wedgoku
New Member
- Total Posts : 28
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/07/18 10:12:25
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
In 2019 I purchased an "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR" for $1399USD, since day 1 the card has been an horrible experience- with loud pump noise to an annoying VRM fan that clicks on & off @ idle. Please the best advice I can give is DON'T buy the EVGA RTX 3000 (hybrid models). EVGA purposely pushed out a defective product & you can hear many reports of customers all having loud AIO pump noise on the EVGA forums. All customer feedback on the EVGA forums was ignored/not taken seriously & EVGA still pushed out defective cards, I guarantee you EVGA is using the same loud pumps on the new RTX 3080 Hybrid.... :( The Asetek pump used in the RTX 20 series "Hybrid" models runs locked @ 100% speed with no way to control the rpm in EVGA Precision X1 & EVGA is most likely using the same Asetek pump, so you will have the same issue. Please read through the EVGA forums you can find many "Hybrid" customers who are complaining about the loud VRM fan clicking on & off @ idle & the loud pump noise (sounds like a small refrigerator running), I suggest you stay far away from the RTX 3000 Series "Hybrid" model! MODS don't delete this post & don't move it to the 20-series forums- it is related to RTX 3000 series....
post edited by wedgoku - 2020/09/01 23:05:31
|
blackforce
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 883
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2006/11/24 21:43:03
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/01 23:06:41
(permalink)
yeah i won't be spending 1500$ ever for a gpu anyway lol so it can be loud as hell.
|
Deeziel
New Member
- Total Posts : 18
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/03/29 11:36:21
- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/01 23:19:13
(permalink)
Been running my 1080ti SC2 Hybrid (11G-P4-6598-KR) since May 9th 2017 with 0 problems.
|
wedgoku
New Member
- Total Posts : 28
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/07/18 10:12:25
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/01 23:23:10
(permalink)
Deeziel
Been running my 1080ti SC2 Hybrid (11G-P4-6598-KR) since May 9th 2017 with 0 problems.
That card uses a different pump, RTX 20 series used I think a Asetek gen 6 pump which is very loud @ 100% rpm, there are many forum posts of customers going from an GTX 980ti hybrid to a RTX 2080ti Hybrid, all have complained about the pump noise on the new cards, the old 9-10 series is silent.
|
Duppex77
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 217
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/09/17 07:44:49
- Location: LONDON, ENGLAND
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 02:27:54
(permalink)
Due to the bad feedback on the 2xxx Hybrids I skipped the RTX Cards.
Looking forward the the reviews on the new 3 Series Hybrids
Asus X570 Dark Hero, Ryzen 5900x, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3600mhz, RTX 3090 FE, 500GB Samsung 980 Pro, BX500 Crucial 2TB, Be-quit 500DX, Corsair AX1000, Razer Basilisk U, Asus Scope TKL Deluxe, ASUS PG279QM G-SYNC. ** I miss the days when EVGA made great GPU's - GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 HYBRID she was so Sexy *** 
|
Seikenfreak
New Member
- Total Posts : 6
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/09/22 01:24:28
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 02:47:44
(permalink)
Also, I have a 2080ti Hybrid and its fine.. /shrug
To each his own.
|
ShawnB420
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 401
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/06/15 21:34:37
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 02:57:26
(permalink)
Quit buying AIO’s. Go custom loop
|
tigerlord
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 110
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2007/03/18 03:31:54
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 04:17:28
(permalink)
ShawnB420
Quit buying AIO’s. Go custom loop
Honestly a hybrid solution on a KPE card is just weird. Just go with a full coverage block at that point.
|
Desaccorde
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 104
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/11/29 10:42:43
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 04:21:39
(permalink)
DanielBlair
For your sake, they should delete it.
-you haven't ascertained that the new model will contain the same pump
-you haven't ascertained that the new model will not have adjustable (whether automatic or manual) pump speed
-they didn't "purposely" "push out" a "defective" product (avoid wild, unsubstantiated accusations classifiable as defamation)
-"I guarantee you" is not a guarantee of anything
-"you will have the same issue" presumes that the software won't be updated
-the pump noise, while audible in a dead-silent room, is inaudible if an air conditioner, air filter, or even small fan are in use (unless one's head is inside his case)
(We can all speculate as you have. Unless you're an EVGA insider, ...)
We actually know couple of that information already. "EVGA GeForce RTX 30 series HYBRID cards are the perfect All-In-One (AIO) cooling solution for NVIDIA’s latest and greatest. Featuring the latest Gen. 6 Asetek pump, control over both radiator and VRM fans with EVGA Precision X1, and RGB fans*, these cards will ensure that you remain one cool customer even while gaming in 4K. Available in both FTW3 and XC3 models. *RGB fans on FTW3 models only." The only question is, which Gen. did 20xx series used? If it was Gen. 6, I will avoid as well because nearly everyone complained about those.
|
Desaccorde
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 104
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/11/29 10:42:43
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 06:29:54
(permalink)
Isn't it? -you haven't ascertained that the new model will contain the same pump. / 20xx series had the same Gen. 6, that makes them equal with 30xx series. Kingpin was on Gen. 6.-you haven't ascertained that the new model will not have adjustable (whether automatic or manual) pump speed / They won't have adjustable pump speed according to concept page.-they didn't "purposely" "push out" a "defective" product (avoid wild, unsubstantiated accusations classifiable as defamation) / %100 right on 20xx series, but they ignored all the customer complaints and pushed the same products for 30xx then.-"I guarantee you" is not a guarantee of anything / %100 right.-"you will have the same issue" presumes that the software won't be updated / They're the same Gen, and they will likely have to same problems. It's a hardware issue, not software.-the pump noise, while audible in a dead-silent room, is inaudible if an air conditioner, air filter, or even small fan are in use (unless one's head is inside his case) / Depends on how sensitive you are and sitting close to the computer. But you might be right depending on your perspective. I can hear even a small buzzing sound in my room and case. I understand everyone's frustration because people paid good amount of money for those hardwares. You expect them to be perfect. Keep in mind that they're gonna cost at least $1.700 for RTX 3090 this time, probably much higher for FTW3. Edit: Fixed the ifs for you. I have all my info backed up but all you have is your ear. Thanks, I won't trust you.
post edited by Desaccorde - 2020/09/02 06:50:46
|
Desaccorde
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 104
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/11/29 10:42:43
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 06:36:42
(permalink)
Okay mate, good luck on your life to you.
|
Desaccorde
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 104
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/11/29 10:42:43
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 06:51:33
(permalink)
Fixed the ifs for you. I have all my info backed up but all you have is your ear and experience against tons of people who had problems. I will choose being a sceptic if I pay that much money, thanks.
|
Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
- Total Posts : 18926
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/04/09 20:05:53
- Location: Brooklyn, NYC.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 58
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 06:56:03
(permalink)
I have the 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid, and have zero pump noise issue, I can't even hear the pump but I know it's working from the vibration (and my GPU hasn't burst into flames). I understand a lot of people had issues with pump whine, but not everyone. Question; did you mount your radiator / radiator outlets below the level of the GPU? I believe there are numerous cases where just moving the radiator above the GPU plate resolved the issue. Check out this video from Gamers Nexus specifically on this issue (although they are talking about CPU cooling, but exact same principal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk
|
koroem
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 120
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/04 22:02:33
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:13:59
(permalink)
Sounds like you mounted the AIO wrong. Common mistake people don't understand, that Gamers Nexus video points out the issues. Should watch it.
Asus Maximus Hero XI wifi / Intel Core i9 9900k @ 5.2 / EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra (RMAed "fixed" version) 16GB G.Skill 3200 cl14 / 2x Samsung NVME evo 970 1TB Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w Caselabs Magnum TH10
|
ty_ger07
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 21174
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
- Location: traveler
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 270
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:19:35
(permalink)
koroem
Sounds like you mounted the AIO wrong. Common mistake people don't understand, that Gamers Nexus video points out the issues. Should watch it.
He already answered that he didn't. Should read it.
ASRock Z77 • Intel Core i7 3770K • EVGA GTX 1080 • Samsung 850 Pro • Seasonic PRIME 600W Titanium
My EVGA Score: 1546 • Zero Associates Points • I don't shill
|
ksgnow2010
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 466
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/09/21 17:56:35
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:20:43
(permalink)
I've had a 980 Ti hybrid, 1080 Ti hybrid, and 2080 Ti FTW3 hybrid...all EVGA cards...no issues.
Repeat...no issues.
Please don't come here with your personal experience and tell us all that everybody will see the same thing you saw.
|
Duppex77
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 217
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/09/17 07:44:49
- Location: LONDON, ENGLAND
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:28:22
(permalink)
Clearly people know that O/P is speaking about his personal experience with the Hybrid Card. Which I believe is not against the forum rules 
Asus X570 Dark Hero, Ryzen 5900x, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3600mhz, RTX 3090 FE, 500GB Samsung 980 Pro, BX500 Crucial 2TB, Be-quit 500DX, Corsair AX1000, Razer Basilisk U, Asus Scope TKL Deluxe, ASUS PG279QM G-SYNC. ** I miss the days when EVGA made great GPU's - GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 HYBRID she was so Sexy ***
|
Xaelias
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 193
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/12/03 19:50:08
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:38:31
(permalink)
He's not speaking about his personal experience. He's claiming authority and telling everybody to stay away from these cards and not buy them.
I had (terrible) coil whine on my first 2080. You didn't see me posting here about how nobody should buy an EVGA RTX 2080.
|
Desaccorde
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 104
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/11/29 10:42:43
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:57:15
(permalink)
DanielBlair
Duppex77
Clearly people know that O/P is speaking about his personal experience with the Hybrid Card.
Which I believe is not against the forum rules
Nope. He's asserting, given his anecdotal experience with the card (which many others haven't had), that the new version will suffer precisely the same fate. (He also defamed EVGA, as did one of the other guys I responded to above.)
If you are referring to me for defamation, I think you need to check or read what I wrote again Daniel. Stating the facts with sources is not defamation, they are other people's opinions which had many problems with the product. What I stated is completely based on the facts EVGA provided and the reviews of other users. How is that a defamation could you please elaborate before accusing people? If they have used the same product, new generation will likely suffer from the same. It's not defamation, a deduction based on the evidence and experience we have.
|
ksgnow2010
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 466
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/09/21 17:56:35
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 07:59:06
(permalink)
Xaelias
He's not speaking about his personal experience. He's claiming authority and telling everybody to stay away from these cards and not buy them.
I had (terrible) coil whine on my first 2080. You didn't see me posting here about how nobody should buy an EVGA RTX 2080.
^^^^ This Just look at the title of the thread for goodness sake: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
|
Desaccorde
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 104
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/11/29 10:42:43
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 08:23:51
(permalink)
DanielBlair
Desaccorde
DanielBlair
Duppex77
Clearly people know that O/P is speaking about his personal experience with the Hybrid Card.
Which I believe is not against the forum rules
Nope. He's asserting, given his anecdotal experience with the card (which many others haven't had), that the new version will suffer precisely the same fate. (He also defamed EVGA, as did one of the other guys I responded to above.)
If you are referring to me for defamation, I think you need to check or read what I wrote again Daniel. Stating the facts with sources is not defamation, they are other people's opinions which had many problems with the product. What I stated is completely based on the facts EVGA provided and the reviews of other users. How is that a defamation could you please elaborate before accusing people? If they have used the same product, new generation will likely suffer from the same. It's not defamation, a deduction based on the evidence and experience we have.
"%100 right on 20xx series, but they ignored all the and pushed the same products for 30xx then."
What's it going to take to get rid of you? (I'm asking nicely.) (Stop wasting our time, please.)
You can't get rid of the people when you accuse them for defamation and act like the lawyer of EVGA here. "Then" is the key there. Not only your time is wasted here, you're so cocky that you have the audacity to call people for defamation and ignoring all other people's opinion while saying that "It's imperceptable". How can you talk in absolutes when what you claim is totally subjective. What you say is imperceptible might be very perceptible to other people easily. We claim all these things according to the information EVGA provided, and all those forum reports, but instead of looking to them, you're being a pedantic and wasting other people's time. P.S.: Click the name of the people that you'd like to block, there's an option. Regards,
post edited by Desaccorde - 2020/09/02 08:26:56
|
wedgoku
New Member
- Total Posts : 28
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/07/18 10:12:25
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 09:59:50
(permalink)
https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2080-TI-FTW3-ULTRA-HYBRID-GAMING-pump-noise-m2931312.aspx https://forums.evga.com/Is-2080-ti-ftw3-ultra-hybrid-noise-still-an-issue-m3031620.aspxThere are many more forum posts with users just like me who are complaining about the loud pump noise, everything I have been saying has come from me & others experience. Before I owned a (custom modded) Nvidia reference GTX 980 that used a NZXT Kraken G10 Braket + 120MM Corsair H75 AIO, it was a hybrid mod & was completely silent. The problem with the next RTX 30 hybrid series like posted above, is that it WILL use the same "Asetek gen 6" pump & you will not be able to control the pump rpm speed , which means it will run @ 100% RPM all the time & be very loud. I tried have moving the 120MM AIO RTX 2080ti Hybrid radiator in all directions there are NO air bubbles in the loop, the problem is the pump is just too loud since it is running @ 100% speed. My current PC Case: (modified) LIAN LI PC-T60B open air Test-Bench using a 120mm XSPC radiator bracket for my RTX 2080ti hybrid. Noise is an issue since I'm on an open air test bench, putting my old GTX 980 hybrid mod in the same system you can tell the difference- it is night & day. all my information is from personal experience & looking @ the data already on the RTX 30 series , you will have the same pump issue since it is a design flaw from EVGA. I made this thread to help any new RTX 30 series customers from having the same horrible experience I have & to have them look @ other options since so many users have problems with the RTX 2080ti hybrid models.
|
ty_ger07
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 21174
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
- Location: traveler
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 270
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 10:06:32
(permalink)
DanielBlair
EVGA mods, where are you? Please assist...
(I'm new, here. Won't be here, long, but is there a "mute" or "block" button? Thanks.)
ASRock Z77 • Intel Core i7 3770K • EVGA GTX 1080 • Samsung 850 Pro • Seasonic PRIME 600W Titanium
My EVGA Score: 1546 • Zero Associates Points • I don't shill
|
Talon2020
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 300
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2016/05/26 12:17:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 10:28:25
(permalink)
I had the RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid and I had no issues outside of a desire for that 240mm AIO that KP got. It was silent on my unit and worked well. I do hope they have updated the AIO radiator to a 240mm for the 3000 series due to the increase in TDP.
i9 13900K | EVGA Z690 DARK | NVIDIA RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 8000 CL36 SK Hynix A-Die | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1000 P6 | LG C1 55 OLED 4K 120Hz G-Sync
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 10:45:27
(permalink)
Moved thread to the correct forum.
|
Xaelias
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 193
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/12/03 19:50:08
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 10:47:45
(permalink)
gaubry
I had the RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid and I had no issues outside of a desire for that 240mm AIO that KP got. It was silent on my unit and worked well. I do hope they have updated the AIO radiator to a 240mm for the 3000 series due to the increase in TDP.
https://forums.evga.com/240mm-Hybrids-Really-EVGA-m3073947.aspxThat person was complaining about the size of the rad being 240mm so I guess that answers your question :-) I'm not planning on buying an hybrid so I actually didn't look up their specs at all though.
|
BlueSaber80
New Member
- Total Posts : 92
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/07/20 00:28:38
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 10:55:33
(permalink)
The fact they are forcing us to make room for 240mm rads is retarded enough alone to just pass on Evga's lineup and see if AMD does a better job with RDNA2 launch
|
Xaelias
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 193
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/12/03 19:50:08
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 11:00:45
(permalink)
BlueSaber80
The fact they are forcing us to make room for 240mm rads is retarded enough alone to just pass on Evga's lineup and see if AMD does a better job with RDNA2 launch
They are "forcing" you because that's what the card needs. I don't understand this hate. If you can't fit a 240mm rad. Don't buy an hybrid model. If you can build a watercooling loop that fits your need, do that. Or buy an aircooled version. But you would be even more pissed if they sold it with a 120mm rad and it performed terribly...
|
Xaelias
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 193
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2015/12/03 19:50:08
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 11:06:26
(permalink)
BlueSaber80
Xaelias
They are "forcing" you because that's what the card needs.
I don't understand this hate.
If you can't fit a 240mm rad. Don't buy an hybrid model.
If you can build a watercooling loop that fits your need, do that.
Or buy an aircooled version.
But you would be even more pissed if they sold it with a 120mm rad and it performed terribly...
<REDACTED>
Do you even know anything about watercooling? Also your racism and homophobia is showing. Be careful.
post edited by Xaelias - 2020/09/02 12:32:27
|
cneuhauser
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1334
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2007/12/18 12:49:31
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 5
Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model
2020/09/02 12:10:47
(permalink)
ShawnB420
Quit buying AIO’s. Go custom loop
^^^^^THIS POST +1,000,000 for many reasons. First and foremost because I know for a fact that my loops are secure and produce the results I want. Secondly, because I clean my rig 1x ever 6months or so even though I have biocide and silver kill coils in there. In summary... if you want really nice things that perform well (same with cars), you have to take care of them, and they take work!
Entho Evolv Anthracite Grey ASUS ROG E-Gaming X299 i7 9800x 4.8ghz on water (Cuplex Vision block) EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra / Water / EK Block GSkill Trident Z - 32gig 2x Samsung 1TB SSD Evo Intel SSD 730 Series 240GB Windows 10 Ultimate EVGA 1600 SuperNova T2 Samsung G7 Faker 32" 240hz monitor Asus ROG Swift PG329Q 175hz monitor SteelSeries Arctis Pro+DAC B&W 801s, Driven by Sumo Amp via DAC
|