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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 08:01:10 (permalink)
Which gen. was the 2080ti Kingpin? I’ve had it since launch and it’s been perfect. No complaints. It keeps the card cool and is super quiet. If the FTW Ultra 3080 has the same CLC as the 2080ti Kingpin I would have no issue in buying.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 08:20:35 (permalink)
My 2080 ti hybrid was fine...
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 13:26:44 (permalink)
Except that...
 
People have a choice. You can go Hybrid with a ASETEK AIO Pump or you can go with Custom Watercooling.
 
Going Custom Watercooling is not so hard or bad as people think it is.
 
All you need is
 
1) Fans
2) Radiator
3) Pump
4) Reservoir
5) Fittings
6) Distilled water
7) Tubing
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 16:04:17 (permalink)
My 1070Ti SC Hybrid is a BEAST. Dunno what you had haha. I overclock to near 2.1Ghz WHILE gaming and caps at 50C, and it's silent.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 16:09:45 (permalink)
mchang1984
Except that...
 
People have a choice. You can go Hybrid with a ASETEK AIO Pump or you can go with Custom Watercooling.
 
Going Custom Watercooling is not so hard or bad as people think it is.
 
All you need is
 
1) Fans
2) Radiator
3) Pump
4) Reservoir
5) Fittings
6) Distilled water
7) Tubing




Yes and no.  It's not so bad once all is said and done but people still need to know all that is involved including not using certain biocides with certain metals, mixing metals, maintenance involved, cleaning new rads, drain, priming the pumps, 24 hr leak test, etc.  

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 16:20:11 (permalink)
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Yes and no.  It's not so bad once all is said and done but people still need to know all that is involved including not using certain biocides with certain metals, mixing metals, maintenance involved, cleaning new rads, drain, priming the pumps, 24 hr leak test, etc.  

True that. It takes quite a bit of time and patience, but the results are worth it if you can put up the effort. I switched to AiO for GPU and CPU for the last 5 years or so as a convenient compromise (and have had no issues whatsoever), but this build I'm likely going to custom loop again ...once there are GPU blocks available (and GPUs to attach them to lol).
 
 

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 16:28:43 (permalink)
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Yes and no.  It's not so bad once all is said and done but people still need to know all that is involved including not using certain biocides with certain metals, mixing metals, maintenance involved, cleaning new rads, drain, priming the pumps, 24 hr leak test, etc.  

True that. It takes quite a bit of time and patience, but the results are worth it if you can put up the effort. I switched to AiO for GPU and CPU for the last 5 years or so as a convenient compromise (and have had no issues whatsoever), but this build I'm likely going to custom loop again ...once there are GPU blocks available (and GPUs to attach them to lol).
 



Totally with you there and it has crossed my mind about going with simplicity (Hybrid) with all the bling, etc.  I cringe when I think of the day I have to move my 900D with a loop in it for maintenance and hardware changes, etc.  Don't get me wrong, it's been fun but if something arises, I'm totally not in the mood like I once was.  

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 17:55:39 (permalink)
I will stick with air cooled, lot easier to yank the card(s) if there is a problem
 

  


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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/17 20:26:01 (permalink)
I'm currently running a custom loop for my GPU's and while it's fantastic and more often than not, a better option for performance gains/temps etc as over have mentioned I've kind of grown out of the work and research involved with a custom loop and the idea of an AIO all said and done, plug in, mount Rad and go is rather appealing. 
 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 03:39:06 (permalink)
I've been running a 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid for almost 2 years, and a 2070 Super Hybrid for a few weeks before I got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra in last Tuesday, never had any issues with either of the Hybrid models having "horrible noise", it wasn't at all noticeable over the pump/fan noise of the rest of my system.  
People getting Hybrid cards need to remember they're just like regular AIOs, if you install the Radiator below the pump, you will get a lot more noise, because of how they work & where the air ends up (at the top of the loop, which would be the pump, if you have the radiator mounted below it).  Following the little "install card" that comes with them is important.
Not saying you did that, but I'm sure some people might.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 06:16:29 (permalink)
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In 2019 I purchased an "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR" for $1399USD, since day 1 the card has been an horrible experience- with loud pump noise to an annoying VRM fan that clicks on & off @ idle. Please the best advice I can give is DON'T buy the EVGA RTX 3000 (hybrid models). EVGA purposely pushed out a defective product & you can hear many reports of customers all having loud AIO pump noise on the EVGA forums. All customer feedback on the EVGA forums was ignored/not taken seriously & EVGA still pushed out defective cards, I guarantee you EVGA is using the same loud pumps on the new RTX 3080 Hybrid.... :(
 
The Asetek pump used in the RTX 20 series "Hybrid" models runs locked @ 100% speed with no way to control the rpm in EVGA Precision X1 & EVGA is most likely using the same Asetek pump, so you will have the same issue. Please read through the EVGA forums you can find many "Hybrid" customers who are complaining about the loud VRM fan clicking on & off @ idle & the loud pump noise (sounds like a small refrigerator running), I suggest you stay far away from the RTX 3000 Series "Hybrid" model!
 
MODS don't delete this post & don't move it to the 20-series forums- it is related to RTX 3000 series....




WHY on earth wouldn't you send it back with all the issues you've had? I would never NEVER keep something that clearly has troubles!
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 07:15:10 (permalink)
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...you can find many "Hybrid" customers who are complaining about the loud VRM fan clicking on & off @ idle & the loud pump noise (sounds like a small refrigerator running)...

WHY on earth wouldn't you send it back with all the issues you've had? I would never NEVER keep something that clearly has troubles!

Not to mention that my full-size refrigerator doesn't reach anything near the level of 'loud'--any mini-fridge that is bothersome would clearly be malfunctioning...
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 08:40:29 (permalink)
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Except that...
 
People have a choice. You can go Hybrid with a ASETEK AIO Pump or you can go with Custom Watercooling.
 
Going Custom Watercooling is not so hard or bad as people think it is.
 
All you need is
 
1) Fans
2) Radiator
3) Pump
4) Reservoir
5) Fittings
6) Distilled water
7) Tubing




Well it’s not quite as simple as all that.  If I had a job in the tech industry, extra money, time, or computer parts, I’d definitely explore making a custom loop.  I like AIO’s because you get the advantages of water cooling without the complication of dealing with a custom loop.  Sure, the cooling might not be quite as good with an AIO as with a custom loop, but you get relative ease as a trade off.
 
The two things keeping me from building a custom loop are fear of destroying my pricey computer parts due to ignorance or making a mistake, along with the potential headache of maintaining a custom a loop and getting around it or having to deal with draining the water and whatnot if I need to remove any parts from the pc for tinkering/troubleshooting.
 
Now I’m not saying by any means that custom loops are bad.  I think they’re really cool, and if I had more time/resources and an extra computer to play around with, I’d almost certainly build one if only to experience it and to learn more about them, but for now they’re not for me.  Having said all that, it‘s worth noting that we’re approaching the point where vapor chamber cooling may supplant liquid and traditional air cooling altogether, since that tech is arguably superior to both (and simpler/less risky than dealing with liquid), but while there are a few vapor chamber coolers around, they aren’t yet widely available in a general way.  I’m looking forward to seeing how that tech evolves.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 11:16:04 (permalink)
No issues with my 1080ti or 2080ti Hybrids.
 
I have a custom loop but the time/effort isn't for everyone.  Not to mention the increased cost for the waterblocks, tubes, fittings, coolant, heat gun, etc.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 11:30:28 (permalink)
I used hybrid kits for several past generations. 2080 hybrid kit was the worst one. It had a loud buzzing noise which was annoying and eventually I removed hybrid kit completely. I had no complaints about 980 or 1080 kit. I disagree about staying away, but this time around I will definitely wait for feedback before buying one.
 
Old thread on issue - https://forums.evga.com/I...-Buzzing-m2896453.aspx
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 15:41:37 (permalink)
 
I have had zero issues with pump noise or coil whine with the 2080Ti Hybrid AiO which I've been using since late December 2019, and same with the Hybrid cooler EVGA made for the Titan X Pascal which I used from early 2017 until end of 2019. Zero. As has been discussed on other threads (and Gamers Nexus even made a video of it), radiator placement can make a huge difference with AiO coolers, both with CPU and GPU blocks.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=BbGomv195sk
 
 
 
 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 16:27:54 (permalink)
 
Is it possible that the Asetek 6 Gen pump has had adjustments in the last couple years?
 
Also does anybody know what type of pump is in the H55 AIO, I can't seem to find that tidbit when looking up specs.  Just curious if Corsair use them too.
 

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 16:44:04 (permalink)
Both of my hybrid kingpins are quiet as can be although I did put a hybrid kit on my 2080 Ti Ftw3 before I gave it to my brother and it has gotten noisy.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/18 17:02:14 (permalink)
Yes, stay far away from the hybrid model, especially if you are a bot/scalper. 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/19 22:05:23 (permalink)
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People getting Hybrid cards need to remember they're just like regular AIOs, if you install the Radiator below the pump, you will get a lot more noise, because of how they work & where the air ends up (at the top of the loop, which would be the pump, if you have the radiator mounted below it).  Following the little "install card" that comes with them is important.
Not saying you did that, but I'm sure some people might.


 
+1 

It's best to sometimes tilt the case so the bubbles make their way back to the rad.
 
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Except that...
 
People have a choice. You can go Hybrid with a ASETEK AIO Pump or you can go with Custom Watercooling.
 
Going Custom Watercooling is not so hard or bad as people think it is.
 
All you need is
 
1) Fans
2) Radiator
3) Pump
4) Reservoir
5) Fittings
6) Distilled water
7) Tubing




Well it’s not quite as simple as all that.  If I had a job in the tech industry, extra money, time, or computer parts, I’d definitely explore making a custom loop.  I like AIO’s because you get the advantages of water cooling without the complication of dealing with a custom loop.  Sure, the cooling might not be quite as good with an AIO as with a custom loop, but you get relative ease as a trade off.
 
The two things keeping me from building a custom loop are fear of destroying my pricey computer parts due to ignorance or making a mistake, along with the potential headache of maintaining a custom a loop and getting around it or having to deal with draining the water and whatnot if I need to remove any parts from the pc for tinkering/troubleshooting.
 

 
idshadow
No issues with my 1080ti or 2080ti Hybrids.
 
I have a custom loop but the time/effort isn't for everyone.  Not to mention the increased cost for the waterblocks, tubes, fittings, coolant, heat gun, etc.


 
Agree with you both.
 
People shouldn't just go filling up a shopping cart with custom cooling gear without doing proper research.  It's really not that difficult but there needs to be patience and of course, having a backup PC is always nice but over the decade in most cases, I haven't seen that many have accidents.  I think it's more of the minor bunch who skipped steps or what have you.
 
One of the main reasons you do a 24 hr leak test with just the pumps powered and nothing else is to check for any leaks while using towels at all possible points of leakage.  They even have air pump leak testers being used so you don't have to fill a loop if one decides to go that route.  I just leak test and if everything passes, I just power it all back on.  Of course I'll check all points a couple of more times just for added confidence.  
 
yaggaz
 
Is it possible that the Asetek 6 Gen pump has had adjustments in the last couple years?
 
Also does anybody know what type of pump is in the H55 AIO, I can't seem to find that tidbit when looking up specs.  Just curious if Corsair use them too.
 


Yes, Corsair uses Asetek.  Actually ever mfger/AIB with a CPU block/pump design does because Asetek owns the patent.  It's just rebranded.
 
I should also note, Gen 6 was also used for the Corsair CPU AIO coolers where there wasn't any major issues with AFAIK.
 
As for AIO pumps, they're usually around the 6w range or slightly more unless they've got them running for less now. 
 
Really a pain trying to get this kind of info.  Hope EVGA starts including the specs of the AIOs, incl. the pump, fan, etc. next to the GPU specs some day.  
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/10/20 08:50:06 (permalink)
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In 2019 I purchased an "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR" for $1399USD, since day 1 the card has been an horrible experience- with loud pump noise to an annoying VRM fan that clicks on & off @ idle. Please the best advice I can give is DON'T buy the EVGA RTX 3000 (hybrid models). EVGA purposely pushed out a defective product & you can hear many reports of customers all having loud AIO pump noise on the EVGA forums. All customer feedback on the EVGA forums was ignored/not taken seriously & EVGA still pushed out defective cards, I guarantee you EVGA is using the same loud pumps on the new RTX 3080 Hybrid.... :(
 
The Asetek pump used in the RTX 20 series "Hybrid" models runs locked @ 100% speed with no way to control the rpm in EVGA Precision X1 & EVGA is most likely using the same Asetek pump, so you will have the same issue. Please read through the EVGA forums you can find many "Hybrid" customers who are complaining about the loud VRM fan clicking on & off @ idle & the loud pump noise (sounds like a small refrigerator running), I suggest you stay far away from the RTX 3000 Series "Hybrid" model!
 
MODS don't delete this post & don't move it to the 20-series forums- it is related to RTX 3000 series....




WHY on earth wouldn't you send it back with all the issues you've had? I would never NEVER keep something that clearly has troubles!




At the time I was worried about RMAing my RTX2080ti, back then most RTX 2080ti that used "Micron memory" had problems with artifacting (green space invaders on your monitor), I got lucky with my card having a later batch that came with the holy grail "Samsung Memory", even before I purchased the card I had the same problem we are having with the RTX 3000 Series, I was waiting 1 year to purchase my RTX 2080ti & I had to fight defective cards, I had to fight limited availability with Crypto-miners/scalpers purchasing the entire stock of graphics card. So it was my decision to keep the card because you would never get another RTX 2080ti in stock. I used too have a custom watercoled system before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj2lxuC2yFk&list=PLgGgyuBHacsx4x3D-xTaM99feKuZYxWU1&index=23 & the entire reason I went with the hybrid model was so I didn't have to deal with any maintenance of filling/draining my watercooling loop every 6 months. I made this thread to help any future 30-series customers, for me the loud pump issue is heard more when my PC is @ idel & not gaming.
post edited by wedgoku - 2020/10/20 09:06:36
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 05:35:26 (permalink)
Does the 3080 hybrid use the same pump as the 2080ti hybrid?
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 06:57:46 (permalink)
What i’d really like is a pump that is in the rad like msi version. This would give many peeps more options regarding the placement of their aio rads. I for once am fked big time since i have a 680x and have an aio top mount for cpu and i’ll have to front mount the 3080 hybrid with like 2-3mm clearance between the rad and the end of the card (288mm). If the pump was in the rad, mounting it bottom would be great from a visual and performance standpoint. So i’m in between right now HC or front mounted AIO or bottom mount and live with the noise if the performance are acceptable.

Compromises...
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 07:59:39 (permalink)
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What i’d really like is a pump that is in the rad like msi version. This would give many peeps more options regarding the placement of their aio rads. I for once am fked big time since i have a 680x and have an aio top mount for cpu and i’ll have to front mount the 3080 hybrid with like 2-3mm clearance between the rad and the end of the card (288mm). If the pump was in the rad, mounting it bottom would be great from a visual and performance standpoint. So i’m in between right now HC or front mounted AIO or bottom mount and live with the noise if the performance are acceptable.

Compromises...


Orient the hoses on the top rad towards the back to get a little more wiggle room. I'm on the same boat. Also, if you mount gpu on the vertical slots it will push the gpu further towards the glass door and rear of the case and you will get much better front clearance.
post edited by eg1122 - 2020/11/18 08:02:04
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 08:04:53 (permalink)
Yes for the top mount i’ll have to flip it like you said and mounting the 3080 hybrid vertically would break the visuals for me but your point is valid this would fix the space problems. If it comes to that i’ll do it, otherwise i’ll try everything else
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 08:09:56 (permalink)
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Yes for the top mount i’ll have to flip it like you said and mounting the 3080 hybrid vertically would break the visuals for me but your point is valid this would fix the space problems. If it comes to that i’ll do it, otherwise i’ll try everything else


Yeah I'm definitely going to play with it for a while to see what is best. Sadly I dont think push-pull on gpu rad will be possible with this case, which is what I wanted to do. But like you said..... compromises.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 08:42:36 (permalink)
I AGREE NOBODY SHOULD BUY A 30XX SERIES HYBRID MODEL!
 
 
 
 
 
 
It will make it way easier for me to get one.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 08:47:00 (permalink)
I believe I had mentioned it in the main 3080/90 hybrid thread but I'll be sure to bring it up here as well.
 
     I'm kinda bummed with EVGA for the one feature that they left out of their hybrid line-up. Pump speed control. I realize that there are a ton of people here that are totally satisfied with their own 2000 series hybrid cards working as they expected to. That is all good and fine by me, don't let me get in the way of your satisfaction with your product or experience with such. I myself bought a 2080 Super to enter the step-up queue and while the performance I've gotten has been AMAZING, the noise has been irritating to say the least. The pumps on these are running at full tilt and that has been creating a low pitched whine. Most people don't really care about it (either due to not being bothered or having an ambient noise level that is higher than the pump whine output) but I do care on the other hand. 
 
     All I want for Christmas is the ability to change the pump speed without having to get an adapter cable and route it to the motherboard manually. I will be doing this myself to get the noise under control and still have great performance, but no hardware support right out of the box is slightly annoying... That and a way to swap the pump and rad out for a 360 instead of 240. The Kingpin gets one, but why can't we? It would be nice for those of us who have the space available. I understand that can be overkill for the 3080 perhaps, but hey, I'm an enthusiast. I want to get things optimized and tuned how I prefer and a 360 is what I had originally slapped onto my 2080Ti FE with a G12 bracket. Temps were incredible even when overclocked, and the performance gains I saw were worth it. (I was also able to keep the fans set to abt 300-400 RPM over idle speeds and STILL get insane overclocking performance with dead silence.) One can dream right?.. Right?
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 08:58:01 (permalink)
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I AGREE NOBODY SHOULD BUY A 30XX SERIES HYBRID MODEL!
 
 
 
 
 
 
It will make it way easier for me to get one.


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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/11/18 10:13:59 (permalink)
with an O11 dynamic, lian li case, where would be best mount location of a 240mm hybrid if i already am using the top mount for a 360aio for cpu. front? bottom? would tubes be top or bottom of rad if front mounted. also, is there room to mount a third 120mm above or below a 240mm rad on this case? or does the metal of the rad not make it possible?
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