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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 21:57:48 (permalink)
    Wait, What? So they're going after the people who LEGALLY REGISTERED THEM?!?!
     
    If this is legit, Then here it comes.. .hehe.. smart people who didn't register them though.


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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 22:35:39 (permalink)
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 22:39:48 (permalink)
    This article is written exactly like your typical Facebook chain letter.  There's probably a reason the media isn't covering it, and it has nothing to with the "media has been gagged ordered" or "emails and instant messages" being deleted before they arrive.  Then again, his "source" and "friend" probably know more than everyone else.
     
    To quote a part of the first paragraph, "In fact I spent the last two days trying to find a source to collaborate what I am saying now. I found none."  It certainly sounds that way (despite claiming another website as the source for the article).

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 22:50:44 (permalink)
    That website is funny.  The only thing of interest is the credit card knife they have for sale.

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 22:51:54 (permalink)
    First paragraph:
    "In fact I spent the last two days trying to find a source to collaborate what I am saying now. I found none."
     
    That says it all, it's kind of hard to collaborate a made up story.
     
     
    This is even better:
    "The media also has been gag ordered, and this is bigger than just this. People are having emails and instant messages deleted before they arrive to their destination. People just like you."
     
    But somehow, even with the supposed gag order, this article seems to have been put out on the internet without any problems at all...
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 23:00:52 (permalink)
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/26 23:02:48 (permalink)
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    In other "news"
     



    That can't be true, they've had Chelsea for over 30 years.
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 10:54:12 (permalink)
    I just had a visit from my sister who lives in CT only 1 town over from Newtown and she has confirmed that they are attempting to confiscate guns there.  I haven't read this article and won't comment as to the validity of everything contained therein, but just because it has been sensationalized doesn't mean it's not at least in part true.



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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 11:44:28 (permalink)
    I googled it and yes it's true on numerous accounts. There are more than a few articals about it. And law abiding citizens are becoming felons. Sad day, let's hope this infection doesn't spread across the face of the second amendment any further. And gets beaten into oblivion.

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 11:51:47 (permalink)
    If this is true which it probably is not because I know for a fact there would be tons of officers dead on the ground and basically a warzone but if it is the WAR HAS BEGUN. It's true I edited this to say I have verified... those in Connecticut care more about other things than their rights.. Go to my home state of West Virginia and try this... bodies will be everywhere...
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 12:01:30 (permalink)
    Reading between the lines, it sounds like they're targeting guns that owners have that are outside of what laws allow in that state. If they find them they charge them with a felony making it illegal for them to have guns. Sounds like an interesting catch 22 there. Make a certain aspect of certain guns illegal and those that kept those guns in the now illegal capacity are targeted and all their guns are taken and the person is charged. I saw something in the article about "grandfathered in". How does one "grandfather in" something to get around anything? Is there even any grandfather clause to the gun legislation in that state or are they just assuming they can?
     
    I think a lot of my question centers on if warrants were issued and were the warrants specific or some abuse that was a blanket search? It's not like they can just state that they want a warrant to randomly search any house in the state without evidence.
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 12:05:07 (permalink)
    The thing is if they have warrants they can only take what is on the warrant if they something thats not on it that means hands off... Of course this is the ATF... We need the FBI to get involved... J Hoover put secret programs in place to eliminate threats to the constitution if you guys get where I'm going...

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 13:17:15 (permalink)
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    If this is true which it probably is not because I know for a fact there would be tons of officers dead on the ground and basically a warzone but if it is the WAR HAS BEGUN. It's true I edited this to say I have verified... those in Connecticut care more about other things than their rights.. Go to my home state of West Virginia and try this... bodies will be everywhere...



     
    Makes me laugh.
     
    In our society today it would be a very short war.  A shooting battle in our streets against the government is not going to be like COD or BF4, I enjoy those games but take it from someone who has seen combat it is not something you ever want to experience especially when your family is there standing next to you.
     
    #1  Our enemy is not stupid, you should not under estimate them.  Why would they come to your home for confiscation?  If you are an offender on their list they could just as easily pick you up at work or enroute, then march you to either your home to get what they want or to jail.  The state and federal government has way too many ways to make your life very difficult without knocking on your door to take your gun. 
     
    #2  Most who have the assault weapons they are looking for simply have too much too loose to fight what would be a very short fight.  The "man" knocks on your door while you and the family are eating dinner, are you going to start a gun battle with them with your family in the background?
     
    #3  I am very well armed and received excellent training during my time in the Army and have kept up by taking tactical shooting classes at least twice a year along with quite a bit of shooting.  But I know what my chances of walking away from a shooting confrontation with a prepared LE force serving a warrant to what they would assume to be a dangerous target = zero.  Now give me time to prepare and a heads up of when they are coming, much better chances but that is not going to happen.
     
    Our only chance to stop this movement is the peaceful revolution we have during every election cycle.  Way too many internet tough guys out there talking about being a patriot and taking on the government in a shooting battle, absolutely crazy.

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 13:22:56 (permalink)
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    If this is true which it probably is not because I know for a fact there would be tons of officers dead on the ground and basically a warzone but if it is the WAR HAS BEGUN. It's true I edited this to say I have verified... those in Connecticut care more about other things than their rights.. Go to my home state of West Virginia and try this... bodies will be everywhere...



     
    Makes me laugh.
     
    In our society today it would be a very short war.  A shooting battle in our streets against the government is not going to be like COD or BF4, I enjoy those games but take it from someone who has seen combat it is not something you ever want to experience especially when your family is there standing next to you.
     
    #1  Our enemy is not stupid, you should not under estimate them.  Why would they come to your home for confiscation?  If you are an offender on their list they could just as easily pick you up at work or enroute, then march you to either your home to get what they want or to jail.  The state and federal government has way too many ways to make your life very difficult without knocking on your door to take your gun. 
     
    #2  Most who have the assault weapons they are looking for simply have too much too loose to fight what would be a very short fight.  The "man" knocks on your door while you and the family are eating dinner, are you going to start a gun battle with them with your family in the background?
     
    #3  I am very well armed and received excellent training during my time in the Army and have kept up by taking tactical shooting classes at least twice a year along with quite a bit of shooting.  But I know what my chances of walking away from a shooting confrontation with a prepared LE force serving a warrant to what they would assume to be a dangerous target = zero.  Now give me time to prepare and a heads up of when they are coming, much better chances but that is not going to happen.
     
    Our only chance to stop this movement is the peaceful revolution we have during every election cycle.  Way too many internet tough guys out there talking about being a patriot and taking on the government in a shooting battle, absolutely crazy.


    That is assuming I am an internet tough guy, I am not trained well, and I wouldn't do it with my family right there...
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 16:44:56 (permalink)
    thank god I live and Texas, and thank god Texas declared itself a sovereign state.
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 19:18:58 (permalink)
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    thank god I live and Texas, and thank god Texas declared itself a sovereign state.




     
    That is true though I lived in Colorado 20 years ago and it was still very gun friendly, much like the wild west it was very common to see people open carrying.  Now look what they have.
     
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 19:47:56 (permalink)



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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 20:14:35 (permalink)
    Where exactly do they define what they consider a 'long gun' to be? That description could be anything at least with how they're talking about it. With that, where do you draw the line? A .44 scoped can be a lot more accurate at range than some rifles, so I'm curious what all would be 'offending'.
     
    Second, no offense intended but you can't trust the word coming from public officials like that.
     
    Finally @ clo007, that bald dude at the end of the video is a bleeding image of Hitman.
     
     

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 20:30:40 (permalink)
    Regardless of whether CT is going door to door or not, I'm glad to live in a state that fully supports the second amendment and  to live in a county where the Sheriff has already stated publicly that he will not enforce any law passed by congress that violates the second amendment.



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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 20:38:20 (permalink)
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    Regardless of whether CT is going door to door or not, I'm glad to live in a state that fully supports the second amendment and  to live in a county where the Sheriff has already stated publicly that he will not enforce any law passed by congress that violates the second amendment.


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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/27 21:43:42 (permalink)
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    Where exactly do they define what they consider a 'long gun' to be? That description could be anything at least with how they're talking about it. With that, where do you draw the line? A .44 scoped can be a lot more accurate at range than some rifles, so I'm curious what all would be 'offending'.
     
    Second, no offense intended but you can't trust the word coming from public officials like that.
     
    Finally @ clo007, that bald dude at the end of the video is a bleeding image of Hitman.

    long gun is any non-shot gun over 16inches with a buttstock.
     
    and any time any government official says "don't worry about that" worry your butt off. when its in their favor that gray area is always black and red to them. they have already sent letters to those people who they say they gave an extension to saying they we denied and needed to sell, destroy or turn them in. its not out right confiscation but close enough. 


     
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 02:25:11 (permalink)
    Knew this was fake before the rest of the comments poured in. You think it'd make news by now if this REALLY happened?
     
    "Civil war starts in Connecticut"
     
    Come on people


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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 05:15:19 (permalink)
    Dire read my post, that information i can confirm first hand. I've seen the letters and the applications that were denied for being late (which if you note the extension dates they gave all official offices were closed) minor typos and clerical errors with no way to resubmit and comply. I'm not saying this is war i'm just stating they are being screwed like only government and banks know how with catch 22s(pun intended).


     
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 06:27:36 (permalink)
    Not sure whether to believe it or not, but I know NJ is considering the same legislation that Conn already passed. That makes me think they would rather get a large legal foot hold, then pull something like that. Pulling that kinda action now will severely cripple every other states ability to do something similar. Theres no doubt though....its coming! Being all the brilliant WW2 German combatants were brought to a few select countries to do there research, it doesn't surprise me that were seeing the same thing again, in more than one way.
     
    EDIT: This looks pretty interesting: Georgia is calling for a Constitutional Convention of States to restore power back to the states and pull the reigns in on the Feds overreaching. http://www.newsmax.com/Ne.../2014/03/07/id/556729/
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 06:29:34 (permalink)
    Connecticut need to clean house.

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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 07:46:03 (permalink)
    Do you guys think California will do this with the newly passed law?
     
    The only difference is, If you already owned a gun, you don't need to register it. Only newly purchased long guns will need to be registered.


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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 08:03:53 (permalink)
    Conn has a new law that starts the 4/1 that all gun transfers will need a state bg check. The law already passed required reg of all greater then 10rd mags and labeled assault rifles.


     
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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 08:10:30 (permalink)
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    Conn has a new law that starts the 4/1 that all gun transfers will need a state bg check. The law already passed required reg of all greater then 10rd mags and labeled assault rifles.



    I'm sure they will deny 90% of them... That is terrible.


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    Re: ATF is taking guns from citizens in CT going door to door... Right now 2014/03/28 09:44:53 (permalink)
    Give it a few days and we will here about it....  I wonder if Michael Savage will talk about this?  Cannot wait!!!!

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