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With all the newer motherboards, would that be a good choice coming from this P67 FTW that I'm using now? The X99 can have up to 128Gb's of Ram. I never used more than 16GB's, like I'm using now. Does 128GB's make a huge difference, especially a difference you can maybe see, and feel? I would be going from DDR3 to DDR4 with the X99. What about a CPU for the X99? I have the i7 2600K now. I think I bought it for around $219 at Microcenter at the time. Which CPU would be a good budget CPU, but is still really good? I know this 2600K was really good at the time my Motherboard was bought. I currently have 1 Video Card, but might sli later on. Wouldn't want more than 2. I really liked the P67. Would the X99 be similar? Answers to those questions would be great. Anyone who currently has the X99, and would like to tell me how it's going with that Motherboard would be great too.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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I have one and it is my Best Motherboard. 32 GB with the Core i7-5960X is working out well. Memory to Core. Cores 8 Thread 16; 4GB Per Core or 2GB Per Thread X99GTX980Cruncher
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Does 128GB's make a huge difference, especially a difference you can maybe see, and feel?
Nope. 5820k would be a good choice for the cpu as it comes with 28 pci-e lanes which is perfect for sli down the road. X99 is a different animal than P67.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
2015/11/15 14:22:22
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Does 128GB's make a huge difference, especially a difference you can maybe see, and feel?
Nope.
5820k would be a good choice for the cpu as it comes with 28 pci-e lanes which is perfect for sli down the road. X99 is a different animal than P67.
Sajin knows very well. 32gb of ram will always be my limit. I am going to stick to that as a good number as it isn't overly expensive and it gives a little headroom.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Sajin knows very well.
32gb of ram will always be my limit. I am going to stick to that as a good number as it isn't overly expensive and it gives a little headroom.
Why is it your limit? Why not, let's say 64?
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Does 128GB's make a huge difference, especially a difference you can maybe see, and feel?
Nope.
5820k would be a good choice for the cpu as it comes with 28 pci-e lanes which is perfect for sli down the road. X99 is a different animal than P67.
So it's not something I'm used to? Which board is more comparable then? Also, what's the difference between an X or K series CPU?
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Why is it your limit? Why not, let's say 64?
Because you would need to be doing some pretty epic production work to use over 32gb. Daily use and gaming won't see a benefit past 16gb. Video editing and photo editing.. Watch this: It all depends on what you do. I want to get into video editing, but I don't know if I am creative enough right now, so I just stick to photo editing and games.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2015/11/22 18:11:11
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Does 128GB's make a huge difference, especially a difference you can maybe see, and feel?
Nope.
5820k would be a good choice for the cpu as it comes with 28 pci-e lanes which is perfect for sli down the road. X99 is a different animal than P67.
So it's not something I'm used to? Which board is more comparable then? Also, what's the difference between an X or K series CPU?
I'm sure you'll be fine running the x99 board. The x99 platform is just vastly improved versus p67. X CPU = best cpu(6-8 cores), high priced, unlocked multi, 40 pci-e lanes, IHS is soldered to the chip (helps dissipate heat better than regular thermal paste). K CPU = mainstream cpu (4-6 cores), lower priced, unlocked multi, 16-28 pci-e lanes, ihs isn't solder to the chip and uses regular thermal paste between the ihs to transfer heat from the cpu. Those are the only real important differences imo.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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It all depends what you're looking to use it for. I have 16GBs with 3 screens. Have a bunch of stuff open and I get at most 10GB used up.
For gaming I'd say you're ok till the next gen. I would look around and see when its all coming out and how long you're willing to wait for it or wait for black friday weekend and look up for some steals.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Does 128GB's make a huge difference, especially a difference you can maybe see, and feel?
Nope.
5820k would be a good choice for the cpu as it comes with 28 pci-e lanes which is perfect for sli down the road. X99 is a different animal than P67.
So it's not something I'm used to? Which board is more comparable then? Also, what's the difference between an X or K series CPU?
I'm sure you'll be fine running the x99 board. The x99 platform is just vastly improved versus p67. X CPU = best cpu(6-8 cores), high priced, unlocked multi, 40 pci-e lanes, IHS is soldered to the chip (helps dissipate heat better than regular thermal paste). K CPU = mainstream cpu (4-6 cores), lower priced, unlocked multi, 16-28 pci-e lanes, ihs isn't solder to the chip and uses regular thermal paste between the ihs to transfer heat from the cpu. Those are the only real important differences imo.
Ok. Thanks for that info.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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I just hope my Thermalright black True fits between those ram sticks, that will be on both sides of the cooler. Plus the 2 fans go on the sides of that cooler.
Also, would the Z170 be better than the X99? Is the 2011-3 socket better than the 1151? Which Corsair Ram kit would be good?
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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My question is what is the main purpose of your machine? Is it gaming? Do you do video editing? Do you do a lot of CPU heavy tasks?
If your using it 90% as a gaming machine and only going to 2 way SLI down the road I'd look into Z170. Since you mentioned only going 2 way SLI a quick Microcenter build of an X99 system would be:
X99 FTW: $294
5820K: $319
no bundle for this setup but there is a $20 rebate
DDR4 EVGA 4x4gb 2800: $129
Total: $722
And a comparable build of a Z170:
Z170 Micro or FTW: $189-$199
6700K: $329
Microcenter bundled together for $498 (saves $20+ another $20 rebate)
DDR4 2x8GB EVGA 2400: $85
Total: $563 after rebate
Also keep in mind that depending on the age of your PSU you may need a new one. Older PSU's have had some issues with the newer CPU's and the low power states that they are able to go into when idle. And with the money saved on the Z170 system your already saving towards a second GPU for the 2 way SLI if you so choose.
With that said I love my X99 FTW and 5930K. But I didn't have to shell out the initial expense for the board or memory due to the 9 days of X99 promotion when X99 launched. Had it not been for that I would be on the Z platform and probably not the latest iteration of it.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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@Zophar,
Would be mostly for gaming. Will be getting the Motherboard through Evga, because I have Evga bucks that will really help. I'm reading reviews on both boards, which should also help me reach a decision.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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The only thing I saw from Sajin that, to me, was misleading.
The z series chipset are thermal paste,
The X series chipset are soldered.
Above, it was said the K series with 16-28 lanes were thermal paste, which is incorrect. 16 lanes chips are, but the 5820k (the first non-xeon cpu available above 16 lanes) is soldered.
Telling people what you are specifically using this for is going to make a huge difference.
Just gaming: z170 will serve just fine. This has been shown in nearly every benchmark on the forums.
For gaming and production: x99 will give you an advantage due to more cores.
*you posted while I was typing ;-) *
Mostly gaming, you get everything you would need out of z170 or x99. X99 would have the advantage of 3 way sli availability with the 5820k (without the plx chip).
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
2015/11/15 17:57:04
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@Zophar,
Would be mostly for gaming. Will be getting the Motherboard through Evga, because I have Evga bucks that will really help. I'm reading reviews on both boards, which should also help me reach a decision.
I figured you'd get it from EVGA, I was just using the Microcenter stuff for a reference. If you have the bucks to get the X99 stuff then go for it. The CPU's are similar prices as long as you go 5820K which is perfect for you. But the ram will cost just a bit more depending on what you go with. The one down side is your CPU cooler. I'm not familiar with yours but in the event that it's not compatible with X99 then you would have a little more expense there. The Z170 is still the same spacing as 1150/1155 if I recall so I'd think you be fine there.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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For z170 ram, it is dual channel.
For x99 ram, it is quad channel.
Pay attention to which you are grabbing if you get x99, as it may give a slight performance boost on x99 platform to get quad channel.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Thanks guys for that info. I noticed that on the Z170, it has mostly 3.0 USB ports. Only two 2.0. I don't need those 3.0's. I need mostly 2.0 which the X99 has. I noticed that the CMOS reset button is next to the USB ports, which is more convenient on the X99. Just reach in the back of the tower, and push the button. Better than opening the case up every time to reset CMOS. Also I do want quad channel. Not dual. Question: Would my sound card in the X99 go in the x4, x5 slot, or can it go in either one? The X4 slot is the short one.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2015/11/22 18:11:54
PCI-E Lane Distribution (28 Lane Processor)
PE1 – x16 (x8 if PE2)
PE2 – x8
PE3 – x8 (Not functional with a 28 lane processor.)
PE4 – x8
PE5 – x4 (Gen 2 only, 4 lanes pulled from PCH)
PE6 – x4
You could use 4 but it may block cooling on your GPU if you go to SLI. Above is the a lot breakdown if you didn't already know.
And it is nice to be able to reset CMOS without taking stuff apart lol.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
2015/11/15 18:44:29
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Memory is expensive. Maybe get 4x4gb first, then get it again later for 32gb total. Do you occupy one side of the 4 slots first, then use the other side? Is it 240 pin, or 288?
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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288 pin, from left to right, occupy slot 1, 3, 5 and 7
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
2015/11/15 18:55:19
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288 pin, from left to right, occupy slot 1, 3, 5 and 7
Ok. Also, should I pick Ram with 2666mhz for this board? Don't really need 3000mhz do I? Looking at Evga's Memory support list. I want Corsair. Maybe the 4x8gb (32gb) ones.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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2400 or 2666 will be fine. I don't remember at what speed it is but somewhere in there the ram changes you bclk from 100 to 125 to achieve the higher speeds. That did cause some problems early on. Scarlet may be a bit more knowledgeable on this than I am. And it may not be a problem anymore with the slightly more mature bio's now.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
2015/11/15 19:02:31
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Which timing is better to buy? 16-18-18-35 or 15-17-17-35
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Someone better start Charging XrayMan and Soon. 
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2015/11/22 18:12:15
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Which timing is better to buy? 16-18-18-35 or 15-17-17-35
I have the Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400mhz kit, and it has 2666 built into a second xmp profile... It was quite a pleasant surprise to find that. You can always manually overclock it further, so I kmly ever get the 2400mhz kits, and her go up on my own. 15-17-17-35 would be the tighter timings and should provide slightly better performance. Lower means less response timing and faster turnaround. Above 2800mhz (if I am remembering coreectly) the bclk will bump to strap 125. I run 2666 and it runs fine. I need to experiment with bclk 125 though.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Which timing is better to buy? 16-18-18-35 or 15-17-17-35
I have the Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400mhz kit, and it has 2666 built into a second xmp profile... It was quite a pleasant surprise to find that. You can always manually overclock it further, so I kmly ever get the 2400mhz kits, and her go up on my own.
15-17-17-35 would be the tighter timings and should provide slightly better performance. Lower means less response timing and faster turnaround.
Above 2800mhz (if I am remembering correctly) the bclk will bump to strap 125. I run 2666 and it runs fine. I need to experiment with bclk 125 though.
Ok, so the lower the numbers the better. Thanks.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Ok, so the lower the numbers the better. Thanks.
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Re: Thinking about upgrading to the Evga X99 (Classified)
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Here's the Ram I want to get for the X99: Link Link Just need to figure out which CPU to get. ;)
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