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These instructions will help setup and manage Folding@home SMP clients on HP Cloud Servers from a Windows 7 system. View Getting Started with HP Cloud Services for more information about HP Cloud Services and signup here.

This assumes you already have access to HP Cloud Services private beta and have created servers. I used Ubuntu 10.10 (64-bit) on two standard.2xlarge and one standard.xlarge servers. I created another thread to setup and monitor the SMP clients with HFM.NET.
 
Create a new folder called PuTTY on your Windows 7 system. Save all files to this location.

Download PuTTY and PuTTYgen.
http://the.earth.li/~sgta...y/latest/x86/putty.exe
http://the.earth.li/~sgta...atest/x86/puttygen.exe

Go to https://manage.hpcloud.com/compute/ select Manage Servers and follow the Creating a Key Pair instructions. I named the Key Pairs (.pem file) after the compute cluster location because only one key is needed for each compute cluster location (US West 2 - AZ2 and US West 2 - AZ1 or az-1.region-a.geo-1 and az-2.region-a.geo-1).  
 
Open PuTTYgen and select Conversions and Import Key. Select the Key Pair (.pem file) you created and then select Save private key. Ignore the warning.
I saved the files as USWest2-AZ2.ppk and USWest2-AZ1.ppk because only one key is needed for each compute cluster location.
Close PuTTYgen.

Copy your server's Public IP address.

Open PuTTY.
Paste your server's Public IP address into the Host Name (or IP address) field.

Expand SSH under Connection and select Auth.
Select Browse under Private key field for authentication and select your private key USWest2-AZ2.ppk or USWest2-AZ1.ppk

Select Session, enter the server's Public IP  address under Saved Sessions and select Save.

Select Open and yes on the Security Alert.
Logon as root
 
Update the OS and installed the SMP client with the following commands.
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade -y
mkdir -p /folding
cd /folding
wget www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz
tar xzf FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz
chmod +x fah6
Start the SMP client with the following command. Replace the # with 4 or 8 depending on the number of vCPU you're using. Ensure you enter your username, team # 111065 and your passkey.
screen ./fah6 -smp # 
screen allows us to enter new commands and close PuTTy while keeping the SMP client running.

After the SMP client is running hold the Crtl key down and press A then D to detach the screen. Always detach the screen before you close PuTTy.

Enter screen -r if you need to return to the SMP client.
 
Right-click on the PuTTy window and select Close to end the session. If you Saved your Sessions you will be able to simply double-click on the Saved Session name when you open PuTTy. Remember to logon as root and enter screen -r to return to the SMP client if needed.
 
I added the additional information for those that are not familiar with Linux and the CLI.
Use the following commands to navigate to the folding directory and start the SMP client.
  cd /folding
screen ./fah6 -smp #
  Ctrl+C will shutdown the SMP client.

The reboot command will restart the system. Type reboot, press Enter and wait a couple minutes for the system to restart. Right-click on the Putty window and select Restart Session. If you receive “Network error: Connection timed out” then you didn’t wait long enough.

 
The top command will show you running tasks. It's like the Task Manager in Windows. Press Ctrl+C to exit.
cat /proc/cpuinfo will display your CPU information. 
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 02:08:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for the instructions! Just realized that HPCS is free during it's beta run...might give this a try. 
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 02:42:28 (permalink)
    What CPU potential do they give you during the beta?
     
    two standard.2xlarge and one standard.xlarge servers

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 04:46:19 (permalink)
    cat /proc/cpuinfo reports 2.5Ghz CPUs . 2xlarge has 8 cores and xlarge has 4 cores..
     

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 06:04:38 (permalink)
    Signed up for the beta even though your explanation is chinese to me. I'll figure it out 
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    HP sent me this:

    Thanks for your interest in the HP Cloud Services private beta and for completing the sign-up. The response to our private beta has been great, and we’ve already reached the initial target number of participants. We will certainly keep you informed as beta access becomes available.

     
      
     
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 06:08:33 (permalink)
    Wow, so you have 20 cores in total, I assume that's what they give you and you can share teh 20 cores out however you like? Not sure but in any case that must be netting you some serious PPD. Also I signed up but they say private beta slots attained so I assume they won't accept any new applications.

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 06:17:45 (permalink)
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    Wow, so you have 20 cores in total, I assume that's what they give you and you can share teh 20 cores out however you like? Not sure but in any case that must be netting you some serious PPD. Also I signed up but they say private beta slots attained so I assume they won't accept any new applications.


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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 06:43:10 (permalink)
    I added some pretty pictures to help.
    Sleinous  Wow, so you have 20 cores in total, I assume that's what they give you and you can share teh 20 cores out however you like? Not sure but in any case that must be netting you some serious PPD. Also I signed up but they say private beta slots attained so I assume they won't accept any new applications.
    The hardware profiles are already configured and we select from the drop-down list. Hopefully we're allowed to make custom profiles in the future. Like when they start charging. It will be interesting to see the PPD performance. I signed up whenever HPCS started folding and received the invite yesterday.

      
       
     
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 07:35:20 (permalink)
    Nice guide there david, I applied for testing. Let's see if I get to try this baby . Have you managed to get a PPD estimate from the 3 servers you're provided with?


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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 07:51:59 (permalink)
    My PPD was 9K. I'm anxiously awaiting the results.
    http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=524047

      
       
     
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 08:07:50 (permalink)
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    I added some pretty pictures to help.
    Sleinous  Wow, so you have 20 cores in total, I assume that's what they give you and you can share teh 20 cores out however you like? Not sure but in any case that must be netting you some serious PPD. Also I signed up but they say private beta slots attained so I assume they won't accept any new applications.
    The hardware profiles are already configured and we select from the drop-down list. Hopefully we're allowed to make custom profiles in the future. Like when they start charging. It will be interesting to see the PPD performance. I signed up whenever HPCS started folding and received the invite yesterday.

    Ah yes, however I mean how many of those 8 cores and 4 core profiles are you allowed to make?
     
    Have you been able to measure how much PPD you're making from those 3 profiles?
     
    EDIT: Woops just saw your reply, 9K for all 3 combined? That seems a tad low :(

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 08:12:49 (permalink)
    I could only make 2x 8 core profiles and a 4 core profile before but I figured out how to make 3 more. Now I have a total of 6 (4 x 8core and 2 x 4core). My PPD was 9K from a GPU client b4. I'm waiting to see what happens over the next couple of days. I'm already up to 25,399 today (01.19, 9am update).
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 10:29:13 (permalink)
    Ok hang on a sec :P Coz i'm very confused. 9K from a GPU? I thought HP Cloud was just CPU's? Also 25K points but have you been folding anywhere else other than on the cloud?
     
    EDIT: Ohhh do you mean 9K before you started the cloud?

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 13:22:41 (permalink)
    The GPU client is running on a spare PC at my house. I'm typing on it now. Look at my stats an you will see there's almost a straight line at 9K. I already have 45,781 today (01.19.12 3pm update).
     

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 13:31:27 (permalink)
    I assume you doubled the number of CPUs by using AZ1 as well as AZ2, although the email I received mentioned something about only using AZ2, not sure though.
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 16:24:41 (permalink)
    Correct. I contacted support and I think they're going to restrict access to AZ1. I think old accounts were restricted at some point in the past but new accounts were still given access.
     
    Things have been going good so far. Hopefully the final product allows us to create custom hardware profiles and of course for reasonable prices. I like having 8 cores but don't need 32GB of RAM or a 960GB HD.

      
       
     
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/19 21:25:03 (permalink)
    This definately sounds interesting, paying people to do the dirty work haha. Takes some of the fun out of folding imo but it could definately be used to give you a boost during Chimp Challenge and stuff. 




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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/20 01:54:00 (permalink)
    It might not be as fun for some people but it could make CPU folding more fun for me. Less noise, heat, electricity and hardware issues. I have been using Ubuntu 10.10 so not much changes there but I'm learning new things in the process. The final price & performance will be the determining factors.

      
       
     
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/21 15:29:14 (permalink)
    Ugh, I gave up trying to get PuTTY to work; so I just installed Ubuntu as a VM 

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/21 17:00:12 (permalink)
    What didn't work with PuTTy? The instructions should be pretty straightforward and the setup shouldn't take long. Maybe I need to clarify something or add more screenshots. Ubuntu is great but I didn't want to setup a VM just to SSH on my primary system. I like the results too. I really hope the final product is cost-effective.
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/22 12:53:02 (permalink)
    What kind of PPD are you getting?




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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/22 16:23:06 (permalink)
    55-65K from 3 servers or Running Instance as HPCS likes to call them.

      
       
     
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/22 16:50:07 (permalink)
    I'm still waiting for my beta invite 
    One of their community managers promised me a code 2-3 days ago and still nothing..
    I wonder what the cost will be in the final version 

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/23 00:03:02 (permalink)
    Hopefully affordable with custom profiles.

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/23 11:06:20 (permalink)
    Nice guide.  Anyone else have this running that can post avg PPD?  I haven't been able to get in yet but am seriously considering this if the price is right.  I had 4 gpu's going in my small room and the heat is bad even in the winter.  Sleinous your rigs could probably heat a small community!

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/23 13:18:22 (permalink)
    Just got everything configured - thank you Sleinous for the help!
    PPD wise, 1 8 core gets around 28K PPD, another one 24K and a 4 core one I don't know yet..

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/23 15:59:06 (permalink)
    I just got an invite from HP on my initial application and fired up the same three systems as in OP. Thanks for the guide!
     
    I should be getting 55-65K PPD through this. Hope it lasts long! :D
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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/23 20:59:00 (permalink)
    Just got my invite, too . I'll try to do whatever I can from here (I'm at work currently), but if my restricted account doesn't allow me to I'll finish it when I get home in 8 hours. Now time for some fun . Thanks again david12857 for the guide .


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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/24 00:31:53 (permalink)
    Yeah i'm getting around 25K per 8 core and 9-10K PPD on the core. If you pick up the big SMP you get qround 28K PPD on teh 8 core and 10K on the 4 core.
     
    Hopefully they will create a 16 core profile because then a bigadv can be launched on there.

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    Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/24 13:58:05 (permalink)
    Yeah, it's making a big difference between WU's. My 8-cores are getting around 16-17K now each, and the 4-core is getting close to 10K. So total is like 42K. If lucky, the 8-cores would pick up a big WU and get 27-28K each.
     
    At the end, the performance of the three machines I configured is 42-65K. Not bad at all! 
     
    Thanks for the guide again, I'd have no idea how to start with this otherwise! 
     
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