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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 18:47:26
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Well I disabled one of my 780Ti's, 1440p, Ultra everything, 4X MSAA and the stuttering was practically non existant and the gameplay was much smoother. So i'm guessing its more of a SLI issue with a little bit of Vram problems thrown into the mix as well.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 19:00:20
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So I get higher GPU usage in the menu than during gameplay.
When I play ultra it goes from 55-70% for each card. In the menu it goes to 92-96% -_-
I did a clean install of the drivers.
Such a poorly made game. They stated that they made it for PCs then ported it to consoles...ya right.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:04:08
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The menu was slow for me on SLI. When I disabled one GPU the menu was very smooth.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:04:23
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I have had some time to play in my surround set-up (5940 x 1080, 3-way GTX 780) and it works pretty well. I can keep all settings on Ultra. If I however turn in AA I get the stuttering. With it off it works well. I have not tried all the AA options yet but I am experimenting. Btw those with surround will want to use the FOV fix that Hayden has included in his Flawless Widescreen program. Without this fix the game is unplayable in surround given the fact that it essentially cuts out the top and bottom of the picture.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:48:31
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Just a quick run down. With every in game setting maxed @1920x1080, I'm staying pretty consistently in the mid 70's for FPS. Occasional drops into the 55 FPS range. GPU utilization on both GPU's is consistently in the mid 90% range. So SLI is apparently working fairly well. Stuttering wasn't that noticeable even while driving. No worse than BF4 ha ha. GPU memory usage peaked at just under 4.2GB. Interestingly, Afterburner was showing over 10GB page file usage  ...which is odd since I have a user set page file of 2GB min/max on my SSD...
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:51:38
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Honestly I don't think I've played an Ubisoft game the last 10 years that didn't have serious issues the first month or 2 on PC.....I didn't buy AC4 at launch because of past problems (still haven't gotten it actually), Watchdogs I wasn't planning on buying straight away but a few days before launch I caved....all told I will probably wish I had waited for the STEAM holiday sale as planned...more than likely half price and the major bugs and performance issues fixed.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:54:05
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Just a quick run down. With every in game setting maxed @1920x1080, I'm staying pretty consistently in the mid 70's for FPS. Occasional drops into the 55 FPS range. GPU utilization on both GPU's is consistently in the mid 90% range. So SLI is apparently working fairly well. Stuttering wasn't that noticeable even while driving. No worse than BF4 ha ha. GPU memory usage peaked at just under 4.2GB. Interestingly, Afterburner was showing over 10GB page file usage ...which is odd since I have a user set page file of 2GB min/max on my SSD...
Have you tried this... "Go to your shortcut, right click, and add “-disablepagefilecheck” at the end of the target line. If you have the Steam version you can add it to your launch options too."
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:54:14
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The menu was slow for me on SLI. When I disabled one GPU the menu was very smooth.
Did you change the vsync frame settings?
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 20:56:47
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Just a quick run down. With every in game setting maxed @1920x1080, I'm staying pretty consistently in the mid 70's for FPS. Occasional drops into the 55 FPS range. GPU utilization on both GPU's is consistently in the mid 90% range. So SLI is apparently working fairly well. Stuttering wasn't that noticeable even while driving. No worse than BF4 ha ha. GPU memory usage peaked at just under 4.2GB. Interestingly, Afterburner was showing over 10GB page file usage ...which is odd since I have a user set page file of 2GB min/max on my SSD...
Have you tried this... "Go to your shortcut, right click, and add “-disablepagefilecheck” at the end of the target line. If you have the Steam version you can add it to your launch options too."
I think it's a glitch in Afterburner. I wasn't showing any where near that amount of memory allocated. In fact I don't think I hit 4.5 GB total system memory usage.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 21:10:10
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"Did you change the vsync frame settings?"
What should I change it to?
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 21:20:18
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"Did you change the vsync frame settings?"
What should I change it to?
I noticed when I changed it to 2 frame vsync the mouse was lagging in the menu. I have in game vsync off and adaptive set in the Nvidia control panel.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 21:44:08
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I didn't try adaptive in the nvidia control panel but I I have tried 2 frame and 1 frame and vsync off and its all the same thing.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 22:58:31
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I do have completely reinstalled windows 7.. newest drivers.. 780 SLI Superclock edition and playing at 1440p And this game is nearly unplayable for me at ultra with only SMAA.. these shutters and fps drops make this the worst optimized game I've recently played. And no I don't use pagefile, completely turned off in windows.. because at 16GB of RAM I don't need it. All of this is happening on fullscreen mode.. on borderless it's even worse And on the contrary this guy is playing only at single 780 Ti at 4K on 60+ fps... "youtube.com/watch?v=FOHDpIpujo4" **** is wrong with nvidia and developers these days.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 23:49:18
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I do have completely reinstalled windows 7.. newest drivers.. 780 SLI Superclock edition and playing at 1440p
And this game is nearly unplayable for me at ultra with only SMAA.. these shutters and fps drops make this the worst optimized game I've recently played.
And no I don't use pagefile, completely turned off in windows.. because at 16GB of RAM I don't need it.
All of this is happening on fullscreen mode.. on borderless it's even worse
And on the contrary this guy is playing only at single 780 Ti at 4K on 60+ fps... "youtube.com/watch?v=FOHDpIpujo4" **** is wrong with nvidia and developers these days.
That isn't 'on the contrary'. The menu shows it running at 1080p and doesn't even show what other settings they are using. In other words, that video is useless for a performance comparison. You should be running a page file too, regardless if you think you need one or not. Just set custom page file with a min/max of 2GB
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 23:53:34
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HeavyHemiYou should be running a page file too, regardless if you think you need one or not. Just set custom page file with a min/max of 2GB
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 23:55:10
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HeavyHemiYou should be running a page file too, regardless if you think you need one or not. Just set custom page file with a min/max of 2GB
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For BSOD information. 
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 23:55:51
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I dont get BSOD, like never..
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/27 23:59:10
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I dont get BSOD, like never..
That's fine, but with the page file disabled windows cannot create .dmp files when a BSOD occurs. A .dmp file is important, it could make the difference between figuring out what is wrong with your system or not figuring it out.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 00:01:55
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Sajin is correct. .dmp files is one of the best methods of troubleshooting
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 00:07:27
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Well, but the performance of watch dogs is in discussion here.. not BSOD and pagefile, pagefile isn't going to help me to have better performance in watch dogs..
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 00:11:23
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Pagefile definitely helped me figure out my BSOD issues (that and Sajin who is awesome). I didn't have any until one day I did :) But you can always turn it back on easily enough if you do start to get BSOD's.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 00:23:10
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Pagefile definitely helped me figure out my BSOD issues (that and Sajin who is awesome). I didn't have any until one day I did :) But you can always turn it back on easily enough if you do start to get BSOD's.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 00:25:36
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Well, but the performance of watch dogs is in discussion here.. not BSOD and pagefile, pagefile isn't going to help me to have better performance in watch dogs..
That depends upon your definition of 'performance'. One person might say a BSOD is a sign of poor performance and another person might not.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 00:27:38
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Well, but the performance of watch dogs is in discussion here.. not BSOD and pagefile, pagefile isn't going to help me to have better performance in watch dogs..
That depends upon your definition of 'performance'. One person might say a BSOD is a sign of poor performance and another person might not.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 03:48:18
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For me dedicated Nvidia settings are future wish list for my 780Ti sli OC with i7 4.6GHz 780 Ti SLI - 4xTXAA HBAO+ (High) On Ultra Ultra High Ultra Ultra Ultra Even with Temporal SMAA and MHBAO outside the stadium in car theres lot of drops. Max Vram usage 99,2%, so it looks like problem with memory. Great game, but looks like another one poorly ported from retarded consoles.....  update: with texture set to HIGH vram usage 97% texture to MEDIUM only 80% and really smooth gameplay... PS borderless mode doesn't change a thing
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 04:23:57
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Well, but the performance of watch dogs is in discussion here.. not BSOD and pagefile, pagefile isn't going to help me to have better performance in watch dogs..
You can lead a horse to water..... I understand the frustration of spending tons of money on the best gear and things don't go well with a highly anticipated title (which is more often the case, especially for SLI users) , but getting snippy because the advice given isn't an instant fix I've never really understood....even when I've been guilty of doing it.... What's being suggested is sound advice, and something you will likely need at some point. As for poor performance in Watchdogs, time is most likely the answer for most of us....in time Ubisoft will roll out patches, Nvidia will improve drivers, and the community will come up with some work arounds and mods. Things will likely be better within a week, things will likely be good within a month, and things will be great in 3-6 months+. Honestly when was the last major release that didn't have major issues period, let alone for multi GPU rigs? IME Ubi is one of the worst at launch, though they do seem to be quicker about fixing major game breaking bugs than others.
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 04:49:59
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For me dedicated Nvidia settings are future wish list for my 780Ti sli OC with i7 4.6GHz
780 Ti SLI - 4xTXAA HBAO+ (High) On Ultra Ultra High Ultra Ultra Ultra
Even with Temporal SMAA and MHBAO outside the stadium in car theres lot of drops. Max Vram usage 99,2%, so it looks like problem with memory. Great game, but looks like another one poorly ported from retarded consoles.....
PS borderless mode doesn't change a thing
i tried removing gforce experience and my sound card and still the same stuttering ! i think will hold playing the game till they release a new patch or something
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 09:40:25
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So is the final thought that the Stuttering is related to the VRAM on the GTX 780's being only 3GB??? If so, why is the stuttering worse on SLI than not... and, if that is really the reason, then I am bummed that I spent so much money on cards that already max out the VRAM. Don't flame me about it... I am just bummed if that is the case. We'll see....
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 10:13:22
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So is the final thought that the Stuttering is related to the VRAM on the GTX 780's being only 3GB??? If so, why is the stuttering worse on SLI than not... and, if that is really the reason, then I am bummed that I spent so much money on cards that already max out the VRAM. Don't flame me about it... I am just bummed if that is the case. We'll see....
i think its the VRAM pushing the settings to ultra eats up the RAM , by the way having SLI doesnt mean u have 6 GB of VRAM ..each card process its VRAM alone , i have 780 ti SC in SLI and the game is stuttering like hell
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Re: watch dogs running very bad with SLI ! with GTX 780TI
2014/05/28 12:13:06
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well, I just got done playing a full evening and all of this morning on my setup. 0 issues still. No stuttering or lag. Smooth framerate throughout the entire game map so far.........780ti's in SLI......I do have Gsync though..........but the game played plenty smooth with the 2 780ti's and a 4770k, no OCing. And yes textures set to ultra, using 4x TXAA.
So how can I play this game smoothly with no crashes, bugs or framerate issues and others here can't? I know one thing, U sure wouldn't be playing this game at Ultra settings on 1440p or higher.......people seem to forget that 1440p is nearly double 1080p for megapixels................you aint playing this game with max settings at 1440p with a pair of 780's and expecting buttery smoothness.............especially without a Gsync monitor.
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