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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/30 10:21:33 (permalink)
It doesn't matter to me either, I will be using the board if I send mine. But since yours is not in use and has a bent pin, it would probably be wiser if you sent it. That way if UPS, Fed-Ex or USPS decide to play soccer with the shipping item lol. Had it done to me in the past, either way just let me know if I am to send mine. That way I can put in the mail on Monday and we can get started, I am so excited and not sure if I said it but + one for mono block. Lets do this!!
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/30 12:51:52 (permalink)
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I ended up going with the ASUS X99-M WS. I was going to sell my Micro2 but I slightly bent one of the CPU pins while testing so I don't feel comfortable selling it so I just having sitting around.


maybe I can bend it back?  


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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/30 16:06:01 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter to me either, I will be using the board if I send mine. But since yours is not in use and has a bent pin, it would probably be wiser if you sent it. That way if UPS, Fed-Ex or USPS decide to play soccer with the shipping item lol.

 
That's a good point. I'll go ahead and volunteer mine then.

nateman_doo
maybe I can bend it back?  


I already did, but it's noticeable so it won't be covered under warranty so that's why I don't want to sell it.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/30 16:32:41 (permalink)
if you identify it before selling, and if it works... its still sellable. 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/30 19:14:09 (permalink)
True it is still resalable, what were you thinking of asking?? If for any reason it dose not work out and you can't send your board just let me know And I will send mine. Thanks for volunteering up your board.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/30 20:37:44 (permalink)
I'll be mailing it out Monday. Reason I don't want to sell it is because I'd rather have it as a backup to my ASUS rather than sell it for cheap.
post edited by Aibohphobia - 2016/01/30 20:47:40
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/01/31 10:40:30 (permalink)
I agree with you one hundred %, it is always good to have a back up. I lost my computer for school and was without one for a week or more, so having a back up dang good idea. Thanks again and I can't wait to see the first results.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 06:17:10 (permalink)
I'm actually wondering... would you plan to design the block in such a way that it will cool the M.2 slot as well?
 
That would be a really good solution for cooling throttling M.2 drive like 950 PRO.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 16:44:38 (permalink)
until i am sitting in front of the board, and the gears are turning I have no idea.  I can design a board that will cool every single component of the board, and have a slab of copper that weighs 5 lbs.  It will be tons of money, but it will be the first entire board cooling solution.  There has to be a balance between price and performance.  The block will perform, that much I know (anything is better then stock cooling) but a full block like the Stinger block wont be cheap.  However the CPU block I designed would be incorporated, and it performs within 3° of the best performing blocks out there.
 
Nice thing about having the 10 people, is you guys get to vote.  if it goes the monoblock route, you all get to vote, but that will be more expensive. 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 16:45:39 (permalink)
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I'm actually wondering... would you plan to design the block in such a way that it will cool the M.2 slot as well?
 
That would be a really good solution for cooling throttling M.2 drive like 950 PRO.


cooling what exactly?

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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 16:47:58 (permalink)
m.2 ssd.
 
Goes inbetween the top and second pcie slot.
 
 

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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 16:59:54 (permalink)

 
Here is a quick draft of a possibility.  I can put the input above the CPU, and the exit by the 2nd PCI-E slot.  The drawback... you will need to watercool your GPU.  Is that really a drawback?  I have yet to see someone watercool a chipset without having the GPU watercooled.  A far more realistic drawback is the loss of the use of that motherboard hole.  its not the end of the world, I have secured motherboards without all the screw holes being occupied over the years, so if you guys are ok with that  (and i can channel the water over there) then its possible.
 
It will require a sandwich of copper bottom, thick delrin center, and a delrin topper.
 
Thoughts?  
 
OR, we just do individual small blocks for the chipsets.
 
 

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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 17:06:50 (permalink)
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m.2 ssd.
 
Goes inbetween the top and second pcie slot.
 
 



its "possible".
 
i would need a larger plate on the bottom.  It wouldn't be directly watercooled, but the heat would leave the SSD fo through thermal tape into copper and travel to the right and get sucked out there.  I would have to leave some substantial margins for error and make it up with THICK thermal tape.  
 
Again, its "possible".  You would all have to sign off on it.
like so:

The red would be the plastic sandwich.  So this copper plate would just kind of "hang out there"
 
I could extend the delrin cover just to make it all black, but again, until I am sitting in front of it...

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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 17:14:12 (permalink)
I got the board mailed out today so hopefully it won't be too long before the planning can really kick into gear :)
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 17:17:44 (permalink)
For the m.2 I don't think it would really need to be water cooled.
Just throwing a few mini copper heatsinks on them reduces the significantly.
 
Even the intel PCIE m.2 cards have passive cooling on them.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 17:19:29 (permalink)
I haven't really ever considered doing a customer loop - but I do want the x99, and with all your work ive seen Nate_man_doo, I think I'm seriously considering it.
 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 17:34:50 (permalink)
I'd be quite happy with that monoblock solution, looks close to what I was expecting, personally I'll be watercooling the GPU aswell so I'm all ok with that.  Got to admit I'm not sure about cooling the m.2, its a nice idea and would be a unique feature but unless it was covered with delrin as you say, it would spoil the look, without even mentioning the added cost. Guess its hard to judge until you have a board and can look more deeply into it but I'll keep an open mind to it so I'm neither for or against it at the moment.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 20:26:00 (permalink)
I like the idea of a mono block.  Any chance of making it with a clear acrylic top?  would be cool to see the fluid after adding some LED in there to light stuff up in a case.   
 
M.2 looks cool but I agree it can be cooled with a few heatsinks itself.  
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/01 23:55:23 (permalink)
A monoblock that cools the CPU too? Would such a design increases the chance of damaging the CPU? 
 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/02 00:39:38 (permalink)
I to would like the mono block, I also don't care about price just need to get my system built. But do you think you could make it enter at the cpu, travel the chip set and exit out the vrm's by the rear I/O?? I am water cooling my graphics cards but doing a duel loop set up. I don't think the m.2 needs water also, I used Fujipoly XR-M on mine and it works grate.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/02 02:22:03 (permalink)
I think the idea of monoblock looks cool, however I am more towards to idea of small chipset blocks simply because I am not sure how Nateman's CPU block solution stack against the Supremacy EVO?
 
So based around that concern, I am leaning towards having two separate blocks, just like the ones nateman did for the X99 Classified, which pairs really well with the Supremacy EVO Acetal design.
 
On a side note, for illustration purposes, cooling the M.2 drive with the block will look like this: Bitspower EVGA X99 waterblock 
 
IMO, if the PCH block can cover the M.2 slot too, that will look a lot more uniform than having copper heatsink sticking out from the M.2 drive and have a much more unique look.
 
I think it would be fair to poll a vote on this when nateman can come up with a rough estimation on cost for the different solutions? (Monoblock vs Mosfet & PCH block vs Mosfet & PCH & M.2 compatible block)
 
Hope this can get discussion going :)
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/02 04:48:12 (permalink)
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I think the idea of monoblock looks cool, however I am more towards to idea of small chipset blocks simply because I am not sure how Nateman's CPU block solution stack against the Supremacy EVO?
 

someone didn't do their research when choosing an installer?  tsk tsk...
Here is the CPU block that I made:
http://forums.evga.com/Request-for-20113-Nateman-CPU-Block-m2269270-p5.aspx#2324716
I will use the same basic design.
 
Here are how it stacks up against top competitor blocks:
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2334932
 
1.72°C temp diff (in favor of the EVO) but my blocks lack of flow restriction creamed them all.  
 
as for the SSD "wings" thats also an option for a similar look.  Painting them matte black with gun-coating looks nice and cuts down on oxidation, and goes well with black delrin.  Same concept as the bitspower, heat radiates into the copper wing, and gets removed by the section of copper under water.  
 
So everyone so far cool with losing that screw hole to secure the motherboard? 
 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/02 07:34:50 (permalink)
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deFiniLoGy
I think the idea of monoblock looks cool, however I am more towards to idea of small chipset blocks simply because I am not sure how Nateman's CPU block solution stack against the Supremacy EVO?
 

someone didn't do their research when choosing an installer?  tsk tsk...
Here is the CPU block that I made:
http://forums.evga.com/Request-for-20113-Nateman-CPU-Block-m2269270-p5.aspx#2324716
I will use the same basic design.
 
Here are how it stacks up against top competitor blocks:
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2334932
 
1.72°C temp diff (in favor of the EVO) but my blocks lack of flow restriction creamed them all.  
 
as for the SSD "wings" thats also an option for a similar look.  Painting them matte black with gun-coating looks nice and cuts down on oxidation, and goes well with black delrin.  Same concept as the bitspower, heat radiates into the copper wing, and gets removed by the section of copper under water.  
 
So everyone so far cool with losing that screw hole to secure the motherboard? 
 




Ah~ I did not dig through the thread in your sig that's why I did not see the testing.
 
In that case I have no objection over monoblock design, but I still would prefer having a M.2 wing as that can give a even more uniform look.
 
Regarding the screw hole, I have no objection over losing that :)
 
Thanks nateman!
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/02 09:47:27 (permalink)
The Bitspower full cover block dosn't cool the m.2 very well if at all, my cover plate is just powder coated aluminium and I had to remove my m.2 and put it on a pcie card, the block is on my x99 classified mobo. I also found some nickel plated low profile and black anodized low profile copper heat sinks, that way you don't have to see the copper in it's natural color Just saying. Yes water cooling it would be cool but I don't think it would be necessary, plus to many variables to consider size shape. Plus the only thing supporting the M.2 is the socket and that little screw at the end, any way no matter the out come the block will be amazing and I can't wait the see some pictures.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/03 14:16:16 (permalink)
Board is now in my hands, and will start the drafting process.  
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/03 14:21:04 (permalink)
Damn that was quick! Good job Aibohphobia.
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/03 16:58:02 (permalink)
Gotta keep the USPS in business 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/03 20:06:31 (permalink)
A super rough sketch of the dual blocks.  Just super basic to show outlines and where they would sit.  This will be the least expensive option and give you the option to pick your own CPU block.  
 

 
A mono block will add a CPU plate, and a very thick Delrin layer to act as a sort of manifold for the water to run through.  Also the price could double.  These dual blocks I can bang out with relative ease.  A mono-block will take much more time and precision tolerances to get all the layers to match perfectly.  Not outside the realms of my capabilities, but just time consuming.
 
Your thoughts? 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/04 00:16:23 (permalink)
I vote for dual blocks. 
 
Will we've clearance issue for RAM blocks?
 
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Re: X99 Micro 2 Waterblock 2016/02/04 00:22:53 (permalink)
Yes that was fast shipping, hats off to you sir. Mr. Nateman_doo could you give a rough estimate between duel blocks vs mono? 
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