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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/11 17:54:33 (permalink)
I still have not gotten my spare BIOS chip...can't do any more work on my end until it comes...also, I was rebuilding my whole system this week trying to resolve some SSD issues.  I'll keep you guys posted.
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/11 17:57:34 (permalink)
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I still have not gotten my spare BIOS chip...can't do any more work on my end until it comes...also, I was rebuilding my whole system this week trying to resolve some SSD issues.  I'll keep you guys posted.

 
Hmm what issues are you experiencing bro?
 
Also any eta when that chip will get to ya? XD The suspense here is killing me...

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/11 19:37:54 (permalink)
Hi everyone, this is my first post!  I have been working on implementing the newest RAID ROM into our BIOS also, with no luck yet.  I know that doesn't help anyone right now but have some chips and a chip programmer from replacing BIOS chips on a laptops and would like to help if anyone has gotten any farther.  I have the E760 board and could program a chip and swap it out to test any mods.  In looking at the BIOS I think the Award decompression BIOS within the system BIOS needs to be rewritten to be able to decompress the larger ROM file over 64k as dejanh has verified it won't load beyond that point. 
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/11 20:06:24 (permalink)
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Hi everyone, this is my first post!  I have been working on implementing the newest RAID ROM into our BIOS also, with no luck yet.  I know that doesn't help anyone right now but have some chips and a chip programmer from replacing BIOS chips on a laptops and would like to help if anyone has gotten any farther.  I have the E760 board and could program a chip and swap it out to test any mods.  In looking at the BIOS I think the Award decompression BIOS within the system BIOS needs to be rewritten to be able to decompress the larger ROM file over 64k as dejanh has verified it won't load beyond that point. 

 

 
Where've you been all my life hot stuff???
 
I think you and Dejahn ought to work together and teach EVA some new tricks. two minds are always better than one.
 
Please do keep us posted...oh and welcome to the forums!
 
EDIT: BTW, in the official bios section Jacob F has reiterated that AWARD issue and has said that EVA is workin directly with them to see about removing that limit.
 
EVGA_JacobF

Hey guys,

We are still working on this. We have tried several ways to implement this, but still no solution at the moment.

We are working directly with Award on a solution.

-Jacob

 
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/12 19:52:23 (permalink)
We should really have a MOD member sticky this thread

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 00:51:18 (permalink)
Alucard666

We should really have a MOD member sticky this thread


I doubt they'll wanna sticky a thread that shows forum members proving their BIOS team wrong and making more progress than them, hehe.

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 06:28:04 (permalink)
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Alucard666

We should really have a MOD member sticky this thread


I doubt they'll wanna sticky a thread that shows forum members proving their BIOS team wrong and making more progress than them, hehe.

 
It's not even about that. This thread is helping their customers better than they are capable of right now, and if it weren't for Dejahn and users like him/this thread I know that myself and a few other users would have abandoned their EVGA boards already and gone to another vendor instead.

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 07:48:58 (permalink)
FYI - I just bought a new Gigabyte X58A-UD5 board last night, and successfully flashed in both the latest AHCI and RAID Rom's to the latest no problem.
 
Definitely appears to be the way in which EVGA has setup their bios.

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 07:53:02 (permalink)
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FYI - I just bought a new Gigabyte X58A-UD5 board last night, and successfully flashed in both the latest AHCI and RAID Rom's to the latest no problem.

Definitely appears to be the way in which EVGA has setup their bios.

 

 
That really disappoints me.... -sigh- EVGA better get something off the back burner and out to the public.
 
Come on EVGA you're loosing your customers!

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 07:55:52 (permalink)
I doubt they loose customers.
In thread 
 
customer-- 
 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=838804
 
there were only 5-6 customers ready to leave the party... so no worries for EVGA.
 
 

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 08:11:15 (permalink)
mipko

I doubt they loose customers.
In thread 

customer-- 

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=838804

there were only 5-6 customers ready to leave the party... so no worries for EVGA.


 
Never came across that thread.... just posted.
 
Thanks.
 


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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 08:39:04 (permalink)
In my opinion, and flame me all you want, all manufacturers have their issues.
 
Sadly, the quality of both products and support seem to be going the wrong direction across the entire industry.
 
I came over to eVGA from Asus mainly because of the (lack of) technical support. I even had one Asus tech support guy close a ticket because I continued to press him for answers when it was apparent he either did not know or was forbidden to tell the truth. He also implied I was picking on or tying to bully him.
 
I also had to do three RMAs (a total of four Asus motherboards) before I got one that worked, albeit it was troublefree after that.
 
Short story: Caveat Emptor.
 
 

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 08:40:57 (permalink)
Arctucas you got the point. But we have to stand up and do something. Flaming on the forums is more than staying quiet.

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/13 08:56:28 (permalink)
mipko

Arctucas you got the point. But we have to stand up and do something. Flaming on the forums is more than staying quiet.

 
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/14 15:36:28 (permalink)
so you get your BIOS chip man?

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/14 16:58:54 (permalink)
 I hope they do update the bios. I have alot of money and time in my rig. Would suck to have to get another motherboard just to make full use of what I have.




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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/14 20:25:53 (permalink)
I just stumbled on this thread, does this issue affect 770 Classified as well?
 
I didn't know that this was an issue as I have been waiting for price drop/money(yay tax time!) to upgrade pc and started looking around. Been using Evga stuff for a very long time and this issue is a bit disturbing. Started using Evga after some craptastic issues with Asus, BFG, and some others, and this problem is reminiscent of why I refuse to use other companies anymore. I really hope this is addressed.


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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/14 20:44:32 (permalink)
evga look after there classified customers i have noticed this,i think we will get something worth while fingers crossed.

 
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/14 22:50:04 (permalink)
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evga look after there classified customers i have noticed this,i think we will get something worth while fingers crossed.

 
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 15:04:46 (permalink)
I got the backup chip.  Had a chance to try out the Intel AHCI ROM but there does not seem to be a way to activate it.  It just appears as though it is not even deployed with the BIOS.  The BIOS must be looking for the Phoenix ROM to load and when it does not find it, it just skips past loading of the AHCI ROM.  In simple terms, we will not be able to integrate the Intel AHCI ROM into the BIOS.
 
I also gave the updated PXE option ROM another shot.  It is conflicting with the JMB363 BIOS that controls JMicron ports 8/9 and the ATA-133 port.  If anybody wants me to integrate the newest PXE option ROM that does NOT care to use the JMicron ports 8/9 let me know and I can produce a version of the BIOS with the updated PXE.  To avoid warnings at boot you would have to disable the SATA/PATA JMicron port in the BIOS (second one in the list).
 
I ordered some new 16Mb BIOS chips instead of the stock 8Mb chip (2048KB instead of 1024KB) and will see whether moving to a larger BIOS chip will make any difference in terms of being able to load larger option ROMs.
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 15:17:23 (permalink)
@dejahn,
 
Did you happen to see this?
 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=852783

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 15:29:39 (permalink)
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@dejahn,

Did you happen to see this?

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=852783

I just looked at it now...seems suspicious to be honest...but I will give it a shot.  It looks like he just tossed in the AHCI ROM in there.  It won't error out but if you try to use it at least in my tests you got nothing at all.  Let's see what his mod does.
post edited by dejanh - 2011/02/15 15:31:59
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 15:49:08 (permalink)
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@dejahn,

Did you happen to see this?

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=852783

I just looked at it now...seems suspicious to be honest...but I will give it a shot.  It looks like he just tossed in the AHCI ROM in there.  It won't error out but if you try to use it at least in my tests you got nothing at all.  Let's see what his mod does.

 
You got any further with this mate..... greetings from Thunder bay by the way....just flew over the pond and will be on the west coast in 2 days fancy a coffee :)

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 16:00:41 (permalink)
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@dejahn,

Did you happen to see this?

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=852783

I just looked at it now...seems suspicious to be honest...but I will give it a shot.  It looks like he just tossed in the AHCI ROM in there.  It won't error out but if you try to use it at least in my tests you got nothing at all.  Let's see what his mod does.

You got any further with this mate..... greetings from Thunder bay by the way....just flew over the pond and will be on the west coast in 2 days fancy a coffee :)

I'm working on it right now.  Drop me a note when you are in the area and maybe we can meet up hehe
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 16:21:46 (permalink)
Tested the other mod and it works.  The BIOS is using Intel AHCI.  I have no clue what is the difference between the two ROMs other than the fact that I was trying the newest AHCI ROM available and it would not work.
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 16:39:41 (permalink)
Hi Dejanh , I sent my msn to work together
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 16:42:44 (permalink)
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Hi Dejanh , I sent my msn to work together

Got your MSN.  I sent an authorization request.  PM me if you did not get it
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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 17:20:02 (permalink)
you two should start a new thread for updates and such, as all of this bios editing is kind of spread out between 3 posts on the forums. Just a suggestion. Can't wait to try some new things on my FTW3!!!!

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 17:27:24 (permalink)
dejanh

Tested the other mod and it works.  The BIOS is using Intel AHCI.  I have no clue what is the difference between the two ROMs other than the fact that I was trying the newest AHCI ROM available and it would not work.

Works as in improves the RAID performance?

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Re:Modified BIOS - Use at your own risk!!! 2011/02/15 17:41:44 (permalink)
The AHCI has nothing to do with RAID.  However, as it is at least 2 years newer than the ancient Phoenix AHCI ROM it likely performs better for those running AHCI mode.
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