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2014/05/27 02:58:34 (permalink)
have recently got watch dogs , and I am using the latest drivers 337.88 and the game runs terrible with SLI on !! frame rate drops makes the game unplayable !! even if I disable SLI it works better but still with frame rate drops and stuttering !! really how they can publish a game without optimizing it first ! catn imagine I have paid a lot of money for SLI and I cant use them in game !! My pc specs r in my signature and I have a powerful pc that can make any game work on ultra settings
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:07:39 (permalink)
    a game took 2 yrs in the making and postponed more than once to have that horrible stutter and game frame drops , and I assure u it has nothing to do with bottlenecking or overclocking my PC !! coz the game runs bad with SLI on or OFF !! and all my other games ran great , I am even using the latest drivers optimized for watch dogs !! (realy !!) ..I have my friends with ps4 and the game run fine !!

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:15:23 (permalink)

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:18:28 (permalink)
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    Try some steps posted here:
     
    http://segmentnext.com/20...ors-freezes-and-fixes/


    #1 – Nvidia Graphics and Performance Fix – FPS Drops, Stuttering and Frame Skipping
    The easiest way for nVidia users to run the game on optimum settings to avoid all these issues is to install GeForce Experience and choose Watch Dogs profile. Uh... No.

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:20:20 (permalink)
    "How can they publish a game without optimizing it first?"  I don't know.. Ask DICE...  There is probably unforeseen things happening.  Hopefully you get it figured out.  I am downloading it, but wont be able to play for a couple of weeks.  
     
    P.S.  If one game makes you great paying a lot of money for SLI, then I feel really bad for you.  It's one game.  I personally didn't pay for the game, as it came with the 3rd GPU I bought, so I won't be able to complain.  

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:21:35 (permalink)
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    Try some steps posted here:
     
    http://segmentnext.com/20...ors-freezes-and-fixes/


    #1 – Nvidia Graphics and Performance Fix – FPS Drops, Stuttering and Frame Skipping
    The easiest way for nVidia users to run the game on optimum settings to avoid all these issues is to install GeForce Experience and choose Watch Dogs profile. Uh... No.


    Well for someone who doesn't know how to tinker with settings it actually might be the 'easiest' way out

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:46:41 (permalink)

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:52:38 (permalink)
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    Try some steps posted here:
     
    http://segmentnext.com/20...ors-freezes-and-fixes/


    #1 – Nvidia Graphics and Performance Fix – FPS Drops, Stuttering and Frame Skipping
    The easiest way for nVidia users to run the game on optimum settings to avoid all these issues is to install GeForce Experience and choose Watch Dogs profile. Uh... No.


    Well for someone who doesn't know how to tinker with settings it actually might be the 'easiest' way out


    GeForce Experience causes to many issues. I would not use it at all.

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 03:54:10 (permalink)
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    have recently got watch dogs , and I am using the latest drivers 337.88 and the game runs terrible with SLI on !! frame rate drops makes the game unplayable !! even if I disable SLI it works better but still with frame rate drops and stuttering !! really how they can publish a game without optimizing it first ! catn imagine I have paid a lot of money for SLI and I cant use them in game !! My pc specs r in my signature and I have a powerful pc that can make any game work on ultra settings




    The game is a Vram hog. I can play it great on SLI at 2560x1600 on Ultra and get a rock steady 60fps. But whether it's on FXAA, 2xSSAA, 4xMSAA - EVGA Precision shows 5.9gb of Vram per GPU. And I did have a singular incident of stutter for less than a second during some heavy action, but so far that's it. 
     
    Here's Guru3D's benchmark review saying 3gb of Vram isn't enough:
     
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 04:55:12 (permalink)
    thank u all for your answer i didnt try MSAA x 8 as they say i need 4g of VRAM so i am using MSAA x 2 , i dont use gforce experience as it realy cause problems in making u use settings u dont wana like motion blur , i even used one card and disabled the SLI and the performance was better but still 60 and less frame rate and even drops to 30 or 40 !! i am playing on ultra and i dont think a GTX 780 TI should be be used in a less than  ultra settings for recent games which i do with all my previous games ,  so i am not willing to decrease my settings to a bad looking AA to play a game , or else get me a ps4 better :) as they say PS4 is  like  high settings on PC for watch dogs 

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:06:42 (permalink)
    lol i wouldnt even be able to run it...
     
    and why is it that so many games are terrible with SLI (or Crossfire) for weeks after launch? Doesnt anyone fix this or test it before they are released?
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:07:41 (permalink)
    Right now I have everything maxed except textures , shadow and reflections (all on high) , Temporal SMAA and AO one tick down at 1920x1080 120 HZ and its running great so far, using 1832 MB on average of my 2GB Vram with the rig in my sig, i7-950 and 2x 660TI sli.
     
     How much Vram are you using? if your near the limit and or creeping over it, you will have problems.
     
     As for optimization.....this for me is better than most, to have a working SLI profile at launch isn't something you see often....as for bugs and less than ideal performance...welcome to gaming in the internet age.....its been like this since the mid 90's and the advent of game patches .....The only way this practice will ever stop is if we ALL stop preordering and buying on launch day and only buy when its 100% done, fully baked golden brown and delicious , hit em hard in the wallet and things will change in , but as long as its not hurting their bottom line...its business as usual.

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:11:09 (permalink)
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    lol i wouldnt even be able to run it...
     
    and why is it that so many games are terrible with SLI (or Crossfire) for weeks after launch? Doesnt anyone fix this or test it before they are released?




     SLI and Xfire users are in the minority , so we are far from the top of the food chain....#1 recommendation when a new game launches and you are having issues..."disable SLI"......sucks....

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:12:51 (permalink)
    Did anyone see this link? It was stated by someone working on the game that "90% of the dev team runs on Nvidia Geforce 670" and on Ultra. 
     
    http:// wccftech.com/watch-dogs-pc- version-confirmed-run-ultra-high-settings-midrange-gpu/
     
    How come higher end cards are having problems? D:
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:14:03 (permalink)
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    Try some steps posted here:
     
    http://segmentnext.com/20...ors-freezes-and-fixes/


    #1 – Nvidia Graphics and Performance Fix – FPS Drops, Stuttering and Frame Skipping
    The easiest way for nVidia users to run the game on optimum settings to avoid all these issues is to install GeForce Experience and choose Watch Dogs profile. Uh... No.


    Well for someone who doesn't know how to tinker with settings it actually might be the 'easiest' way out


    GeForce Experience causes to many issues. I would not use it at all.


    I have never had 1 single issue with GFE. It works very well, and its great to use as a baseline for optimal settings. In fact for me to date its been 100% spot on as far as settings go.
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:16:14 (permalink)
    Hmm, my link is not showing up.
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:16:28 (permalink)
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    thank u all for your answer i didnt try MSAA x 8 as they say i need 4g of VRAM so i am using MSAA x 2 , i dont use gforce experience as it realy cause problems in making u use settings u dont wana like motion blur , i even used one card and disabled the SLI and the performance was better but still 60 and less frame rate and even drops to 30 or 40 !! i am playing on ultra and i dont think a GTX 780 TI should be be used in a less than  ultra settings for recent games which i do with all my previous games ,  so i am not willing to decrease my settings to a bad looking AA to play a game , or else get me a ps4 better :) as they say PS4 is  like  high settings on PC for watch dogs 


    This game promotes TXAA, and has been optimized(or designed around)for it and other Nvidia technologies. Its almost as if the game was designed(or poorly optimized on purpose)to steer you towards using it for AA.
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:17:05 (permalink)
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    Did anyone see this link? It was stated by someone working on the game that "90% of the dev team runs on Nvidia Geforce 670" and on Ultra. 
     
     
     
    How come higher end cards are having problems? D:




    What link?
     
     Did they make 4GB 670's? cause they aren't running ultra with 2GB....I spose it also depends on what state the game was in when quoted....the HOLY CRAP!! 2012 demo probably was driven by 600 series cards....wish the game looked closer to that demo than it does...

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:23:23 (permalink)
    yes there are 4gb 670s
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:33:15 (permalink)
    Here is a good link, from Nvidia on optimal settings for Watchdogs with a variety of GTX card configs: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide#watch-dogs-optimal-playable-settings
     
      It was 100% spot on for me and my 780ti SLI/4770k combo............anything less than GTX 770 sli and your dropping AA down considerably.........anything less than a single GTX 770 and your starting to drop down other settings as well.
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:47:17 (permalink)
    i have read the  guru article and it sates many problems with the game even more frame rate drops with SLI !! http://www.guru3d.com/art...enchmark_review,1.html
    i will try the high settings not the ultra and use fxaa instead of MSAA and disable the SLI :( THAT REALY SUCKS 

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 05:52:35 (permalink)
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    Here is a good link, from Nvidia on optimal settings for Watchdogs with a variety of GTX card configs: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide#watch-dogs-optimal-playable-settings
     
      It was 100% spot on for me and my 780ti SLI/4770k combo............anything less than GTX 770 sli and your dropping AA down considerably.........anything less than a single GTX 770 and your starting to drop down other settings as well.


     WILL try to use these settings u stated and make a post after that , thanx 

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 06:03:19 (permalink)
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    i have read the  guru article and it sates many problems with the game even more frame rate drops with SLI !! http://www.guru3d.com/art...enchmark_review,1.html
    i will try the high settings not the ultra and use fxaa instead of MSAA and disable the SLI :( THAT REALY SUCKS 


    I have read that article over now thoroughly and in all honesty, that reviewer did not take into account what Nvidia has for recommendations on how to PROPERLY OPTIMZE and TWEAK the game. Nvidia itself directly states in a round about way that the game will bottleneck on GPU/CPU combos depending on settings and resolution used, not just the VRAM which is implied by the review at Guru. 6gb Titan Blacks in SLI have the same recommended settings as 780ti SLI setups, and there has already been a report tha the extra 3gigs of ram on the Blacks does noting for performance at higher resoltions or even allow for higher AA settings.
     
      If your using SLI for Blacks, Ti's, 780's or 770's you should be using 2-4x TXAA based on 1080p. If not, supposed to be SMAA. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. If your at 1440p or higher, then SMAA only, or nothing........at those higher resolutions you really shouldn't be cranking AA anyway, or need to.
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 06:12:41 (permalink)
    I'm getting reports of SLI not working properly with watchdogs. Crossfire is not working properly either.  

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 06:31:37 (permalink)
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    I'm getting reports of SLI not working properly with watchdogs. Crossfire is not working properly either.  


    Who knows with crossfire what the issues are, but SLI functions correctly IMO. I bet a lot of it has to do with user error due to improper settings and less than optimal knowledge on how to correctly set the game up.
     
       Which is why I ALWAYS go to Nvidia's Geforce webpage first and fully READ UP ON the user guides and tweaks for a specific individual game that has been supported directly by Nvidia and developed in tandom with the game developer.
     
       Which is why everyone on this board should click on this link and read up in depth: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide#watch-dogs-optimal-playable-settings
     
       It goes in depth, not only on recommended in game settings, but also delves into high detail about the program in general, each and every setting, the effects or lack of and the full findings of visual feedback and performance hits if any.
     
       If I can get the game to run smoothly without issues, then I am sure everyone else here can.
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 07:12:01 (permalink)
    SLI seems to work well for me for the most part, the further in game I get though, the more "hiccups" seem to occur....

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 07:55:22 (permalink)
    SLI for me leads to stuttering and frame rate drops even if at high settings !!!

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 08:04:31 (permalink)
     
       You may want to look into shutting down background apps, you could have something(s) totally unneeded eating up resources.

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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 08:36:31 (permalink)
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       You may want to look into shutting down background apps, you could have something(s) totally unneeded eating up resources.


    I agree, I can betcha there are other possibilities causing issues..........
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    Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI 2014/05/27 08:42:32 (permalink)
    I am having the same issues with my GTX 780 SLI setup :-(; Lots of stuttering, specially while driving. It does not matter what settings I use. Low, Medium, High, Ultra... No AA all the way to MSAA 8x... it just does not matter; it still stutters and drops frames. What a pain in the ass. Oh, and it just crashed too!!


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