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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/29 18:38:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2018/11/30 08:42:28
When I installed mine I got 2/3rd of the way through screwing the backplate back on when I noticed a slight bulge in the middle of it near the inlet/outlet block that wouldn't go down. I took everything back apart and found it was that the RGB connector or cable being pinched between the layers somehow. I adjusted it and everything went back together perfectly.
 
Might not be your issue but I'd check and make sure that's not happening to you.
 
BTW: My temps have been fantastic on this thing, 29C idle, 45-49C underload with +140 core, +600 mem.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/29 19:27:55 (permalink)
I'll try laying the block on the PCB without the GPU bracket to remove it completely from the equation (won't turn any screws, just want to observe if any TIM transfers).
Otherwise I'll observe the RGB header. I did notice a bulge as well so I wonder if this is the same issue.
Both of these are good ideas and give me new hope. Unfortunately, I'm stuck at work for another hour or two.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 01:29:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2018/11/30 08:46:45
Success! I had to re-engineer some things but I'm getting great temps now.
I tried removing the GPU bracket and laying the block on the card and gave a gentle yet firm press. Lifted the block up and there was better TIM transfer but still not 100%.
 
I then removed all of the thermal pads, laid the block back down and had a complete TIM transfer.
 
I then retried the above process but with the GPU bracket installed with the black side facing up and the pegs going into the holes. Still had a great TIM transfer.
 
I then placed all of the thermal pads down EXCEPT the 3 memory strip pads. Once again, a great TIM transfer.
 
I grabbed some 1mm thick thermal pads from my old EK block and placed these memory chip sized 1mm pads on each of the memory chips. There was great TIM transfer.
 
I then proceeded to screw everything back up, filled up my loop and fired up BFV.
 
After 45 mins of 4K Ultra settings in BFV, I have not seen more than 43 C on the GPU Temp1 and no more than 58 C on the Mem Temp1/2/3/4. (Micron)
 
Lessons learned:
1. Wrong images were used on EVGA website (fixed)
2. GPU bracket is silly. There should be screws going from the back of the PCB into the block directly. The four closest screws to the GPU die should not be used to hold on a GPU bracket. This design failure puts pressure on surrounding screws to ensure the gap is closed. (note: those surrounding screws cannot adequately do that.)
3. EVGA over engineered their thermal pads. Thick thermal pads provide a premium feel but they highlight poor engineering standards. A thermal pad is meant to fill the gap between the chip and the block. Using thick thermal pads means EVGA is expecting a certain level of variance between blocks or they couldn't machine the blocks to come in such close contact with the chips. EKWB uses 1mm thermal pads on all of their blocks that I have owned, which tells me their machining is able to achieve a more precise and better product and they don't need thick thermal pads to compress the open space.
4. EVGA shows the GPU bracket being installed with the black side down and the pegs facing upwards on their documentation. I would argue against this design if you insist on using a GPU bracket or updating your documentation as the described/pictured method did not work for me.
 
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 02:04:28 (permalink)
So then are you saying that you installed everything as according to the directions with the waterblock the only thing you changed was that you used your own thermal pads from ek instead on the memory modules of the card, or did you leave the gpu bracket off as well?




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 02:09:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2018/11/30 08:46:55
Two changes:

I used EKWB’s thermal pads for the memory chips and I placed the GPU bracket upside down, which goes against the instructions and pictures.

Other than that, I followed the directions exactly as described.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 02:11:04 (permalink)
I am glad you where able to get it working.

My guess is the instructions about the black side being down may be incorrect. Or the black is on the wrong side.

I couldn't read the instructions so I went logicly. Pegs in holes, flat on flat.

I do have a feeling you should have left the original thermal tape in place. Your memory should not be more than one or two degrees different than the gpu. The absolute highest I have seen on memory is 52c while the gpu is sitting at 49c that's was on heavy OC on memory and gpu running a continual bench to to find out max temps.

Your temps are still good mind you. It's just an observation.


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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 04:40:14 (permalink)
OK, i just got my hydro copper block installed, i made no changes from the instructions and have just now booted back up for the first time, i used the thermal pads that were included and put the GPU bracket with the black side towards the board so i followed the directions just as they were included, give me a little while to make sure i have no leaks and let things settle in and i will start to do a few benchmarks.




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 06:13:18 (permalink)
I just installed my hydro copper block on my 2080ti ftw3 this morning and this is the results i got while running furmark stress test 2560x1440p on my 32" 165Hz Predator Monitor.    Inside room temp is 70 degrees and after a 30 minute run the ICX sensors were showing the following results at +900 memory and +110 core clock.
 
MEM1 46C
MEM2 67C
MEM3 61C
GPU1 56C
GPU2 62C
PWR1 44C
PWR2 48C
PWR3 54C
PWR4 53C
PWR5 47C




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 06:28:07 (permalink)
Your temps seem pretty warm to me to be on water. where you stress testing? My idle temps are 27-30 in a 70f room. i can throw anything at it and not get past 49c gpu 52c on memory at a +175 gpu +1200 memory
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 06:30:29 (permalink)
Yes that was a full stress test for 30 minutes with furmark, and my idle temps are 29-30 as well.




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 06:37:13 (permalink)
Well I don't know then. You have better knowledge of water cooling then I do, This was very first custom loop build. I am winging it for the most part LOL
 
I won't run furmark too many people say it can damage your video card including Nvidia. Its one of those.. I don't know but I won't risk it kinda things.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 06:49:14 (permalink)
Yeah i just bumped up to +1050 memory and +115 core clock and did the same test with virtually identical temps in the end. I have never had an issue with furmark, its the same thing as doing evga oc scanner or msi kombustor 




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 07:34:00 (permalink)
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I couldn't read the instructions 




I literally had to use a magnifying glass to read them and see what was going on in the pictures lol. They have that big ole box with plenty of room for a bigger print of the instructions! Really my only complaint about the product.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 07:42:55 (permalink)
The hydro copper block for sure helps, i have been able to get my memory oc up to +1200 steady now before it was spotty at +1050 so seeing just how high i can get it. I do agree with the instructions as well, i also used a magnifying glass for parts of it.




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 07:59:46 (permalink)
2080ti FTW3 - HydroCopper block took 3 installs for it to properly sit and make enough contact with GPU. Once complete max oc 2085 GPU and 8000 Mem - Temps don't go past 46c after 5+ hours of gaming - Battlefield V/Call of Duty BO4. 2560x1440 165hz 
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:12:20 (permalink)
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Yes that was a full stress test for 30 minutes with furmark, and my idle temps are 29-30 as well.


 
Idle,
 
jinihammerer
I won't run furmark too many people say it can damage your video card including Nvidia. Its one of those.. I don't know but I won't risk it kinda things.

This is True and also NVIDIA Has said the Same.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:15:19 (permalink)
For my max temps I used heaven bench for an hour, those temps are higher than when i run BFV or other games all day long. Games normally sit 45c ish including BFV.


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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:16:56 (permalink)
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For my max temps I used heaven bench for an hour, those temps are higher than when i run BFV or other games all day long. Games normally sit 45c ish including BFV.


That is what my XC &  my XC ULTRA 38°C runs as well
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:21:51 (permalink)
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Yes that was a full stress test for 30 minutes with furmark, and my idle temps are 29-30 as well.


I could see maybe 38°C - 40°C but not 29°C - 30°C @ 100% Usage running that tool, unless it is 5°C - 10°C in the room on just a Custom Water Loop.
Are you running a chiller?
 




I think you misread what he was saying. he says his idle temps are 29-30. There is nothing unexpected there.


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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:23:26 (permalink)
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Yes that was a full stress test for 30 minutes with furmark, and my idle temps are 29-30 as well.

Idle
I could see maybe 38°C - 40°C but not 29°C - 30°C @ 100% Usage running that tool, unless it is 5°C - 10°C in the room on just a Custom Water Loop.
Are you running a chiller?
 

I think you misread what he was saying. he says his idle temps are 29-30. There is nothing unexpected there.

"Yes that was a full stress test for 30 minutes with furmark, and my idle temps are 29-30 as well."  Yes, This is miss leading at best
GPU1 56C
GPU2 62C
My Idle Temps are 20°C and my room is 10°C or 50°F
My Coolant Temps are between 18°C and 20°C
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:25:26 (permalink)
my rooms not even 20c LOL


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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:28:48 (permalink)
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my rooms not even 20c LOL


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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:34:40 (permalink)
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I just installed my hydro copper block on my 2080ti ftw3 this morning and this is the results i got while running furmark stress test 2560x1440p on my 32" 165Hz Predator Monitor.    Inside room temp is 70 degrees and after a 30 minute run the ICX sensors were showing the following results at +900 memory and +110 core clock.
 
MEM1 46C
MEM2 67C
MEM3 61C
GPU1 56C
GPU2 62C
PWR1 44C
PWR2 48C
PWR3 54C
PWR4 53C
PWR5 47C


 
 
 
Nice results 
 
... just a little warm in your room
 

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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:48:59 (permalink)
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I am glad you where able to get it working.

My guess is the instructions about the black side being down may be incorrect. Or the black is on the wrong side.

I couldn't read the instructions so I went logicly. Pegs in holes, flat on flat.

I do have a feeling you should have left the original thermal tape in place. Your memory should not be more than one or two degrees different than the gpu. The absolute highest I have seen on memory is 52c while the gpu is sitting at 49c that's was on heavy OC on memory and gpu running a continual bench to to find out max temps.

Your temps are still good mind you. It's just an observation.


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Assemble then take it back apart & examine contact pattern on Pads 
EK How to correctly apply the thermal interface material
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 08:52:32 (permalink)
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 09:01:27 (permalink)
I'm not sure here, is somone saying i mislead on a result in a previous post? I showed the temps at the end of a furmark stress test while it was still running and said my idle temps were 29C to 30C.  I just got this result for time spy extreme at +1300 memory and +115 clock.
I had 3 consecutive runs and total scores of 7978, 7970, and 7961 at these overclocks. 
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/5228749 
 




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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 09:12:11 (permalink)
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I'm not sure here, is somone saying i mislead on a result in a previous post? I showed the temps at the end of a furmark stress test while it was still running and said my idle temps were 29C to 30C.  I just got this result for time spy extreme at +1300 memory and +115 clock.
I had 3 consecutive runs and total scores of 7978, 7970, and 7961 at these overclocks. 
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/5228749 

No, I just missed the word Idle was all.
Though posting the Temps while Running that Tool would have be nice as well.
Nice Score  https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/5228749/spy/4982722/spy/4911902
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 09:18:13 (permalink)
he did LOL you broke into the middle of a conversation ;P


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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 09:31:50 (permalink)
My idle temps were also in the low 30s when the block wasn’t making full contact. Only playing BFV showed the issue.
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Re: 2080 ti ftw3 + hydrocopper temps (informational) 2018/11/30 09:34:15 (permalink)
@dwexpress

  I went a head and replicated your furmark test as best i could running 2560@1440 for a half hour with a 2115 OC 8000 mem ambient temp at the time was 23c 73f
So yea i see it gets significantly warmer running with that. Now to delete it from my box, and turn the air on LOL 
 
my results after 30 min
MEM1 45C
MEM2 60C
MEM3 58C
GPU1 51C
GPU2 56C
PWR1 39C
PWR2 45C
PWR3 49C
PWR4 48C
PWR5 42C
 
 


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