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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 00:06:43 (permalink)
    If only they would finally release this product.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 00:24:09 (permalink)
    It's up for pre-order.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 00:30:50 (permalink)
    um why???

    why would i want a cooling solution that covers 1/2 the motherboard -
    covers up the dimms so you basically have to take the block off to do anything with the ram
    let alone cover up RGB DIMMS so you can't see them??? WTH
     
    look if you want standard parts like dimms then you can use standard cooling...duh!
     
    if you want better cooling a custom loop will blow that away
     
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/icegiant-prototype-thermosiphon-cooler
     
    The IceGiant ProSiphon Elite prototype model we received is so large, it nearly dwarfs the rest of our AMD Threadripper hardware, while the memory DIMMs are nearly obscured beneath the cooling tech. For perspective, the image above isn't the cooler towering atop a compact motherboard. The cooler here sitting atop our 32-core 2990WX and E-ATX Gigabyte X399 Aorus XTreme motherboard. So it dominates even the largest motherboards you can buy.
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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 02:32:38 (permalink)
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    um why???

    why would i want a cooling solution that covers 1/2 the motherboard -
    covers up the dimms so you basically have to take the block off to do anything with the ram
    let alone cover up RGB DIMMS so you can't see them??? WTH
     
    look if you want standard parts like dimms then you can use standard cooling...duh!
     
    if you want better cooling a custom loop will blow that away
     
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/icegiant-prototype-thermosiphon-cooler
     
    The IceGiant ProSiphon Elite prototype model we received is so large, it nearly dwarfs the rest of our AMD Threadripper hardware, while the memory DIMMs are nearly obscured beneath the cooling tech. For perspective, the image above isn't the cooler towering atop a compact motherboard. The cooler here sitting atop our 32-core 2990WX and E-ATX Gigabyte X399 Aorus XTreme motherboard. So it dominates even the largest motherboards you can buy.


    The finished product will be a lot thinner.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 03:34:21 (permalink)
    I would like to see the finished product and independent reviews. 

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 03:44:19 (permalink)
    I agree I would want to see the finished product. Second I heard that the final product was going to be 1/3rd the size I didn't need to see numbers from Linus since it's not a product we will be using. It's like if we saw numbers for the CLC-360 and are told it's why we should buy a CLC-120 to cool our system. It's just not the same then again the CLC-120 isn't a bad product.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 04:53:04 (permalink)
    The thing is massive!  Having that hanging there doesn't give me a secure feeling...

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 06:07:51 (permalink)
    If water cooling is dead, where are the head-to-head comparisons?

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 06:40:10 (permalink)
    Accessibility is crap. That hanging on the mobo and putting uneven pressure on the socket and CPU is crap. I don't want to mount a brick sideways to my CPU socket.
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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 12:10:21 (permalink)
    Not only is the IceGiant voluminous, it also weighs in at a hefty 4.85lbs
     
    That's a NO from me dawg. Maybe if they designed it to mount directly to the case for stability it'd have a chance. But putting all that pressure on the board/socket is not going to end well if the thing falls over or gets set down too hard.
     
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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 12:30:23 (permalink)
    I watched that video when it first came out... Total click bait IMO. They claim the finished product will only be 30% of that size, with no loss in performance. Felt more like a pre-order sales pitch. Linus was trying his hardest to make it not sound like one.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 12:55:42 (permalink)

    and its not even 01 April
     
    good luck getting the side cover on your case

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 14:29:25 (permalink)
    The tech does have solid theory and principle behind it, however it won't compete with high end custom loops in performance. It will be a suitable substitute for an AIO if they can get the size down to their claimed dimensions when it's ready. However as pointed out above it will inherently have accessibility issues because of it's size even when scaled back.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 14:45:36 (permalink)
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    Not only is the IceGiant voluminous, it also weighs in at a hefty 4.85lbs
     
    That's a NO from me dawg. Maybe if they designed it to mount directly to the case for stability it'd have a chance. But putting all that pressure on the board/socket is not going to end well if the thing falls over or gets set down too hard.
     




    Same, I finally went to watercooling on my recent build after using a D14 since 2010.  I wanted to get away from needing big bulky coolers hanging off my motherboard and causing clearance issues whenever I wanted to run better than basic RAM (i.e. something with decent heatspreaders etc.).   I guess it could be worse.  I remember "back in the day" when copper and copper/aluminum hybrid heatsinks first started coming out.  They still attached directly to the socket itself instead of going through the motherboard or or being clipped onto brackets mounted through the board (like AM4).  You'd see reports of them literally ripping the CPU socket off the board due to the weight!

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 21:42:57 (permalink)
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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 22:42:04 (permalink)
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    and its not even 01 April
     
    good luck getting the side cover on your case


    Maybe why he didn't run the test with side on. I was wondering about that.
     
     
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    The tech does have solid theory and principle behind it, however it won't compete with high end custom loops in performance. It will be a suitable substitute for an AIO if they can get the size down to their claimed dimensions when it's ready. However as pointed out above it will inherently have accessibility issues because of it's size even when scaled back.


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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 22:57:28 (permalink)
     
    lmao..
     

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/20 23:51:38 (permalink)
    https://www.icegiantcooling.com/reviews
     
    The review compares the ProSiphon Elite Prototype with the top heat pipe cooling options for AMD's 32-core Threadripper 2990wx CPU, i.e., the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 and the Arctic Freezer 50TR, on overclocked settings.​At maximum fan speeds for each cooler, the ProSiphon Elite Prototype beat out the Noctua and the Arctic coolers by 4.2  C and 8.2  C, respectively.  
     
     
     not even compared to Watercooling ...yeah like duh any watercooling..ie thermisiphon should beat out a metal block Linus should be shamed for this one  
     
    furthermore the thermisiphon is like 3-4x the size of those blocks.... like duh! unfair advantage -of course it should do better
    just imagine bigger blocks might do better - its the airflow you need
     
    real world testing??? where linus.... where?
     
    was it open case where it could get fresh air or closed?
    did you have the case vertical or horizontal? ...what is the stress on the cpu socket? - im considering shear force weight here as well - vs impact of full weight on cpu socket - long term
     
    we have no real 1/3 size version to test - so it could be bull K'rap to get investors and may never pan out - they have no final product to live up to their promise yet - just a ugly awful prototype
     
    and the proposed 1/3 size is longer and taller and sits closer to board - and offset - which may have shear force implications
    - i understand the offset - its for gravity to force liquid(not water) to cpu where its evaporated - so it has to be offset for vertical case
     
    what gets me is you are putting a cheap solution on a very expensive threadripper and motherboard - and probably has a hefty stack of ram
    spend $4-5k on cpu,ram and MB and put a $100 solution on it - rather than properly cool it??????
     
    if you can afford the highest offering from AMD or INTEL you can afford proper cooling - by gods you'd rather put your faith on a cheap cooling system - i can't fathom it
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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/21 03:45:10 (permalink)
    All the Thermalsiphon review units shipped with max-speed fans, which are not what will be shipping in production units. Most of the reviews aren't even substituting normal fans, which will have trouble moving air through the thing at lower speeds. 
     
    The 4.85lbs may as well round to 5lbs after you include the fans. Even for the massive sTRX4 socket I would be worried about moving the system case around, and board damage from gradual flex over time. If anyone remembers the Thermalright TRUE Copper, even at 4.18lbs with a backplate it caused flex and even broke some motherboards. 


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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/21 18:25:45 (permalink)
    WRONG! 


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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/21 19:57:57 (permalink)
    not for me.  too bulky

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/21 21:55:39 (permalink)
    Didn't realize it was Linus, i lasted 10secs into the video, blow hard much dude......

     
     
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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/21 22:01:47 (permalink)


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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/21 22:48:21 (permalink)
    What's with the 'one and therefore all' assumptions?

    Just because this bulky bs is how the technology is being implemented first time doesn't mean all variations will look just like it from here onwards.

    Meaning, every argument from weight and accessibility will be moot once (and provided) competition sets in.

    Think back (or just Google) the first water cooling systems more than a decade ago, they weren't anything like what we have today, and it wasn't until the AIO type that put regular air cooling to rest.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/22 08:02:05 (permalink)
    no use testing unless you have the actual product ....not some bogus prototype that doesn't meet the  specs and design for the final product
    they are no where near each other in size
     
    secondly this cooler blows some of the heat back into the case(because it is mounted on CPU rather than the case side and CPU) where a AIO would blow all of it out the case
     
    this is basically a AIO cooler - just no moving parts -they wanted to simplify things(no moving parts to fail)
    a water cooler has more ability to a absorb and get rid of more heat than a phase cooler
    thats because a gas can't hold much more heat
     
    and diaelectric fluids do not have as high of thermal thermal transfer rate
     
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    https://www.lytron.com/product-support/resource.cfm?aid=1242
     
     
    so basically to match a AIO cooler they have to offer more surface area to compete and more airflow
     
    my suggestion - just build a better AIO with better pumps and maybe 2x140(which they have)or 3x140's and maybe thicker with more surface area
     
    its how fast you can move fluid -(volume) and surface area of Rads and the airflow over them that make the difference
     


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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/22 08:09:46 (permalink)
    Too bulky and heavy.  It won't work and looks hideous.  This will also block ambient lighting in most systems.  Maybe this would have been fine back in the 2000s when AIO weren't around much and everyone had motorcycle parts for custom loops but almost 15-20 years later, things have changed.  This hideous looking block came way too late. lol  I'm sure a hand full of people will buy this but majority won't.  To each their own at the end of the day.

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    Re: Water Cooling is Dead 2019/12/22 08:50:13 (permalink)
    You may want to research that a little more- there are a number of things you got wrong about it. Or you can check out Jays2cents on youtube- did a review on the pre production model, Which is what the pic showed.
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