only. Customer Service is another important part of my decision to go with EVGA but not as important as the design, build, and features of the motherboard. To me EVGA is not winning in those 3 departs.
Right now I am not going to be buying X79 Classifieds right away like I did X58 Classified. I'm still confused what X79 really brings to the table first of all (PCIe 3, USB 3, Thunderbolt, and SATA3. Are they all supported by Intel chipset or to the boards still need add on chips?).
Secondly, I want to see what other companies are offering and how the motherboards compare to one another. After the EVGA took so long to update the X58 Raid Rom, unlike Gigabye, I was left disappointed (took more than a year after the release of the Classified to be updated!). Updates to bios from EVGA have been painfully slow.
I have been wondering the same thing. I have been quite interested in the SB-E, but with Ivy Bridge speculated to be available within 4 months after the x79 platform is released, I have to wonder what the real benefit is here. In 4 months will SB-E/X79 buyers be regretting their decisions.
post edited by minger66 - 2011/10/27 06:52:41
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 06:55:41
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Just 1 bad thing... why aren't all ports USB 3.0?
Not all USB 2.0 devices will function properly with a USB 3.0 port... A board with all USB 3.0 ports and no USB 2.0 ports would be a bad move (Need at-least 2 USB 2.0 ports)...
The board should have more 3.0 than 2.0 :)
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 06:56:33
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I'm in the same dilema, guess the only thing is that IB will be only quads (at least at the start) and the fewer pcie lanes...
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 08:07:55
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I'm in the same dilema, guess the only thing is that IB will be only quads (at least at the start) and the fewer pcie lanes...
From what I have read they will have dual core and quad core This includes a new on-die GPU that will come with full DirectX 11 support as well as with 30% more EUs than Sandy Bridge, in order to offer improved performance.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 19:43:15
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I think that sabertooth board has nice colors!
Might go well with my build too. HMMM, but the IV looks to be winning me over.
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Re:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
2011/10/27 19:46:43
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HalloweenWeed --> Asus R4E bandwagon  You drool over the R4E now, from them articles? You should really drool after this one I found: http://tech2.in.com/features/motherboards/asus-x79-motherboard-preview/252262/1#story Scroll down to the R3E Read about the OC KEY! "the OC KEY produces an OSD overlay which can be summoned at anytime, in any program by simply hitting the hot keys on the keyboard. This overlay features two display modes, Extreme and Normal, depending on how much information you wish to see at a time. Not only can you monitor CPU temperatures, voltages and CPU Ratios, you can also tweak them in real time through OSD Tweak IT." (there is much more there.)  I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post edited by HalloweenWeed - 2011/10/27 19:57:04
Main (gaming) rig: i7-3930K; Asus Rampage IV Extreme; H100 W/p-p Excaliburs, AS5; MSI 7870 2GD5/OC; Crucial M4 SSD 256GB. See my primary ModsRigs: Adam for the rest, and I have a second (wife's) rig Asus Rampage III Extreme & 960: Eve.   Overclocking is useless to me if it is not rock stable.
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