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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/02 14:23:46 (permalink)
I can’t wait to pick up a hybrid model so I can hear the sound of that Asetek Gen 6 horsepower.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/02 15:29:17 (permalink)
i had the hybrid 2080TI for 1 year, it served me well, i did the mod with connecting the pump to the motherboard and powering it with DC from a pwm header, solved the problem of the pump noise when idle, clocked to 2150, stayed no higher than 68c with 8200 memory, sold it yesterday at a loss of 300 usd after a years use, i like the aio because it was quiet, i might consider an air cooled card , i think the 3090 kingpin will be 2200 usd easily, cant justify that amount on a gpu .
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/02 16:05:21 (permalink)
I don't know about pump issues, but I can for sure say the software side is buggy when it comes to the hybrid kits. Every time I start up my system the fans on my Rad and GPU spin up then stop dead when windows starts to load. Once in windows I have to go to the Precision X1 software, unlink my fans, turn off auto, manually set the fans to max, apply settings. Then I relink the fans, turn on auto, apply and the fans normalize and I can get on with my day. Each time I've tried asking for support I've been old I'd need to take the kit apart and put the card back to stock and then return the card. They won't even bother checking my system configuration, or ask if other stupid software might be conflicting like NZXT's CAM, or Corsair, or Gigabytes, or the other plethora of software you have to have installed to manage the hellscape that is RGB. Nope "take it apart and send it in" Come on guys! The fan spins and the moment windows loads the fans stop dead and I have to do the Precision X1 dance to get it going again. That's a software/driver issue.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/02 21:49:11 (permalink)
Have had a GTX 980Ti for over 5 Years, I had a small issue at first with Pump Noise, but I believe it was due to the location of where I installed it. I since then changed the Case and its working fine, no issues, no noises.
 
I'll probably end up buying the 3080 Hybrid, after seeing some videos and test results.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/02 22:28:43 (permalink)
My EVGA 980 ti hybrid has never had any issues. It’s my only backup gpu and I have EVGA to thank for the extended 10 year warranty. EVGA 4 LYFE.


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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/02 23:09:39 (permalink)
I think a few things are open to interpretation: Pump speed which is locked on those pumps - with consideration of the amount of overclocking that takes place on those specific Hybrid models - and the vicinity or placement of the computer in where the card and its pump is located to you. If your computer is very close to you, the louder it is, pretty sure we can all agree with that. You can have 10 silent Noctua fans in your system at 0DB but have a pump that is pushing coolant at that 100% speed (and from my experience ;P) you will have a bit of pump whine that will over take the rest of your silent computer. Mounting is absolutely a factor - however not the end all be all - but the video shared in this thread is mainly aimed at longevity. Having customers control the speed of the pump is a grey area where someone just happens to forget to adjust their pump speed under extreme load?! Card and coolant can get hotter and overheat causing damage to the die. This is not to say some cards wont have a bad pump - saying this is the reason to not obtain one is harsh. 

 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/03 00:22:19 (permalink)
I agree with this post. I had the 980ti Hybrid and it was quiet as hell, i thought the 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid would be the same. It was definitely not. It doesn't matter where or how you place the radiator in the cpu, as i tried everywhere, it also doesn't matter if you mount the GPU vertically or horizontally, have also tried. You wont have a problem while gaming, as you will be probably wearing a headset or whatever, however when you are simply chilling on your pc, i swear the noise is so loud i can hear it from outside the room, it is exactly how it is described, and it ruins the whole experience. I actually returned my 2080ti Hybrid and got the aircooled one instead as i couldn't stand the noise while i wasn't gaming, its just too loud. This being said if if EVGA hasnt changed the pump manufacturer for the 3080, this does mean that the complaints and customers have been ignored, you can read multiple and multiple threads/posts about this issue, and it is not the rare few, how can this be ignored, i do not know.  I will wait a while before i buy the 3080 hybrid as i want to hear people feedback on the pumps, but like the OP said i doubt there will be a change, thus i might end up switching brands. 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/05 14:11:45 (permalink)
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Due to the bad feedback on the 2xxx Hybrids I skipped the RTX Cards.

Looking forward the the reviews on the new 3 Series Hybrids



 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/05 14:19:38 (permalink)
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Quit buying AIO’s. Go custom loop



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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/05 14:51:00 (permalink)
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If you can't fit a 240mm rad. Don't buy an hybrid model.
 



 
Heh what about this idea? I've been intrigued by what a radiator outside a PC case away from all the other heat would achieve:
 

 
 
 

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/05 15:14:31 (permalink)
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Heh what about this idea? I've been intrigued by what a radiator outside a PC case away from all the other heat would achieve:

I would assume significantly better temperatures, unless you run an open case like I do.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/05 15:17:11 (permalink)
My 980 Ti Hybrid has ran completely silent for 5 years :D


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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/05 20:13:34 (permalink)
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Heh what about this idea? I've been intrigued by what a radiator outside a PC case away from all the other heat would achieve:

I would assume significantly better temperatures, unless you run an open case like I do.


A lot more dust too ;-)
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 10:29:08 (permalink)
I think it's strange that EVGA is still releasing "hybrids." By now, they should have full coverage blocks on their AIOs.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 10:56:17 (permalink)
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I think it's strange that EVGA is still releasing "hybrids." By now, they should have full coverage blocks on their AIOs.




I also wondered why, most likely down to Costs Vs Returns 🤔

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 13:44:02 (permalink)
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A lot more dust too ;-)



Well, sure--assuming the user's case is effectively filtered. If not, I don't think dust build-up would be significantly different than if it were drawing air from inside the case. Do most people give much mind to filtration? I would assume not, but I don't know.
 
One could still filter the airflow with a radiator that is entirely external, if dust is a big issue in his environment.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 16:48:24 (permalink)
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A lot more dust too ;-)



Well, sure--assuming the user's case is effectively filtered. If not, I don't think dust build-up would be significantly different than if it were drawing air from inside the case. Do most people give much mind to filtration? I would assume not, but I don't know.
 
One could still filter the airflow with a radiator that is entirely external, if dust is a big issue in his environment.


Every case I've own in the past 7 years have had filters in front of fan intakes is all.
Most people might not think about it.
But the cases manufacturers did for us :-)

And dust definitely accumulate in something like radiator.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 17:15:13 (permalink)
Just throwing my hat in the ring. My 2080TI FTW3 Hybrid pump definitely puts out an audible whine that would annoy me if I didn't use a headset. My 980TI Hybrid was silent as could be though.
 
That said, I still prefer the thermals and even with the pump whine, it's overall more quiet than the stock cooler it came with while maintaining slightly better thermals (I basically only went from air cooled 72c to around 62 to 65c with the Hybrid cooler.)

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 19:17:32 (permalink)
I wasn't aware there were some noise issues with the 2080 Ti Hybrid, even so it doesn't mean it will be a problem with the 3000 series cards. Noise levels will definitely be covered by reviewers. The cards haven't even been seen yet so it's too early to draw any conclusions. Something to be aware of though.


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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 19:20:25 (permalink)
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I wasn't aware there were some noise issues with the 2080 Ti Hybrid, even so it doesn't mean it will be a problem with the 3000 series cards. Noise levels will definitely be covered by reviewers. The cards haven't even been seen yet so it's too early to draw any conclusions. Something to be aware of though.

It will only be covered by reviewers if it affects a very high percentage of the yield.
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/06 20:53:16 (permalink)
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In 2019 I purchased an "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR" for $1399USD, since day 1 the card has been an horrible experience- with loud pump noise to an annoying VRM fan that clicks on & off @ idle. Please the best advice I can give is DON'T buy the EVGA RTX 3000 (hybrid models). EVGA purposely pushed out a defective product & you can hear many reports of customers all having loud AIO pump noise on the EVGA forums. All customer feedback on the EVGA forums was ignored/not taken seriously & EVGA still pushed out defective cards, I guarantee you EVGA is using the same loud pumps on the new RTX 3080 Hybrid.... :(
 
The Asetek pump used in the RTX 20 series "Hybrid" models runs locked @ 100% speed with no way to control the rpm in EVGA Precision X1 & EVGA is most likely using the same Asetek pump, so you will have the same issue. Please read through the EVGA forums you can find many "Hybrid" customers who are complaining about the loud VRM fan clicking on & off @ idle & the loud pump noise (sounds like a small refrigerator running), I suggest you stay far away from the RTX 3000 Series "Hybrid" model!
 
MODS don't delete this post & don't move it to the 20-series forums- it is related to RTX 3000 series....


 How are the hoses on the radiator oriented?
If they're on top that can cause pump noise and the rad should be oriented so that hoses are on the bottom.

I have a Hybrid Kit and it's awesome and works very well.

Also how can you judge the 3000 series hybrid kit before anyone has their hands on one?
You're making an assumption it will be exactly the same as the 2000 series Hybrid Kit.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 01:10:35 (permalink)
No one is making assumptions. The problem isnt with EVGA its with their supplier Asetek. The same Gen 6 Pumps which were used on the 2080ti's will be used on the 30 series, its already been announced: 

"EVGA GeForce RTX 30 series HYBRID cards are the perfect All-In-One (AIO) cooling solution for NVIDIA’s latest and greatest. Featuring the latest Gen. 6 Asetek pumpcontrol over both radiator and VRM fans with EVGA Precision X1, and RGB fans*....." 
Hose orientation don't matter too. Only problem is somehow, somewhere, someone thinks that the noise is normal and not considered to be an issue.
 
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 01:49:03 (permalink)
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In 2019 I purchased an "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR" for $1399USD, since day 1 the card has been an horrible experience- with loud pump noise to an annoying VRM fan that clicks on & off @ idle. Please the best advice I can give is DON'T buy the EVGA RTX 3000 (hybrid models). EVGA purposely pushed out a defective product & you can hear many reports of customers all having loud AIO pump noise on the EVGA forums. All customer feedback on the EVGA forums was ignored/not taken seriously & EVGA still pushed out defective cards, I guarantee you EVGA is using the same loud pumps on the new RTX 3080 Hybrid.... :(
 
The Asetek pump used in the RTX 20 series "Hybrid" models runs locked @ 100% speed with no way to control the rpm in EVGA Precision X1 & EVGA is most likely using the same Asetek pump, so you will have the same issue. Please read through the EVGA forums you can find many "Hybrid" customers who are complaining about the loud VRM fan clicking on & off @ idle & the loud pump noise (sounds like a small refrigerator running), I suggest you stay far away from the RTX 3000 Series "Hybrid" model!
 
MODS don't delete this post & don't move it to the 20-series forums- it is related to RTX 3000 series....


How are the hoses on the radiator oriented?
If they're on top that can cause pump noise and the rad should be oriented so that hoses are on the bottom.

I have a Hybrid Kit and it's awesome and works very well.

Also how can you judge the 3000 series hybrid kit before anyone has their hands on one?
You're making an assumption it will be exactly the same as the 2000 series Hybrid Kit.




Desaccorde
Isn't it? 
 
-you haven't ascertained that the new model will contain the same pump. / 20xx series had the same Gen. 6, that makes them equal with 30xx series. Kingpin was on Gen. 6.
-you haven't ascertained that the new model will not have adjustable (whether automatic or manual) pump speed / They won't have adjustable pump speed according to concept page.
-they didn't "purposely" "push out" a "defective" product (avoid wild, unsubstantiated accusations classifiable as defamation) / %100 right on 20xx series, but they ignored all the customer complaints and pushed the same products for 30xx then.
-"I guarantee you" is not a guarantee of anything / %100 right.
-"you will have the same issue" presumes that the software won't be updated / They're the same Gen, and they will likely have to same problems. It's a hardware issue, not software.
-the pump noise, while audible in a dead-silent room, is inaudible if an air conditioner, air filter, or even small fan are in use (unless one's head is inside his case) / Depends on how sensitive you are and sitting close to the computer. But you might be right depending on your perspective. I can hear even a small buzzing sound in my room and case.
 
I understand everyone's frustration because people paid good amount of money for those hardwares. You expect them to be perfect. Keep in mind that they're gonna cost at least $1.700 for RTX 3090 this time, probably much higher for FTW3.
 
Edit: Fixed the ifs for you. I have all my info backed up but all you have is your ear. Thanks, I won't trust you.
 


 
I have the tubes on my EVGA RTX 2080TI Hybrid facing down (like it tells you in the installation instructions) there are NO assumptions please read what "Desaccorde" posted on the first page, if you click the concept link posted above you can see the "NEW" EVGA RTX 3080 Hybrid is using the same Asetek gen 6 AIO pump that is currently used in my RTX 2080ti XC Gaming/FTW Hybrid, It also states you can only control the VRM/Radiator fan which means it is 100% the same pump. Yes the pump works but TBH @ idel it does NOT need to run @ 100%, the AIO pump should have been PWM controlled with the vrm fan or EVGA could have used an inline resister to drop the voltage on the pump. Running the pump @ 70% will still provide almost the same temperatures as 100% speed. There are users on the forums who have taken apart their RTX 2080ti hybrids & used a PWM pump splitter cable & connected that to their motherboards, they then lowered the RPM of the pump, which in returned lowered the overall noise significantly. IMO I feel a $1399USD+ card should have been tested 24 hours before leaving the factory, we are talking about very expensive hardware here- when I can hear my RTX 2080ti hybrid @ idel far away in another room, you know your product is defective!
 
Alot of people for some reason think I installed my RTX 2080ti 120mm radiator incorrectly & think it was a user error & are sitting here trying to defend their product/brand, I'm just telling you my personal experience with my RTX 2080ti hybrid- which is also related to the RTX 3080 since it uses the same pump. We told EVGA about the issues on the forums but was mostly ignored & IMO the cards should have been recalled & people got their money back or a working replacement. Some users did RMA their cards but the loud AIO pump issue was still there & the pumps are still very loud @ idel(high pitched whine mixed with a small refrigerator running), you guys are also forgetting about the VRM fan that is constantly clicking on & off, for some weird reason EVGA decided to use a a different fluid bearing fan for the 20 generation- which is another defect...
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 02:47:50 (permalink)
If it's something that worries people I would wait for online reviews and check the forums after the card is released. Odds are good if an issue is widespread you would hear about it pretty quickly from those sources of information.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 03:49:55 (permalink)
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 There are users on the forums who have taken apart their RTX 2080ti hybrids & used a PWM pump splitter cable & connected that to their motherboards, they then lowered the RPM of the pump, which in returned lowered the overall noise significantly. 
 



Did you ever try that method yourself? I was just watching the how-to video here.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db8P3x-gD-s
 
   Something funny is that in my quest to control my Super temps I couldn't stand the noise the evga fans made on the Super Black, so installed the Kraken G12 with a silent wings 3 fan (tossed what came with it) / AIO setup.     What was weird was the H55 pump sounded similar to the noise at the start of the video link I pasted above, on normal speed.  Oddly enough switching it to full speed in the bios settings made it go perfectly quiet.     
 
The other option I had was when I was holding the pump in my hand before I attached it to the card, just had it plugged into the MB in bios, it was really noisy like in the video.  Just wanted to test it working and it's noise level, when I turned the pump sideways it went completely quiet, then when I turned it flat again the way it would mount on the GPU it came back to noisy.   So it occurred to me that a vertical mount would keep it silent on Normal speed as a second option.  Ever tried that? I suppose if you don't have it apart you'd have to lay the PC on it's side and listen.
 

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 04:09:43 (permalink)
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wedgoku
 
 
 There are users on the forums who have taken apart their RTX 2080ti hybrids & used a PWM pump splitter cable & connected that to their motherboards, they then lowered the RPM of the pump, which in returned lowered the overall noise significantly. 
 



Did you ever try that method yourself? I was just watching the how-to video here.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db8P3x-gD-s
 
   Something funny is that in my quest to control my Super temps I couldn't stand the noise the evga fans made on the Super Black, so installed the Kraken G12 with a silent wings 3 fan (tossed what came with it) / AIO setup.     What was weird was the H55 pump sounded similar to the noise at the start of the video link I pasted above, on normal speed.  Oddly enough switching it to full speed in the bios settings made it go perfectly quiet.     
 
The other option I had was when I was holding the pump in my hand before I attached it to the card, just had it plugged into the MB in bios, it was really noisy like in the video.  Just wanted to test it working and it's noise level, when I turned the pump sideways it went completely quiet, then when I turned it flat again the way it would mount on the GPU it came back to noisy.   So it occurred to me that a vertical mount would keep it silent on Normal speed as a second option.  Ever tried that? I suppose if you don't have it apart you'd have to lay the PC on it's side and listen.
 




I have not taken apart my "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR"  , I'm tempted to buy the PWM pump splitter cable & test it out for myself- I have heard some good results from users who have done the mod, I have been somewhat hesitant on taking apart my $1399USD "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR". OH BTW my card sounds just like what you posted in the video it is a high pitched whine/small refrigerator sound, I'm not sure why EVGA thinks that loud pump noise acceptable & at the same time give it a 100% quality check & send the product out the door!
post edited by wedgoku - 2020/09/07 04:17:22
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 04:46:17 (permalink)
 
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I have not taken apart my "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR"  , I'm tempted to buy the PWM pump splitter cable & test it out for myself- I have heard some good results from users who have done the mod, I have been somewhat hesitant on taking apart my $1399USD "EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-2384-KR". OH BTW my card sounds just like what you posted in the video it is a high pitched whine/small refrigerator sound, I'm not sure why EVGA thinks that loud pump noise acceptable & at the same time give it a 100% quality check & send the product out the door!




I only paid around 700 for my Super and taking it apart to put on the Kraken was constant panic attack stress for me lol, so I can't imagine what doing it to a 1400 dollar card would be like.

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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 04:57:24 (permalink)
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I think a few things are open to interpretation: Pump speed which is locked on those pumps - with consideration of the amount of overclocking that takes place on those specific Hybrid models - and the vicinity or placement of the computer in where the card and its pump is located to you. If your computer is very close to you, the louder it is, pretty sure we can all agree with that. You can have 10 silent Noctua fans in your system at 0DB but have a pump that is pushing coolant at that 100% speed (and from my experience ;P) you will have a bit of pump whine that will over take the rest of your silent computer. Mounting is absolutely a factor - however not the end all be all - but the video shared in this thread is mainly aimed at longevity. Having customers control the speed of the pump is a grey area where someone just happens to forget to adjust their pump speed under extreme load?! Card and coolant can get hotter and overheat causing damage to the die. This is not to say some cards wont have a bad pump - saying this is the reason to not obtain one is harsh. 


thanks for the reply. that's probably the first official reply I saw in years toward the hybrid's problems.
 
from what i have seen, ppl generally complain about the noise at idle. and yeah i use only noctua fans and let them running at ~800rpm at idle. 
just lower the pump speed at idle and use water temps to set the red line.
 
you guys has the icx tech, why don't you guys make use of that on hybrid model?
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 05:01:53 (permalink)
I'm sorry if this question has already been asked, but did the KPE have the same issues as the Hybrid?  They're both using AIO coolers, right?  
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Re: Stay far away from the RTX 30 series "Hybrid" model 2020/09/07 08:10:00 (permalink)
Nereus Check out this video from Gamers Nexus specifically on this issue (although they are talking about CPU cooling, but exact same principal): [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk[/


Thanks for sharing that - I didn’t know that. To his point, manufacturers instructions and websites are incorrect, and the card and AIO vendors don’t communicate very wrll how to properly install.

Though there is another issue, nearly all AIO and Hybrid coolers on the market do not give enough tubing to actually correctly mount it in anything other then a micro case. So it’s clear not much thought or intelligence is driving the AIO water cooling market.

It’s also not necessarily that people are installing them wrong, its really that people are installing them where the manufacturing defects and poor design have a high potential to cause issues. The fact they omit an air trap from the system is phenomenally ignorant of how any water cooling systems ashluld be designed. The first AIO designer must have started with one person with a good idea, but no understanding of how AIO’s should be made... so they built it wrong... then all the other lemmings followed the same poor design. No one atopped for a second and said - where’s the air trap? Then added the 3 cent item to the system.
post edited by kring - 2020/09/07 08:19:00
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