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2023/08/02 18:53:54 (permalink)
SOLVED: Plugged in wrong HDMI cable that was not able to handle the bandwidth required from GPU intensive games. To future readers make sure to check to make sure your HDMI cable display port requirements and ensure your HDMI cables match!

Shoutout to @RJohnson11 for his input and special thanks to all those who aided me in my plight.


Greetings EVGA Community,

I have been plagued for the last 6 days with a black screen issue when playing games through steam (Specifically Hunt: Showdown and Risk of Rain 2). For some context, I can play from anywhere to 5 to 30 minutes without issue and then suddenly I lose complete control of my monitors. My primary monitor black screens and then my two tertiary monitors go black. After 15-30s they all come back on and whatever game I am playing moves to a different monitor. After another 5-30s all monitors will black screen again and the game attempts to move back to my primary monitor. This usually results in  a crash or needing to ALT + F4 out of the game in order to regain control of my screens. 

The odd thing about this is it seems to only be more graphic intensive games. I can play games like League of Legends, Team Fight Tactics and Minecraft for hours without any issues. 

Specs:
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming WiFi II
Memory: Cosair Vengeance LPX - 2 x 16GB
GPU: EVGA FTW3 Ultra Gaming LE iCX3 GeForce RTX 3080 TI 12GB
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900x 3.7GHz 12-Core Processor
PSU: Corsair HX1000 Platinum  || 1000 Watts 

Things I have tried to resolve this issue:
1.) Updating my GPU drivers
2.) Clean uninstall of my GPU drivers using DDU/SafeMode
3.) Rolling back GPU drivers to a safe/previously working version
4.) Switching HDMI Cables and ports
5.) Uninstalling Hunt and Reinstalling Hunt
6.) Disabling DirectX 12 and Using DirectX 11
7.) Running the game as Admin
8.) Allowing Hunt and EasyAntiCheat through my firewall
9.) Changing my 3d settings in my Nvidia Control Panel
10.) Disabling FullScreen Optimizations
11.) Reset my bios to default - so no overclocking
12.) Updated AM4 Socket Chipset Drivers
13.) Disable Link State Power Management
14.) Updating Windows
15.) Checking for Overheating - cleaned CPU and reapplied thermal paste
16.) SFC/ Scan Now and DISM Related Commands 
17.) Disassemble my entire PC and reseated everything
18.) Disabled Fast Boot/Startup

Note: I unfortunately do not have any spare parts to test anything.

Notable Events in Event Viewer/Reliability History:
LiveKernalEvent Id: 1a8 and 1b8 
LiveKernalEvent Id: 117

Any Advice or Trouble Shooting is appreciated!
post edited by jkroll98 - 2023/08/03 16:14:21
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/02 20:30:28 (permalink)
Welcome to the EVGA forums & congrats on your first thread
 
That is one of the best opening posts I've seen, great work telling us what is going on & what you have tried so far
 
Couple of questions come to me:
 
Which Nvidia drivers have you tried? ---> Try an Older yet driver (like when it was working correctly before)
 
What OS?
 
Anyone else on Steam reporting this issue with these games?
 
What other software do you have running?
 
Have you reviewed these threads?
 
Comprehensive Windows 10 Black Screen Trouble shooting Guide
 
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/02 20:49:18 (permalink)
Hi there,

Thanks for the response. I appreciate the information and provided links. Here are the answers to your questions: 
1.) I am running Windows 10 64-bit (10.0 Build 19045)
2.) I could not find anyone else reporting issues for steam games with this specific problem that was not resolved by clean installing their graphic drivers with DDU
3.) I have some software running at all times in the background: Razer Synapse (Mouse/DPI Profiles), Wave Link (Elgato Wave 3 Mic Control), Discord, Sound Blaster Command (Headphone Control), and occasionally NZXT Cam to monitor temps throughout my pc
4.) I had previously run into many of solutions provided in the links such as the NVIDIA Firmware updater and the shortcuts (Windows logo key + P or Ctrl + Alt + Del and Windows logo key + Ctrl + Shift + B.) However these did not work for me.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/02 20:54:26 (permalink)
How old is your psu? Does the issue go away if you underclock the card to max negative clocks on the both the core & memory?
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/02 21:03:04 (permalink)
Hello Sajin,

My PSU is only a year old. I have not tried to underclock my card. I will add that to my list of things to try. I just used EVGA Precision to update some firmware that was one thing I had not yet found.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/02 21:05:00 (permalink)
Ok, let us know how the underclock works.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/02 23:59:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2023/09/17 10:19:02
Re-check your motherboard BIOs and make absolutely sure you have the latest version. You've swapped cables but make sure that your cables are certified. I've seen poorly made cables do the exact same problem you are experiencing. 

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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 06:33:54 (permalink)
Hello Rjohnson,

Thanks for your response. I recently updated my bios twice and it is now fully up to date. In regard to the cables… I am still using the stock cables that came with the BIOS, GPU and PSU. I would assume these are certified? Does this mean the integrity of my wires would be at risk of wear and tear after only a year?
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 07:42:41 (permalink)
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Hello Rjohnson,

Thanks for your response. I recently updated my bios twice and it is now fully up to date. In regard to the cables… I am still using the stock cables that came with the BIOS, GPU and PSU. I would assume these are certified? Does this mean the integrity of my wires would be at risk of wear and tear after only a year?



I think RJ is talking about the cables from your GPU to your 3 monitors
 
How to Choose a DisplayPort Cable, and Not Get a Bad One! - DisplayPort
 
 
---> What browser are you using for online gaming?
---> What security software are you using?
 
 
Tests:
1) use only your main monitor
2) Turn off all background software except security & Discord game
3) Turn off your Browser plugins
 
---> If the issue goes away with those items off, test one background software/ browser plugin at a time until the issue returns
 
 
Not sure this is what the issue is but worth a look: 
 
How to Fix VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE BSODs | Tom's Hardware
 
Timeout detection and recovery (TDR) - Windows drivers

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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 08:24:01 (permalink)
I see. To my knowledge my display port cords are certified. I will do the above testing soon. Thank you.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 08:58:53 (permalink)
Unfortunately using only one monitor and turning off all background software did not solve the issue. I still get the black screen crashes with nothing but the game/steam/discord running. I also still get the crashes after under clocking both core and memory to max negatives.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 10:35:34 (permalink)
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I also still get the crashes after under clocking both core and memory to max negatives.

Time to try your gpu in a known good working system to see if the crashes will follow the card to another computer, or try another known good working gpu that draws the same amount of power in your rig.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 11:48:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2023/09/27 06:25:29
I believe I have resolved the issue. While I hate to admit this, I am willing to do so. I did not try all of my HDMI cords. I have a KVM switch, so I have to deal with 9 hdmi cords. I like the fool I am did not try all of them. Shout out to Rjohnson for making me think to try again.

Thanks for all of your help.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/08/03 23:19:38 (permalink)
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I believe I have resolved the issue. While I hate to admit this, I am willing to do so. I did not try all of my HDMI cords. I have a KVM switch, so I have to deal with 9 hdmi cords. I like the fool I am did not try all of them. Shout out to Rjohnson for making me think to try again.

Thanks for all of your help.

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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/09/16 10:41:10 (permalink)
I'm having the same issue even using 1monitor (XG27AQM) which is 1440p 270Hz monitor, I use the DP cable it comes with... I did not try switch to other cable and if it may solve the issue I'd be surprised (but I may try after reading here although it's the retail cable the monitor comes with...) literally nothing runs on PC but the game (CSGO for e.g) and discord, and the monitor may crash/black screen after a while (it may be minutes or even after 30mins) did try disable OC, checked thermals and I have corsair HX1000i PSU so I'm not sure whether it's an issue of lacking WATT... when monitor crash I'm pretty much stuck and needed to restart PC.
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/09/17 11:42:37 (permalink)
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I'm having the same issue even using 1monitor (XG27AQM) which is 1440p 270Hz monitor, I use the DP cable it comes with... I did not try switch to other cable and if it may solve the issue I'd be surprised (but I may try after reading here although it's the retail cable the monitor comes with...) literally nothing runs on PC but the game (CSGO for e.g) and discord, and the monitor may crash/black screen after a while (it may be minutes or even after 30mins) did try disable OC, checked thermals and I have corsair HX1000i PSU so I'm not sure whether it's an issue of lacking WATT... when monitor crash I'm pretty much stuck and needed to restart PC.


Try an HDMI cable. Most homes use an HDMI cable for their TV so you could 'temporarily' borrow one for testing. 

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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/09/17 14:02:32 (permalink)
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I'm having the same issue even using 1monitor (XG27AQM) which is 1440p 270Hz monitor, I use the DP cable it comes with... I did not try switch to other cable and if it may solve the issue I'd be surprised (but I may try after reading here although it's the retail cable the monitor comes with...) literally nothing runs on PC but the game (CSGO for e.g) and discord, and the monitor may crash/black screen after a while (it may be minutes or even after 30mins) did try disable OC, checked thermals and I have corsair HX1000i PSU so I'm not sure whether it's an issue of lacking WATT... when monitor crash I'm pretty much stuck and needed to restart PC.


Try an HDMI cable. Most homes use an HDMI cable for their TV so you could 'temporarily' borrow one for testing. 




I may try but I guess my monitor may get its full capability only with display port (1440p 270hz)
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/09/30 17:45:52 (permalink)
tried with new certified cable DisplayPort 2.1 and even disabled my monitor OC (270Hz OC, 240Hz non OC 1440p) and still while in game my gpu crash sometimes and get black screen (all monitors crash and even when disconnect other monitors then the 1gaming monitor crash aswell) and I have to restart PC in order to see monitor again
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/10/01 05:24:33 (permalink)
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/10/31 19:49:48 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2023/11/01 09:10:25
** Update/Solution solved:
 
I actually got it fixed and fk me for not trying it before, at first I thought it may be the PSU cable extensions that I had to my GPU (the 3 seperated extension cable) which were for the looks some white extenders, but that did not solve it, later later on I thought wait I still have extender connected for my 24ATX motherboard pin, I removed the extender and connected the PSU cable directly and BANGZ no issues since.
 
so while extenders did work for (maybe few years?) without issues, this is defientely was the issue now.
 
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/10/31 21:50:38 (permalink)
Black screen can be very tricky...
I change my FTW3 Hybrid back to Air Cooled today, and got black screen all day (able to have graphic for only few seconds...)
It takes me couple hours to figure out the issue. I tried everything I can think of...flash bios, clear cmos, reinstall ram, reinstall cpu, unplug and replug all headers, etc..
 
turns out is the thermal pad I used on VRAM is too thick... I used a 2.5mm (30 shore, very soft) thermal pad and hope it can be compressed to 2.25mm when I put the back plate on. 
Unfortunately, it stay at 2.5mm and cause heatsink cooper not touch GPU die at all . When I open the heatsink, the thermal paste I applied is still the same as I first applied them.
 
I switch to 2mm thermal pads on VRAM, and now I'm typing this reply....
 
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Re: 3080 TI Black Screen Issues - Seeking Help With Trouble Shooting 2023/11/01 01:52:23 (permalink)
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** Update/Solution solved:
 
I actually got it fixed and fk me for not trying it before, at first I thought it may be the PSU cable extensions that I had to my GPU (the 3 seperated extension cable) which were for the looks some white extenders, but that did not solve it, later later on I thought wait I still have extender connected for my 24ATX motherboard pin, I removed the extender and connected the PSU cable directly and BANGZ no issues since.
 
so while extenders did work for (maybe few years?) without issues, this is defientely was the issue now.
 


Good troubleshooting. 

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