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Thinking about swapping thermal pads for better performance? I was, and I did, but it was not what I expected. It has left me with more questions than answers. I am hoping that there are some knowledgeable folks out there that can offer sound guidance for others, myself included. I do not know the thermal pad specs that come on EVGA cards (3080, 3090) but there are better options, apparently, from what I've read. I'd like a better understanding on how to determine what pads best fit the application. Keeping compression in mind, how do you choose the correct thickness? Example: 1mm Stock pads (in general.. not necessarily evga pads) Thermal conductivity: 3.5 W/mk Hardness: 5 Shore A 1mm Gelid Extreme pads Thermal conductivity: 12 W/mk Hardness: 35 OO 1) Would you get better performance buying the Gelids? 2) Gelids are softer pads. Would you purchase 1mm or 1.5mm pads, or a different size? 3) Assuming there is no error in installation and mounting, would you expect cooler temps using the Gelid pads? The answer I prefer not to hear is if its not broke (cough.. high thermal junction) don't bother fixing it. The example I used is not unique to me, meaning this is not what I did. Just a potential purchase.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 14:42:03
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What card are you looking for? I have the thermal pad dimensions.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 15:06:24
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EVGATech_LeeM What card are you looking for? I have the thermal pad dimensions.
To somewhat hijack - would you mind sending me the pad dimensions for a 3090 FTW3 Hybrid kit? I asked twice, but didn't get them (but did get free replacement pads for the stock air cooler should I need to RMA).
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 17:47:28
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EVGATech_LeeM What card are you looking for? I have the thermal pad dimensions.
I appreciate you reaching out. I have a 3080 FTW3 Ultra with a Hybrid Kit. The kit comes with pre-applied pads, 2mm (and please correct me if i am wrong) on the copper plate for vram, the fan shroud with 2mm pads for the mosfets and 1mm pads for the chokes. These pads are very soft and get good compression. I also do not know the size on the stock ftw3 cooler. Any way I could get replacement sets for each so I don't have to chance it on aftermarket pads? The main point of my post was that most people that want to swap out for better thermal pads, buy whatever size that comes stock, but do not take into consideration the hardness of the aftermarket pads they are buying. Just because pads may offer better conductivity does not mean they will perform better if they are not getting the coverage or compression that is needed. Another question: How sensitive would a metric like thermal junction be to a temperature difference of + 2-3º ambient? If a card is not throttling at 19ºC ambient, but is now at 22ºC, it is the change in room temp or how the card is being cooled, maybe the better thermal pads are not doing the job as intended?
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 18:14:57
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1) After reading other people's experiences with replacing thermal pads/putty on these cards, I wouldn't do it. Far too many people have seen no thermal improvement and many have actually seen worse thermal performance due to contact pressure issues. Some have spent weeks testing, tweaking, and buying different products just trying to get there temperatures back to what they were stock. 2) The way pads and thermal paste are thermally characterized is not standardized. The testing temperature is not standardized, and this has a huge impact of the W/mk result. Some are tested at 20c. Some are tested at 60c. The difference in W/mk result is massive when tested at different temperatures. This makes the W/mk comparison useless when making buying choices. Since you can't compare pads based on W/mk, it means you would have to buy a bunch of different ones and compare them by physically testing them. A lot of time and expense for a tiny difference in thermal performance (in the grand scheme of things). Not worth it.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 18:31:11
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ty_ger07 1) After reading other people's experiences, I wouldn't do it. Far too many people have seen no thermal improvement and many have actually seen worse thermal performance due to contact pressure issues. 2) The way pads and thermal paste are thermally characterized is not standardized. The testing temperature is not standardized, and this has a huge impact of the W/mk result. Some are tested at 20c. Some are tested at 60c. The difference in W/mk result is massive when tested at different temperatures. This makes the W/mk comparison useless when making buying choices. Since you can't compare pads based on W/mk, it means you would have to buy a bunch of different ones and compare them by physically testing them. A lot of time and expense for a tiny difference in thermal performance (in the grand scheme of things). Not worth it.
I starting to believe that it is just not worth it. I cannot discredit a lot of people that have posted about better thermals through just swapping out pads and paste. There are multiple variables to consider that not everyone may realize or think to disclose. Some may just get lucky. Maybe these hybrid kits are sensitive to different pads.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 18:44:09
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2nd hijacker here... can I get thermal pad dimensions for a 3080 ftw3 ultra?
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 19:49:28
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I want the thermal pad dimensions for 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING. I'm thinking to replace it. Especially for the pad between the backplate and the VRAM. EVGATech_LeeM What card are you looking for? I have the thermal pad dimensions.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 19:59:52
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/03/31 22:53:32
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quote=skyline090] EVGATech_LeeM What card are you looking for? I have the thermal pad dimensions.
I appreciate you reaching out. I have a 3080 FTW3 Ultra with a Hybrid Kit. The kit comes with pre-applied pads, 2mm (and please correct me if i am wrong) on the copper plate for vram, the fan shroud with 2mm pads for the mosfets and 1mm pads for the chokes. These pads are very soft and get good compression. I also do not know the size on the stock ftw3 cooler. Any way I could get replacement sets for each so I don't have to chance it on aftermarket pads? The main point of my post was that most people that want to swap out for better thermal pads, buy whatever size that comes stock, but do not take into consideration the hardness of the aftermarket pads they are buying. Just because pads may offer better conductivity does not mean they will perform better if they are not getting the coverage or compression that is needed. Another question: How sensitive would a metric like thermal junction be to a temperature difference of + 2-3º ambient? If a card is not throttling at 19ºC ambient, but is now at 22ºC, it is the change in room temp or how the card is being cooled, maybe the better thermal pads are not doing the job as intended? What evga support sent me when I created a ticket for my 3080 FTW3 Ultra:
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/01 10:34:28
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☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2022/07/15 18:55:37
Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads:
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1pcs: 77mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/01 10:37:54
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EVGATech_LeeM Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads:
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1pcs: 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 BP Pads:
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3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal Pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/01 11:48:46
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EVGATech_LeeM Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads:
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1pcs: 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 BP Pads:
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2pcs: 51mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 38mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 14mm x 10mm x 2mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Could you possibly give me the dimensions for the 3090 KP? And thank you.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/01 13:46:08
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Fujipoly Engineering Resource Library You want about 10% compression Pads that are too firm - is bad - can stress the pcb & solder joints EKWB - How to correctly apply the thermal interface material (TIM)? (excerpt) When you remove the cooler you should clearly see the imprint of the edges of the elements on the PCB. When the edges aren’t visible you have no or bad contact. The contact can also be too good. You can observe that when you check if the motherboard/graphics card is severely bent in the area of the thermal pad. In extreme cases you can have a direct contact with the elements and that may lead to short circuiting your hardware.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/12 03:02:29
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EVGATech_LeeM What card are you looking for? I have the thermal pad dimensions.
Any official info on the Thermal Pad dimensions for the 3080 XC3 Hybrid Kit????
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/12 12:38:43
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EVGATech_LeeM Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads:
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1pcs: 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 BP Pads:
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2pcs: 51mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 38mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 14mm x 10mm x 2mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Noob question, is it safe to assume that the BP pad thickness is referring to the backplate side? Just want to confirm before I order some.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/04/14 03:42:41
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Any official info on the Thermal Pad dimensions for the 3080 XC3 Hybrid Kit????
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/05/10 05:26:33
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oaqewado Any official info on the Thermal Pad dimensions for the 3080 XC3 Hybrid Kit????
Can we get an update on this? I need to put my air cooler back on my 3080 XC3 and need to know what thickness pads to use because the putty tore when removing the air cooler initially, so I did a good cleaning and removed all the putty.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/05/28 12:41:23
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Good day, While talking about thermal pads and the Hybrid kit. Do you know if the VRAM heatsink that sits on top/around the cold plate is supposed to have thermal paste between the heatsink and plate? The hybrid kit comes with a small tube of thermal compound, but there are no instructions to use it. I ran across this photo and was wondering if the compound should be applied here (see attached) EVGATech_LeeM 3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/05/28 13:04:20
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Yes mine came with thermal paste on the areas between the extra copper plate and the actual cooler.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/05/28 14:11:27
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Krisnatharok Yes mine came with thermal paste on the areas between the extra copper plate and the actual cooler.
Was yours an upgrade kit, or the OEM assembled Hybrid? I'm not entirely sure if I checked for pre-applied thermal paste on mine, but I do know it came with a small packet of paste and another small foam bit that I didn't know how I was supposed to use.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/05/28 14:17:07
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Krisnatharok Yes mine came with thermal paste on the areas between the extra copper plate and the actual cooler.
Was yours an upgrade kit, or the OEM assembled Hybrid? I'm not entirely sure if I checked for pre-applied thermal paste on mine, but I do know it came with a small packet of paste and another small foam bit that I didn't know how I was supposed to use.
I got the hybrid upgrade kit, and it indeed it all came pre-applied on the middle plate and the core cooler as well. The tube is if you have to remove or remount it. I don't know what EVGA uses, so I'd recommend using something like Arctic Silver or Grizzly (or whatever your favorite TIM is).
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/05/28 16:43:14
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Krisnatharok Yes mine came with thermal paste on the areas between the extra copper plate and the actual cooler.
Was yours an upgrade kit, or the OEM assembled Hybrid? I'm not entirely sure if I checked for pre-applied thermal paste on mine, but I do know it came with a small packet of paste and another small foam bit that I didn't know how I was supposed to use.
I got the hybrid upgrade kit, and it indeed it all came pre-applied on the middle plate and the core cooler as well. The tube is if you have to remove or remount it. I don't know what EVGA uses, so I'd recommend using something like Arctic Silver or Grizzly (or whatever your favorite TIM is).
Well, I don't remember looking at the bottom of the plate, so maybe it's there, I'm not going to remove it just to check. I'm hoping my 3070 will get stepped up to a 3090 soon and I can sell this 3080 to my buddy. It that case, I'll have to re-paste it anyway and will verify there is thermal compound.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/06/04 09:04:39
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EVGATech_LeeM Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads:
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1pcs: 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 BP Pads:
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2pcs: 51mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 38mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 14mm x 10mm x 2mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Does this info also apply to the 3080TI FTW3 Hybrids?
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/06/09 21:49:48
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EVGATech_LeeM Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads:
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1pcs: 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 BP Pads:
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2pcs: 51mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 38mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 14mm x 10mm x 2mm
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3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads:
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Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Can you confirm where the 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm pad is that you speak of? I've been able to match most of these up with the a photo I found of the broken down PCB, but I don't see this particular pad anywhere. Can you confirm?
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Intoxicus
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/06/26 08:41:42
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How are we supposed to properly replace the thermal pads when it is not even possible to buy those heights? At retail you can only buy .5mm steps. There are no .25mm steps for commercially purchasable pads. Also you can not buy thermal putty, it is not sold as far as I am aware. Does it make sense to tell people to go spend almost $100 on pads when EVGA can sell replacement kits on their own for a profit to EVGA? That would be exactly what the customer needs and not result in overspending and waste. Especially when pads softness and compression is an issue. How long until someone damages their GPU due to too much compression force on ICs from incorrectly sized pads that don't compress enough? I tried asking for a replacement set of pads and putty and the tech that replied put more effort into selling me EVGA Thermal Paste than actually helping me. EVGATech_LeeM Sorry for the delay; I wanted to confirm something with the HYBRID cards/kits. 3090/3080 FTW3 Pads: 1pcs: 7.7mm x 6.5mm x 2.75mm 2pcs: 53mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 14mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 15mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 110mm x 5mm x 2.5mm 3090/3080 FTW3 BP Pads: 2pcs: 51mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 38mm x 12mm x 2mm 1pcs: 14mm x 10mm x 2mm 3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID/HYBRID Kit Pads: Thermal pads for VRAM heatsink: 2pcs: 49mm x 13mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 37.5mm x 12mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 13mm x 13mm x 2.25mm Thermal pads for standalone heatsink: 1pcs: 80mm x 4.5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 75mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions. Thermal pads for heatsink connected to the fan: 1pcs: 106mm x 5mm x 2.25mm 1pcs: 105mm x 11mm x 0.75mm - Note: This thermal pad is not initially on the HYBRID card. Thermal putty is used in its place. If you remove/clean the thermal putty, then replace it with a thermal pad of these dimensions.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/07/03 22:22:56
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ty_ger07 1) After reading other people's experiences with replacing thermal pads/putty on these cards, I wouldn't do it. Far too many people have seen no thermal improvement and many have actually seen worse thermal performance due to contact pressure issues. Some have spent weeks testing, tweaking, and buying different products just trying to get there temperatures back to what they were stock. 2) The way pads and thermal paste are thermally characterized is not standardized. The testing temperature is not standardized, and this has a huge impact of the W/mk result. Some are tested at 20c. Some are tested at 60c. The difference in W/mk result is massive when tested at different temperatures. This makes the W/mk comparison useless when making buying choices. Since you can't compare pads based on W/mk, it means you would have to buy a bunch of different ones and compare them by physically testing them. A lot of time and expense for a tiny difference in thermal performance (in the grand scheme of things). Not worth it.
I can confirm. I'm pretty annoyed. I paid $144 for a 3090 FTW3 Hybrid kit and my mem temps went from 92C in games to 100C in games unless I make the memory -200. Good job, EVGA. I love you guys, but y'all always seem to find a way to screw up every single generation of GPU releases. Now I'm over here looking for 2.25mm thermal pads so I can put the stock cooler on and sell it for a Strix. Thanks. Because it's either that, or I buy an EK block and go full custom loop just to get 72-78C mem temps like my Strix had. What a joke.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/07/03 23:03:07
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Something sounds off there. I went almost the exact opposite with the hybrid cooler, ~100C on air, ~80C on the hybrid. With it being a 3090 though, I wonder if it made the VRAM on the front cooler, but then the back is running hotter?
Looking at the design though, I do feel like the VRM plate could be thicker copper. It's pretty thin, like 0.030" thick and then doesn't have a ton of contact with the AIO. Going to a thicker copper plate and then using thinner thermal pads could possibly improve the situation. Not completely sure there is room for a thicker plate though.
Also, not sure it matters, but the shroud doesn't really guide the air into the heat sinks, and the AIO blocks a lot of the flow path to the second heatsink. I've been thinking about 3D print a new shroud that makes it like a triple slot card with a standard 90mm fan.
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Re: Thermal Pad Q&A
2021/07/04 00:38:53
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Mine's a 3090 as well.. just gonna test out 2.5mm pads. Otherwise I'm selling this garbage for a Strix. And it's terrible cause EVGA has the best customer service.
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