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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 03:16:30 (permalink)
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Well... we certainly have different ways to see things  , but I like these discussions.
Given that the K|ngP|n released much later to a select number of people that are suposed to be regulars in the forum and when everything was running for months, I found surprising the reporting numbers were that low, I mean, enewt basically turned the checkout thread into a trap for timestamps. It would be amazing if we europeans could get a similar trend running here. But Until we can get the EU lines "working" we have little data to make other assumptions, although I see a lot of paterns mirroing the US queues.
 
As for the 3090, there is that whole "lots of dead cards" issue that is worrying some folks and card is factually more expensive than any other Ampere by some margin, I have seen some resistance in retailers which indicates that people are not exausting that stock as quick as the 3080, the 3070 also seems to "run out" much later than the 3060 and the 3080 and I don't blame them considering how the benchmarks turned out.
 
Tomorrow is Tuesday, a popular day for emails, hopefully I can catch a few more crumbs on my daily rounds to fill up the reports, I actually dug up one yesterday that should advance one of the 3080 queues, will put it up a little later once I have done my "sniffing round".

 
Yeah, I like these discussions. We're not too dissimilar in thinking btw. The main thing that I believe that I think you don't, relates to the 3090 FTW Ultra. I'd be fairly confident that for that specific queue for EU that it has (so far) gotten _zero_ allocation. Sure, I've seen a few appear on Scan.co.uk within the last few weeks, so they are making their way to Europe - just not into the EVGA EU queue. I'd have ordered one from SCAN but with Brexit, and the fear of a "no deal" Scan are currently setup not to ship from the UK to Ireland (where I live) and couldn't as a result. F'ing typical. 
 
The fact that other skus are getting movement tells me that the EU queues are moving. How fast in relation to the NA queues we can't really say from the data that we have - but the fact that there has been no movement on that 3090 FTW and the NA queue is well into October while the EU equivalent is still back in Sept - nahh, it's just not possible that we had 1000's of more users sign up on day zero in EU than our cousins over in North America. You could argue that it's just that people didn't update the spreadsheet, and that could be the case, however......I happen to be one of those Sept people, and I know I didn't get notified, so I'd be confident about the logic. 

Why do I/we care? Well, I'd like people to know that if they are waiting on a 3090 FTW Ultra via the queue - you may be waiting in vein. Hopefully someone will notice and fix whatever problem is there. 

Note: I did use the queuing system back in 2018 for my 2080Ti, so I know it works......just doesn't seem to be "doing it's thing" at the moment. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 05:43:27 (permalink)
4 minutes in 5 days? Do you have any clue to how many units that translates? (3080 FTW3 Ultra)


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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 10:41:37 (permalink)
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4 minutes in 5 days? Do you have any clue to how many units that translates? (3080 FTW3 Ultra)


No clue, only EVGA can release those numbers.
As for the queues moving so slowly, obviously a lot of people clicked on "day 1". It's a no brainer that those initial days have an insane volume of waiting people, keep in mind that emails are not automated, a human is going thru all those clicks one by one and on the US thread there is a theory that EVGA tends to group daily emails by SKUs, most likely the ones they have built enough stock I say.
 
An internal magical number that sort of "opens the gates" probably exists, but even enewt hasn't been able to pinpoint that with all the data he gets, the EU data I have is too low to work on estimates of "ok, maybe it's 50, or 100" and in practice that number would be useless because we have no idea how many have are queued.
There is also the detail, that I tend to repeat often, that the EU stock is being managed at the factory in Asia, so others factors could have an impact on the number of cards being shipped to the queue orders.
 
I hope my explanation helps.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 10:52:51 (permalink)
Ok, just got my notification for 3080FTW3 Ultra  ... end of waiting for me ;) NOW I can get something nice to drink, I really need it heh.

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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 10:54:29 (permalink)
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Ok, just got my notification for 3080FTW ultra ... end of waiting for me ;) NOW I can get something nice to drink, I really need it heh.



Thank you for your reply! Enjoy your card.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 11:03:11 (permalink)
Guys, i've got my notification!

10G-P5-3897-KR 9/17/2020 7:22:53 PM PT YES
  
For the Hungarians: It cost me 337775 HUF with shipping.
post edited by Ksonik - 2021/01/12 14:46:19
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 14:54:10 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues
Recent moves are in bold, another "3080 Day" but only for the FTW3 that moved a wooping 7 minutes!
 
Name                      SKU          Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra      3987         9/24/2020 9:33:47 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra        3885         9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra      3897         9/17/2020 7:25:56 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black        3751        10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra        3755         10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra      3767         10/29/2020 6:12:00 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming   3663        12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW            3667        12/05/2020 12:23:00 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 15:10:36 (permalink)
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post edited by noisy.duck - 2021/01/15 04:16:53
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 15:42:10 (permalink)
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.....
Seems i cant even reply for now.
So i write here, if possible adjust my entry there,  seems i filled that chart wrongly.
  - username: noisy
  - dates:     
10G-P5-3885-KR     12/15/2020
10G-P5-3897-KR     12/10/2020     
10G-P5-3883-KR     12/10/2020     
10G-P5-3881-KR     12/10/2020




You can report errors to the people responsible for maintaining the Spreadsheets on this thread:
https://forums.evga.com/Spreadsheet-Megathread-10000-entries-m3170768-p4.aspx
 
Just make sure you mention it's for the EU Sheets as it is a separate form.
In any case your timestamps could serve as a future reference, you can leave those here
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/12 20:22:42 (permalink)
Finally some confirmed drops.
Looking at the spreadsheet...  I really like the "estimated date of email" column. Right on my birthday in 3 years. 
 
Let's hope the list will go a bit faster.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/13 02:37:14 (permalink)
from the recent updates it seems that only FTW3 and ultra versions are being delivered. let's hope other models like xc3 gaming and such to follow this trend too.
 
it would be a pity to be penalized for choosing less premium graphics
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/13 08:38:08 (permalink)
24G-P5-3987-KR 9/24/2020 10:57:42 AM PT
 
Received email today that card has been booked for 8 hours.


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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/13 09:09:17 (permalink)
That's very reassuring ComboSlicer - you are (as far as I know) the first person to receive an email in Europe for the 3090 FTW Ultra's. Again, as I've said before lack of previous email recipients didn't mean that there were not others before you (as they may simply not notified the thread) .....but it's certainly reassuring to hear that you got the mail as it proves that cards *are* getting to the queue.  Before today, I would have said "no chance" - now I can change my mind :-) 

I'm in myself for 9/26, so I suspect I may have some time to go yet even though it's only 2 days in the queue after you - but it gives me hope. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/13 10:10:16 (permalink)
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24G-P5-3987-KR 9/24/2020 10:57:42 AM PT
 
Received email today that card has been booked for 8 hours.




Congratulations and thank you for reporting back!
As you can see per alandoy's post you have helped a lot.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/13 14:33:02 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues
Recent moves are in bold, the 3090 FTW3 Ultra is today's move, almost 1 hour and a half from the last timestamp.

Name                      SKU      Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra      3987     9/24/2020 10:57:42 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra        3885     9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra      3897     9/17/2020 7:25:56 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black       3751     10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra        3755     10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra      3767     10/29/2020 6:12:00 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming  3663     12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW           3667     12/05/2020 12:23:00 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/14 09:13:50 (permalink)
3090 was shipped today from Taiwan
 
As for above responses, thank you! Its been really long time indeed but luckily can see some movement finally in EU store as well.
With taxes the FTW3 Ultra was ~1860€ , in comparison in one of the official retails in Germany same card has a price tag of 2230€ so considering myself lucky with current price.
post edited by ComboSlicer - 2021/01/14 09:16:56


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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/14 09:17:19 (permalink)
Good stuff - jealous I am, but also optimistic that I'll get mine within a month (or two) I hope. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/14 10:28:36 (permalink)
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3090 was shipped today from Taiwan
 
As for above responses, thank you! Its been really long time indeed but luckily can see some movement finally in EU store as well.
With taxes the FTW3 Ultra was ~1860€ , in comparison in one of the official retails in Germany same card has a price tag of 2230€ so considering myself lucky with current price.




Great news, keep us posted.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/14 15:08:47 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues
Recent moves are in bold, another "single file" day, the 3070 FTW3 Ultra moved almost 10 minutes from the last report.
 
Name                      SKU        Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra      3987       9/24/2020 10:57:42 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra        3885       9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra      3897       9/17/2020 7:25:56 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black        3751       10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra         3755       10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra       3767      10/29/2020 6:21:00 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming   3663       12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW            3667       12/05/2020 12:23:00 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/14 15:29:38 (permalink)
just wondering, for sku3897 for example time is 7:25am. At what time clock started?


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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/15 03:11:28 (permalink)
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just wondering, for sku3897 for example time is 7:25am. At what time clock started?


I think it started  9/17/2020 07:00:00 AM PT, correct me if wrong. 

Are you feeling lucky? 

 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/15 15:16:25 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues and the final update for the week.
With no accurate data I am calling this a strangler day.  But at least we can have some peace of mind that lines moved in all weekdays except for Friday. May next week be the same and bring us closer to our cards.
 
Name                       SKU       Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra       3987      9/24/2020 10:57:42 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra         3885      9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra       3897      9/17/2020 7:25:56 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black         3751     10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra         3755      10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra       3767      10/29/2020 6:21:00 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming   3663      12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW            3667       12/05/2020 12:23:00 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/18 07:10:25 (permalink)
Guys, i've got my notification!

10G-P5-3897-KR 9/17/2020 7:22:53 PM PT YES
  
For the Hungarians: It cost me 337775 HUF with shipping.
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UPDATE: It arrived today morning, no red lips (Y)
Good luck for everyone else!



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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/18 11:52:56 (permalink)
you wonder why eu queue move so slow?
because evga most cards transfer to retailers and they sell them to scalpers

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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/18 14:10:00 (permalink)
Saw a 3090 Kinpin on Caseking earlier today with availability for a short time, for almost €2500  Priced that ridiculously and still sold out in short order.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/18 15:11:16 (permalink)
I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe that the 3090 Kingpin retails north of €2100 (recommended retail that is), so it's not outrageously priced when you first see it.  
That said, while I can understand it.....I have to say it's a free market economy, so the scalpers are welcome to do what they want. If people simply didn't pay the ridiculous prices.....they would have no market. 
 
That said, a Kingpin card is something special, and having a bot/scalper "doing the dirt" on it.....saddens me. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/19 11:37:35 (permalink)
Received 3090 today which I ordered from EVGA EU store, very quiet card.


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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/19 12:51:59 (permalink)
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Guys, i've got my notification!

10G-P5-3897-KR 9/17/2020 7:22:53 PM PT YES
 
For the Hungarians: It cost me 337775 HUF with shipping.
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UPDATE: It arrived today morning, no red lips (Y)
Good luck for everyone else!





From September you got the notification yesterday???
So I entered the notification in November i should expect a notification in 2022??
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/19 13:29:16 (permalink)
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Guys, i've got my notification!

10G-P5-3897-KR 9/17/2020 7:22:53 PM PT YES

For the Hungarians: It cost me 337775 HUF with shipping.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATE: It arrived today morning, no red lips (Y)
Good luck for everyone else!





From September you got the notification yesterday???
So I entered the notification in November i should expect a notification in 2022??




It's hard to make a guess, but the current waiting time has been slipping to around 4 months in some queues.
Your notification is around the same time as mine, I believe queues will move faster as we move away from release day, but those days are still crawling at this point.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/01/19 14:18:56 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues

Recent moves are in bold. I had predicted a 3060 drop for Friday but it only happened on Monday, so.. back to the top this week?
For some reason my converter messed up the date for the 3060 FTW, my apologies, that means the correct date has gone back by 1 hour, but queue has moved a solid 10 minute foward closer to next day.
 
Name                        SKU          Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra        3987         9/24/2020 10:57:42 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra          3885         9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra        3897         9/17/2020 7:25:56 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black          3751        10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra           3755        10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra         3767        10/29/2020 6:21:00 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming     3663        12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW               3667        12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
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