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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 10:33:19 (permalink)
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How are you guys keeping track of your orders ?
I requested the pads and received an email, stating that my request has been recorded, but that's as far as it goes ?




I'm not sure that the pads have started shipping yet. They did at one point say it would be "sometime" this week.
Mine (like I expect most peoples) are still sitting at "Awaiting Shipment".
I got the same initial Email as you, I suspect you will receive another when they actually get shipped.
Just a matter of sitting tight and waiting I suppose.


Evga has started shipping the pads out as they arrive to their distribution center. They dont work during the weekends, so Monday through Friday are the ship dates, and then they jave to wait for the pads to be delivered to their office before they can send them to the user.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 10:34:24 (permalink)
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How are you guys keeping track of your orders ?
I requested the pads and received an email, stating that my request has been recorded, but that's as far as it goes ?




I'm not sure that the pads have started shipping yet. They did at one point say it would be "sometime" this week.
Mine (like I expect most peoples) are still sitting at "Awaiting Shipment".
I got the same initial Email as you, I suspect you will receive another when they actually get shipped.
Just a matter of sitting tight and waiting I suppose.


Thanks for replying Mike.
I'll just sit tight and see how this week plays out.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 10:36:16 (permalink)
Thanks Scarlet.
Was just curious to know where everyone was seeing the "awaiting shipment" status. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 10:37:51 (permalink)
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Sorry GFAFS, but when it comes to statistics you are wrong.  The FIT number should be built from the MTBF data, and the MTBF data does not match the FIT data.  The only conclusion I can draw from your data is that it is invalid and should be ignored.  I'm not trying to start an argument, but I really don't like it when people put what they represent as facts on the internet to support their own biased opinion.  Your data is suspect at best, and just flat wrong at worst.  I see no reason to engage with you further on this matter.  
 

 
Sure, i understand your skepticism, but as i said it's not my data, it's Onsemi ones.
Check here :
http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/reliability.do?part=NCP81382HMNTXG
http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/reliability.do?part=NCP81382MNTXG
You can interact with their tool yourself and cross check.
 
Now, of course you have to understand what FIT/MTBF/MTTF really mean and what the formula stand for, but for that quick easy search will probably clarify your doubts.  
What i posted is Fact.
post edited by GFAFS - 2016/11/07 10:40:33
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 10:55:36 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that the pads have started shipping yet.



The pads started shipping last week. Mine were shipped on 10/31. They are going regular postal mail. They are shipping from California. Mine arrived here in Phoenix last Friday 11/4. You may want to look at the USPS site for estimated delivery times to your area. Since my pad package was shipped before the announcement of VRAM pads, I have put in an followup request for those pads.  Depending on stock, etc. that may take another 1 to 2 weeks to ship.

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 10:58:53 (permalink)
I never had any problems with my 1080 FTW but i updated bios anyway. My temperature is <60C while playing Far Cry Primal, before it was ~65C. Sweet :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:02:58 (permalink)
How do I install the dual bios?
 
And what is the driver number?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:07:53 (permalink)
after i updated my GTX1080 FTW my screen began to flicker black
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:11:16 (permalink)
Wait I just installed the drivers in order. It took less than a second each time. Is that normal?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:12:05 (permalink)
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How do I install the dual bios?
 
And what is the driver number?


if you want to update both bios, you'll need to be on each bios to update.
so to update bios 1, switch on master, update, shut down, then switch to slave, turn on, update bios 2, reboot.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:13:48 (permalink)
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How do I install the dual bios?
 
And what is the driver number?


if you want to update both bios, you'll need to be on each bios to update.
so to update bios 1, switch on master, update, shut down, then switch to slave, turn on, update bios 2, reboot.




Sorry, I just dont understand :/
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:23:57 (permalink)


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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:26:18 (permalink)
I've been playing bf1 1080p on ultra @60hz, gpubusage never goes above 53% and temp never goes higher than 45c (1080ftw) I'm still gonna do the thermal pads,just because.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:44:31 (permalink)
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Someone can explain me the process for request an RMA? I have a link "submit a new RMA" but clicking it I return to page product. Thanks


In order to start an RMA it is required you enter a ticket number given from tech support AFTER troubleshooting. Please contact tech support if you have not done so: 888-881-EVGA (3842) or via email 




Not correct in this case. You dont need to go through Tech support at all.
 
Open a ticket using RMA.
This situation is special, if you make an RMA asking for replacement or help they get back to you fast. I made a Advance RMA and got the ticket approved a few hours later, pretty impressive how fast they handled it.
 
 


How can I do an Advance RMA? thanks




My link didnt show i previous post, here it is:

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:47:52 (permalink)
@MarcoSil
 
Eh i cant put links here, have to be like this :)
---->eu.evga.com/Support/rma.asp
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:56:02 (permalink)
Tristoteles
 
Sorry, I just dont understand :/


what is your card?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 11:56:39 (permalink)
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Sorry, I just dont understand :/


what is your card?




GTX 1070 FTW
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 12:04:59 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 12:12:17 (permalink)
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@MarcoSil
 
Eh i cant put links here, have to be like this :)
---->eu.evga.com/Support/rma.asp


ok, thanks, I choose advanced RMA, but I could not finalize it becouse the "Support Ticket Number"  is mandatory and ask me it. How do you finalize the form without it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 12:22:42 (permalink)
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First post updated with all 1080/1070 BIOS
 
http://forums.evga.com/Update-11416-with-NEW-BIOS-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-10801070-PWM-Operating-Temperature-Update-m2573491.aspx#2573491
 




Got the one for 6181 and flashed successfully...took all of maybe 20 seconds...rebooted all good.  Played a bit with the card in 3DMark.  Mind you I use an aggressive fan curve of 50C>60% fan; 60C?70%; 70C>80% and so on.  Disabled my fan control of Afterburner and monitored fan speeds as best I could.  Under 50C fans were at 0%, as it rose to 55C I saw around 30% fan speed; 60C got to 40%; 65C showed around 50% and increased from there.  Definitely a change from original fan curve.  Temps here in the Dallas area are much cooler this week.  We are finally under 80 degrees...so overall performance of temps are now really much lower.  Looks good!

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 12:33:39 (permalink)
Any chance we'll get some clarification on the  at some point?
 
Part of the reason I'm asking is that I'm (unsurprisingly) a bit worried about the lifespan of the card in case there was an improper contact on mine... and decided to go "maybe I should go for the extended warranty" as I keep cards ~4 years and don't quite have as much confidence in EVGA's QA I used to have, only to realise that I'm about a week-and-a-half out of the 90 day window. In other words, I missed the window when all of this broke lose, great.
 
Went to ask customer support and their answer was basically "VRM pads are optional, you can't purchase extended warranty, but you can RMA it". That leaves me a bit puzzled because a) it doesn't address the VRAM issue at all and b) surely, me giving them money for the extended warranty while "fixing" it myself with the thermal pad kit is a better deal for EVGA (and less hassle for me) than RMAing the card? 
 
Some clarification regarding the VRAM clearance issue would really help to untangle that confusion.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 12:51:13 (permalink)
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Any chance we'll get some clarification on the  at some point?
 
Part of the reason I'm asking is that I'm (unsurprisingly) a bit worried about the lifespan of the card in case there was an improper contact on mine... and decided to go "maybe I should go for the extended warranty" as I keep cards ~4 years and don't quite have as much confidence in EVGA's QA I used to have, only to realise that I'm about a week-and-a-half out of the 90 day window. In other words, I missed the window when all of this broke lose, great.
 
Went to ask customer support and their answer was basically "VRM pads are optional, you can't purchase extended warranty, but you can RMA it". That leaves me a bit puzzled because a) it doesn't address the VRAM issue at all and b) surely, me giving them money for the extended warranty while "fixing" it myself with the thermal pad kit is a better deal for EVGA (and less hassle for me) than RMAing the card? 
 
Some clarification regarding the VRAM clearance issue would really help to untangle that confusion.


EVGA has stated they will be sending vram pads as well.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 13:10:08 (permalink)
I ended up buying my own thermal pads.
Two kits of arctic cooling pads, 1.5x145x145 and 0.5x145x145
Succesfully modded my card without breaking or exploding anything, for a wide pad i used stack of 1.5+0.5mm, for everything else 1.5 made a solid, firm contact including vrms and ram chips under mid plate.
Thermal grease i used was from noctua, temps stayed the same as they were.. around 65 degrees with 65% fan speed.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 13:22:02 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that the pads have started shipping yet.



The pads started shipping last week. Mine were shipped on 10/31. They are going regular postal mail. They are shipping from California. Mine arrived here in Phoenix last Friday 11/4. You may want to look at the USPS site for estimated delivery times to your area. Since my pad package was shipped before the announcement of VRAM pads, I have put in an followup request for those pads.  Depending on stock, etc. that may take another 1 to 2 weeks to ship.




I'm in the UK and from what I can gather from the EVGA rep over on the OCuk forum (UK based site) they are not starting shipping for us in the UK till next week at the earliest. Also depends I suppose, on where they are going to be posted from (IE. UK EVGA site, or from the European one over in Germany). So I suspect it very much appears to depend on where in the world you are.
 
I'm not that bothered really. Only had my 1070 FTW a couple of weeks. So I've not been stressing it until I get the "optional" pads fitted. Appears to OC well and zero coil whine. And not too bothered to do these fixes myself. C'est la vie as the French say. Though maybe the American version is more appropriate in this case "Sh*t happens".
 
Don't think I'm as stressed as some appear on this issue. Not ideal ... but EVGA appear to be addressing the situation. And ultimately I have my fully transferable 3 year warranty to fall back on.
 
But it's up to individuals as to what course of action they want to take. Not looking for a flame war guys. Each to their own.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 13:45:02 (permalink)
do i need thermal pads for my 1080 classifieds cards?

All these information about evga 1080s burning up is getting me worried on the £1600 i spent on 2 classified cards.

Also the bios update, not that i want to do it but if i did update the bios how would i do it, i have 2 cards running in sli, do i have to do it twice or do i need to take one card out of the PC then update bios and then do it again with the other card? or does the flashing update the 2 cards in my PC?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 13:50:35 (permalink)
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do i need thermal pads for my 1080 classifieds cards?

All these information about evga 1080s burning up is getting me worried on the £1600 i spent on 2 classified cards.

Also the bios update, not that i want to do it but if i did update the bios how would i do it, i have 2 cards running in sli, do i have to do it twice or do i need to take one card out of the PC then update bios and then do it again with the other card? or does the flashing update the 2 cards in my PC?


First thing, go to the very first post in the thread which contains all the information you need. BUT I will copy and paste from said first page your answer to your SLI question:
Q. How do I apply the BIOS to both cards on an SLI system?
A. On SLI systems the BIOS is automatically applied to both cards.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 14:41:02 (permalink)
Just updated the Secondary BIOS on my 1080 CLASSIFIED,Followed there Windows (64bit) Installation steps. Restarted and windows said gpu was unsupported (running on default drivers).Ran DDU and reinstalled the 375.76 graphics drivers issue solved.

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 14:58:05 (permalink)
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Just updated the Secondary BIOS on my 1080 CLASSIFIED,Followed there Windows (64bit) Installation steps. Restarted and windows said gpu was unsupported (running on default drivers).Ran DDU and reinstalled the 375.76 graphics drivers issue solved.




so your not getting the thermal pads for your classified? u just updated the bios so the fans work harder?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 15:10:32 (permalink)
Can anyone tell me the difference between Master and Slave BIOS on the GTX 1080 FTW please. I'm currently on the Master BIOS but I don't know which BIOS is best for me. A post before said the voltage is increased and fans are increased with the Slave BIOS, can anyone explain what that means exactly. Fan noise isn't an issue for me as my case has sound proofing and it's very quiet even with the GPU fans at 100%.

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EVGA GTX 1080 FTW
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/07 15:19:44 (permalink)
I applied for the thermal pads and got an email for the thermal pad mod request, waiting on the request verified email. Also you seem to imply that the fans working harder means something bad,I see it as lower temps. On my older classifieds,I had them both on 100% fan speed out of the box till i got this card.

My system
Motherboard-Evga Z370 Classified K Bios V1.19
Cpu-Intel I7-9700k 4.6 GHz
Gpu-Evga 2070 Super FTW3 Ultra 2115 MHz
Ram-Corsair 3600mhz 32GB (2 x 16GB)
16-19-19-36 
Hard Drives-Samsung 980Pro 500GB (os) + Seagate 6TB
Mouse-Razer ouroboros
Monitior-LG  29EA93-P + 3x HP 27wm
Keyboard-Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013
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Headset-Razer Tiamat 7.1 
Mic-Yeti Pro

 
 
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