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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 09:34:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mathieas 2020/12/17 10:29:36
hey boys i just added my first stock test to the sheet 
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 10:20:09 (permalink)
Is anyone else encountering GPUz saying THRM as a PerfCap reason at all on their 3090 FTW3 Hybrid?  I'm not certain but I think this has to do with the occasional faulty iCX thermal readouts as reported in the 3090 FTW3 Ultra review by GamersNexus - Occasionally in HWInfo64 I've noticed one of my temps (it's never the same one, always either one of the VRM/PWR readouts or vRAM/Mem) will show a reading in excess of 6500C for a split second.
 
Just curious if others are experiencing this or if I should be concerned my card is going to randomly merc itself.
 
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 10:27:19 (permalink)
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Is anyone else encountering GPUz saying THRM as a PerfCap reason at all on their 3090 FTW3 Hybrid?  I'm not certain but I think this has to do with the occasional faulty iCX thermal readouts as reported in the 3090 FTW3 Ultra review by GamersNexus - Occasionally in HWInfo64 I've noticed one of my temps (it's never the same one, always either one of the VRM/PWR readouts or vRAM/Mem) will show a reading in excess of 6500C for a split second.
 
Just curious if others are experiencing this or if I should be concerned my card is going to randomly merc itself.
 
Also, https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/55029822 I'm working on my score (14.5k) :-D




Let me install the same program to see. Do you have a sense for how often it happens? Does it happen at idle? Any additional info on your SOP as I would like to mimic your test best I can.  

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 10:44:21 (permalink)
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Let me install the same program to see. Do you have a sense for how often it happens? Does it happen at idle? Any additional info on your SOP as I would like to mimic your test best I can.  



It is 100% random when it shows up in HWInfo64, the temp that is, happened at idle, happened in game, in benchmarks, and it's just one readout tick then the temp goes back to what it actually is.
 
With GPUz reading out THRM, it's specifically happening at the end of Port Royal when I'm pushing max voltage/clocks really hard, and I also saw it happen during Time Spy Extreme too, during the test or at the very end of GT1 or 2.  It doesn't always show up, and it's just a BLIP of Red/Thermal mixed in with the wall of Green (PWR) - it's never more than single sliver of it.
 
Thanks for checking, really hoping this isn't a cause for concern... I don't think it is, but after seeing someone's 3090 on these forums died after two weeks, my concern level went from green to slightly yellow.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 10:49:03 (permalink)
Added my score to the sheet... funnily enough we got the exact same score with the exact same clocks, except my GPU was slightly higher on the core, and I had GPUz & Afterburner open.  When I figure out where I lose stability, I'm going to back it down a little bit, then close all background processes & see what I hit.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 11:18:46 (permalink)
Found my max, at least on the core, went one step higher & Port Royal crashed halfway through.  All background processes I could close were closed during this run:
 

+210core(+100mV)/+1100vRAM - I have no way of knowing if the power draw was the same as a previous run, but oddly, it did show in that previous run with GPUz open that I was only hitting about 457W? Crazyness.  I would assume my max load temp was in the 55C range.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 11:26:43 (permalink)
Very nice score indeed
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 11:29:21 (permalink)
What tools are you using to overclock it? Did you install the new bios from precision? I was trying to find a change log for it with no luck.  
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 11:39:22 (permalink)
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What tools are you using to overclock it? Did you install the new bios from precision? I was trying to find a change log for it with no luck.  



There is no update from Precision X1 for me for the 3090 FTW3 Hybrid - I would assume whatever "firmware update" there was from Precision X1 for 3090 FTW3 Ultra owners or whichever, was shipped already installed on the Hybrid cards.
 
This specific overclock was doing using Precision X1 - closing the app after the settings were inputted because it's a resource hog for benchmarking purposes.
When I'm undervolting/overclocking I use Afterburner to set just the Voltage/Clock Curve, Precision still controls the fans etc (if it's open)

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 11:48:15 (permalink)
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What tools are you using to overclock it? Did you install the new bios from precision? I was trying to find a change log for it with no luck.  



There is no update from Precision X1 for me for the 3090 FTW3 Hybrid - I would assume whatever "firmware update" there was from Precision X1 for 3090 FTW3 Ultra owners or whichever, was shipped already installed on the Hybrid cards.
 
This specific overclock was doing using Precision X1 - closing the app after the settings were inputted because it's a resource hog for benchmarking purposes.
When I'm undervolting/overclocking I use Afterburner to set just the Voltage/Clock Curve, Precision still controls the fans etc (if it's open)




Mine is also the hybrid FTW 3090 and found it weird it wanted a firmware update. Been trying to find out what exactly the firmware does or someone to just tell me the crap I heard about it undervolting the cards is just crap. 
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 12:04:58 (permalink)
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Mine is also the hybrid FTW 3090 and found it weird it wanted a firmware update. Been trying to find out what exactly the firmware does or someone to just tell me the crap I heard about it undervolting the cards is just crap. 



The only Firmware update I'm aware of that was for 3090s/3080s was to fix fan control issues as well as RGB control issues - There was an issue with certain cards clocking too high when the cards first launched causing crashes, but that was fixed with a driver update from NVidia several revisions ago.  eVGA cards didn't seem to have the problem at all, so it's doubtful they would release something like a firmware update for it.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 12:06:00 (permalink)
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Found my max, at least on the core, went one step higher & Port Royal crashed halfway through.  All background processes I could close were closed during this run:
 

+210core(+100mV)/+1100vRAM - I have no way of knowing if the power draw was the same as a previous run, but oddly, it did show in that previous run with GPUz open that I was only hitting about 457W? Crazyness.  I would assume my max load temp was in the 55C range.


I actually cannot get mine to the 14643 again. At +180core I did hit 14604 or so. My stock PR run is still 13743 which is about as high as i have seen stock. Are you on the XOC bios? I am using the stock bios on OC setting. Is the +100 voltage different for each card? or is that a static voltage change?
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 12:12:51 (permalink)
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Let me install the same program to see. Do you have a sense for how often it happens? Does it happen at idle? Any additional info on your SOP as I would like to mimic your test best I can.  



It is 100% random when it shows up in HWInfo64, the temp that is, happened at idle, happened in game, in benchmarks, and it's just one readout tick then the temp goes back to what it actually is.
 
With GPUz reading out THRM, it's specifically happening at the end of Port Royal when I'm pushing max voltage/clocks really hard, and I also saw it happen during Time Spy Extreme too, during the test or at the very end of GT1 or 2.  It doesn't always show up, and it's just a BLIP of Red/Thermal mixed in with the wall of Green (PWR) - it's never more than single sliver of it.
 
Thanks for checking, really hoping this isn't a cause for concern... I don't think it is, but after seeing someone's 3090 on these forums died after two weeks, my concern level went from green to slightly yellow.




Do you have a sense for how long it took to get the spike? 

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 12:26:33 (permalink)
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I actually cannot get mine to the 14643 again. At +180core I did hit 14604 or so. My stock PR run is still 13743 which is about as high as i have seen stock. Are you on the XOC bios? I am using the stock bios on OC setting. Is the +100 voltage different for each card? or is that a static voltage change?



I found that when things start getting wonky on scores, rebooting seems to solve them.  The +100 is not static & doesn't actually apply an extra 100mV from what I've seen, it's more like 10. lol
I'm on the XOC BIOS (Normal switch position BIOS, because I wanted the 0 RPM mode for the fan on the GPU when it's idle on desktop).
 
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It is 100% random when it shows up in HWInfo64, the temp that is, happened at idle, happened in game, in benchmarks, and it's just one readout tick then the temp goes back to what it actually is.
 
With GPUz reading out THRM, it's specifically happening at the end of Port Royal when I'm pushing max voltage/clocks really hard, and I also saw it happen during Time Spy Extreme too, during the test or at the very end of GT1 or 2.  It doesn't always show up, and it's just a BLIP of Red/Thermal mixed in with the wall of Green (PWR) - it's never more than single sliver of it.
 
Thanks for checking, really hoping this isn't a cause for concern... I don't think it is, but after seeing someone's 3090 on these forums died after two weeks, my concern level went from green to slightly yellow.



Do you have a sense for how long it took to get the spike? 




The temp spike in HWINfo64? No idea, I just look at it... it happened again lol.  I just look at it randomly and I'll notice it happened again.  Just now I looked at it, I rebooted 47 minutes ago post benchmarking, and on PWR4 I have a maximum history reading of 6528.7C.
The THRM readout on GPUz (red sliver on the PerfCap reason) happens most consistently when I'm running high OCs, at the end of the Port Royal benchmark right as it's loading out of the test and on to the results screen.  It happens sometimes in the middle of either of the Graphics Tests in Time Spy Extreme as well, but it's very random, and doesn't always happen - which is why I think it has to be a sensor error & not something to actually "worry" about.
Thanks again for seeing if you have a similar thing going on - hopefully I get some reports of others experiencing it so I can put my mind at ease - in the words of Anderson Silva "IS NORMAL" lol

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/17 12:28:58 (permalink)
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Mine is also the hybrid FTW 3090 and found it weird it wanted a firmware update. Been trying to find out what exactly the firmware does or someone to just tell me the crap I heard about it undervolting the cards is just crap. 



The only Firmware update I'm aware of that was for 3090s/3080s was to fix fan control issues as well as RGB control issues - There was an issue with certain cards clocking too high when the cards first launched causing crashes, but that was fixed with a driver update from NVidia several revisions ago.  eVGA cards didn't seem to have the problem at all, so it's doubtful they would release something like a firmware update for it.




Thank you. I'll just do the update then and get it over with. 
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/26 03:22:48 (permalink)
hey guys i am still testing my card to know if is faulty or not due to black screen problem before starting OC...today i tried oc bios still at stock clock and open case... added new score to sheet
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2020/12/31 07:12:38 (permalink)
yo guys i did my first oc tests... my best score at the moment is 14505. i am using oc stock bios and stock voltage... i did the bench with +235 on core and +500 on memory but looking to others results my score is pretty low for that frequency... i am pretty sure some points are gone due to 3900x and low freq ram 3200 mhz (in january i will buy trident z 4000mhz) but what i am missing is why the frequency is not stable to highest value? is it voltage related? i mean with +235 i basically have 2050/2075 stable freq with 2250 peak...i'd prefer to have a stable 2100 mhz instead of this...what i am missing? voltages? curve? thanks
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/01/15 07:14:36 (permalink)
so boys tired of this power limited crap (due to pcie out of spec) i flashed the xc3 bios and things now are working as intended!!! card handles selected boost frequencies all the time... new score in database!
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/01/19 00:43:51 (permalink)
thanks for your sharing
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/01/24 12:22:11 (permalink)
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Made a spreadsheet template, see what you guys think.

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Looks great! added my current Best port royal score 14853 Im sorry just noticed this is a ftw3 thread. This was from a kingpin 3090.

 
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/01/25 03:58:42 (permalink)
Very nice scores, I cant get good scores.
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/11 19:08:41 (permalink)
My best result so far:
 
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/14 17:57:46 (permalink)
So there has been a lot of talk about undervolting. I tried it for the first time and I must say I was blown away at difference in temps (especially this) and performance of my gpu. I am perfectly happy with stock clock speeds and I really have no need for overclocking. I put together my data in a spreadsheet. If anyone wants to add their data feel free to do so.

https://docs.google.com/s...nd0I/edit?usp=drivesdk

Currently I have my undervolt set to 925 mV with clocks maxing out at 1995 MHz and I have about a 7C temp reduction and a fps boost on all my games and Port Royal. I was also able to adjust the fan curve to have less fan noise.

I played Assassin's Creed Valhalla at max settings @1440p and max temp after 2 hours was 53C. At stock setting this was 58-60C

Played The Division 2 for about an hour and at max settings @1440p and max temp was 60C. At stock settings this was 65C.
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/14 18:55:48 (permalink)
If you want cooler temps & lower power consumption, undervolting is definitely de wae.  Most people should be able to run higher than stock clocks at 1000-1025mV, and still have lower than stock temps/power usage.  Has been the case on all 3 Amperes I've had so far.  3080 FTW3 Ultra ran 2040MHz @ 983mV if I recall and was around 10C cooler on temps than stock while running higher FPS than stock & lower than stock power draw.  3090 FTW3 Hybrid ran 2040MHz @ 1000mV or thereabouts, ran 5-7C cooler than stock & avoided Power Limit almost all the time. 
And then there's the Kingpin that's hitting 2100MHz @ 1025mV - temps are lower, and not that power limit actually matters on this card (hitting 520W of draw isn't happening without some pretty hefty OCing), but it does draw less power at that setting for sure.  I also run 2160MHz @ 1068mV - that still runs about the same or slightly cooler than stock, while being an effective 120MHz OC on the core, alonng side +1000 on the memory, still runs cool & never hits 520W/hard power limit from what I've seen thus far.  Think the highest I've seen it hit on power draw at those settings is around 480W.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/14 20:24:12 (permalink)
eg1122
So there has been a lot of talk about undervolting. I tried it for the first time and I must say I was blown away at difference in temps (especially this) and performance of my gpu. I am perfectly happy with stock clock speeds and I really have no need for overclocking. I put together my data in a spreadsheet. If anyone wants to add their data feel free to do so.

https://docs.google.com/s...nd0I/edit?usp=drivesdk

Currently I have my undervolt set to 925 mV with clocks maxing out at 1995 MHz and I have about a 7C temp reduction and a fps boost on all my games and Port Royal. I was also able to adjust the fan curve to have less fan noise.

I just played Assassin's Creed Valhalla at max settings @1440p and max temp after 2 hours was 53C.

Good Job, I added some data to your spreadsheet. One overvolt and an undervolt.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/14 23:30:03 (permalink)
Thank you both for the information and spreadsheet additions.

Just wanted to add that after some further testing I'm able to get 2010Mhz at 912mV and with a significant Port Royal score increase. I will add the information once I'm done testing tonight. Currently doing a Port Royal Stress Test. Sadly I won't be able to test these settings in game until tomorrow.

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/17 23:41:59 (permalink)
Been without power for a couple of days so I had not been able to test the 2010MHz/912mV undervolt in games. Well power came back on today and I had some time to play Assassin's Creed Valhalla for a couple of hours. Max temp in game was 52C (24C room temp) with clocks steady at 2010MHz. Average clocks during the game where 1995Mhz. This undervolt brought down power consumption to around 380w. Again this is at max settings on 1440p. On stock settings I would get 1950Mhz tops, power consumption 400w+, temps would max out at around 60C and fans were pretty noisy (now it's dead silent). Anyone interested in getting like stock (or better) performance with reduced heat and noise I highly recommend you experiment with undervolting.

CPU: Intel i9-10900K
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Mother Board: MSI MEG Z490 Ace
GPU: EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid 
RAM: 4x 8GB CORSAIR Vengeance @XMP 3600mhz 
SSDs(NVME): 1x WD Black SN750 1TB, 1x WD Black SN750 512Gb
SSDs(SATA): 1x Team Group 2TB
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X3
Case: Corsair Crystal Series 680x
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W G2
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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/02/21 15:47:02 (permalink)
Nice scores man !

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Re: 3090FTW3 Hybrid Port Royal Results 2021/03/02 09:13:04 (permalink)
Almost got the magical 15k.. almost.. 
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/916858

 
Score: 14922
Settings:
+140 Core
+1450 Mem
 19C Ambient
 
Edit; whoops just noticed this is ftw3/xc3 thread. These results are Kingpin
post edited by pcgamerv2 - 2021/03/02 16:43:27
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