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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 15:32:52
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Fah performance is really dependent on the particular unit being processed. They can use a different mix of compute units be it fp32 or fp64. For gaming almost everything uses fp32 so they doubled the fp32 performance per core and used that to base their cuda core number. At least that's my speculation.
I'm particularly interested in that increased ray tracing for games (Cyberpunk 2077) and the impact of the improved tensor cores on folding and other scientific workloads.
I'm thinking a 12GB card in between 3080 and 3090 comes out sometime next year. But I'm in the position of already having a 2080ti. Most of the games I play don't do ray tracing or don't need the extra power to run 4k60 to 4k120.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 16:56:24
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ipkha Fah performance is really dependent on the particular unit being processed. They can use a different mix of compute units be it fp32 or fp64. F@H is almost entirely FP32 is what I've been told. I'm not aware of any cores having ever used FP64, though some people claim a few projects did for specific simulations.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/06 01:40:30
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ipkha If anything you can buy 2 3080 cards and the Nvlink bridge for the same price as a single 3090. More than double the price for 30% more performance at most is just ridiculous. So fir folding it's either 30% or 100% for the same price. Maybe AI stuff needs that extra RAM. No workload I have can possibly use 24GB of graphics memory. The only game I'm looking at with Ray Tracing is Cyberpunk and I doubt it'll need that much even 4k.
The 3080 will not be nvlink capable, only the 3090 models will. And the 3090 nvlink interface is different as well so now even a new style nvlink bridge will be required.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/06 15:50:35
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I was thinking of eventually having dual 3090s. Not connecting a 3090 to a 2080ti. Early technology details make me inclined towards the 3090 and using my evgabucks to soften the blow. But I'm really waiting on Anandtech.com to do the benchmarking or other source for Folding@Home details. Since I'm waiting on a watercooler card, there will be plenty of info available.
Game benchmarks will be important as well when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out and other games start to target some of the features of the 30 series cards.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/08 09:42:08
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I have pretty much decided on 3090FTX3. Working on getting everything I can to make my i9 7900X keep up with the card. But since my monitor is only 1440 I think I should be able to turn on all I candy and have fun and help my folding get better.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/08 11:52:21
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I'm leaning toward a pair or 3080 & water blocks
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/08 17:49:39
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I'm currently thinking a 3090 Hybrid or HydroCopper. Just gonna add it to the current Main system between the 2080tis. What's 1 more complication in a dual rad loop?
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/09 21:30:37
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It seems they are referencing the 3090 to a titan level card. Looking at Nvidia's history I believe a 3080ti will emerge eventually after a lot of people had already bought the 3080.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/10 05:35:41
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Yeah I think they are going to have to do something, the 10GB is the killer for me. I am still at 1440 on a Dell gaming monitor but when it shoots the **** I am going for at lest 4K with high refresh rate. So at this time it looks like 3090.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/10 08:51:28
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I haven't played a single game that needed more then 9GB of VRAM. And the biggest by far was the new Microsoft flight simulator. Most games end up around 6GB to 7GB at 4k. That 10GB should not really dissuade you for top end 4k gaming. It's a real stressfull waiting game. I'm assuming Nvidia has the benchmark release dates set at launch time for each card. So at least we'll have some good idea of performance within a few days. Whether Nvidia feels compelled to drop a 12/16GB card in between the 3080 and 3090 really depends on AMD. Since AMD has only teased their announcement I can't imagine they really plan to compete in the super high end. But putting 16Gb on their flagship might force a 3080/3080 Super/Ti with 16GB. Not that many people will actually switch brands. Hopefully I can control my clicker until a more reasonable card shows up.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/10 09:54:56
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Titans starting to give me issues. So upgrade to 3090 FTW3 time.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/12 21:22:09
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The review embargo for 3080 got pushed back until the day before 3080 launch. Generally not a great sign of confidence historically. I know they said there were reasons but still.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/13 16:58:38
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The 3090 won't be out for a while. Also, you can better fold with it, probably in a few months anyway, as they have to benchmark, and test it, to make WUs available for it; so it won't run underpowered. if you have the mobo and hardware, you can still run the 3090 on the main GPU slot, and run a 2080Ti on the secondary slot, at a reduced performance. The 2000 series are still a bit comparable, if ran in efficient mode (~1500-1700Mhz, 170-190W)
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/15 06:29:03
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ProDigit The 3090 won't be out for a while. Also, you can better fold with it, probably in a few months anyway, as they have to benchmark, and test it, to make WUs available for it; so it won't run underpowered. if you have the mobo and hardware, you can still run the 3090 on the main GPU slot, and run a 2080Ti on the secondary slot, at a reduced performance. The 2000 series are still a bit comparable, if ran in efficient mode (~1500-1700Mhz, 170-190W)
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/16 16:01:57
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Well, some benchmark data has come in. I'm still waiting on Anandtech.com for some more compute benchmarks but the 3080 is quite clearly 20% faster than the 2080ti. With some data showing greater in some instances. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for scientific workload testing and results. Definitely looking promising.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/16 20:51:53
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Looking hard at the 3080 FTW to replace the two 1070's I'm running in one of my systems. Should see a nice increase in Completed WU's with the 3080.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/17 08:42:25
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As expected, bots took all the initial inventory. Was refreshing every couple seconds on nvidia site. Went from notify me to out of stock between refreshes.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/17 09:23:49
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favrepeoria As expected, bots took all the initial inventory. Was refreshing every couple seconds on nvidia site. Went from notify me to out of stock between refreshes.
I dont expect anything less until at least X-Mas.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/17 10:39:04
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I'm waiting on a hydro version so not really expecting anything till November. No real rush this time around, trying early is just frustration inducing and bad for my health...
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/17 11:00:15
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favrepeoria As expected, bots took all the initial inventory. Was refreshing every couple seconds on nvidia site. Went from notify me to out of stock between refreshes.
Why would you blame Bots ? Hundreds to Thousands of customers, pounding F5 ...... EVGA site gets hammered .......... Demand was greater than supply Third party sellers can get their inventory from any retail channel ..... hey store manager .. I'll give you $100 over Retail for every GPU you get Some stores might even offer employees first crack at any inventory ... who knows
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/17 19:42:11
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Cool GTX
favrepeoria As expected, bots took all the initial inventory. Was refreshing every couple seconds on nvidia site. Went from notify me to out of stock between refreshes.
Why would you blame Bots ? Hundreds to Thousands of customers, pounding F5 ...... EVGA site gets hammered .......... Demand was greater than supply Third party sellers can get their inventory from any retail channel ..... hey store manager .. I'll give you $100 over Retail for every GPU you get Some stores might even offer employees first crack at any inventory ... who knows
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/18 21:30:33
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Cool GTX
favrepeoria As expected, bots took all the initial inventory. Was refreshing every couple seconds on nvidia site. Went from notify me to out of stock between refreshes.
Why would you blame Bots ? Hundreds to Thousands of customers, pounding F5 ...... EVGA site gets hammered .......... Demand was greater than supply Third party sellers can get their inventory from any retail channel ..... hey store manager .. I'll give you $100 over Retail for every GPU you get Some stores might even offer employees first crack at any inventory ... who knows
The API for the Nvidia store was "leaked" to a bot net. The same company that does this type of thing for shoes. They bragged that their customers walked away with upwards of 40 cards a piece. https://www.pcmag.com/news/how-a-bot-bought-dozens-of-rtx-3080-units-before-consumers-could-grab-them Humans can almost no longer buy high demand products online. Even reading the threads on reddit, maybe 1 in a 1000 got a card. Y
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/20 06:09:09
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Local Microcenter had them in stock for days (store pickup only). A 3080 or 3090 is very enticing for FAH and BOINC. For now I will hold off...hopefully there will be a 3080ti to fill the price gap. That is probably when I'll jump in.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/23 02:49:44
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when u can get one currently im doing two builds one for friend and we are waiting on intel 10 core and a 3080 for that one im looking at ice lake x or cascade x 18 core or more and 3090
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/23 17:54:24
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I'll be honest, the scores I've seen posted and the prices of the new cards have changed my mind and I will be getting some for folding. I will not be an f5 masher anytime soon but when things calm down I will snag up 1 (or 6+). After mulling over a few f5 complaint threads I am getting a good idea who was hording all the toilet paper a few months back.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/23 18:39:21
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STR1D3R_2 I'll be honest, the scores I've seen posted and the prices of the new cards have changed my mind and I will be getting some for folding. I will not be an f5 masher anytime soon but when things calm down I will snag up 1 (or 6+). After mulling over a few f5 complaint threads I am getting a good idea who was hording all the toilet paper a few months back.
I gave in since I was ready for another card to add to my system. Got a 2080 super FTW3 and then will step it up to a 3080 FTW3. Then I don’t have to be an F5 smasher but will have to wait several months.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/24 05:59:33
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Evga site goes down in 3, 2, 1. I'm just waiting for the hydro copper variant of the 3080 or 3090.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/24 07:06:10
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Well it is not looking like it is worth the 3090 so far. So know I think it is wait for a 20GB 3080 or see if NVIDIA is forced to do a 3080 TI sooner than later due to Big Navi. Butt of coarse they will never be in stock with.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/24 07:17:40
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Yep, I'm definitely waiting on a 3080 FTW HydroCopper. 3090 is just too little gain for the money. I too am hoping for a 20GB card or a the mythical 3080ti with 24GB. A 3080ti just doesn't seem likely given the slight gap between 3080 and 3090 unless they just call the 3080 with 20GB a ti card. If 3080 is the same chip as the 3090 I think its priced that way due to yields on the silicon. Especially as they dedicate full dies to their Quadro lineup.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/24 15:25:46
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I don’t think we will see Ti branding on the 3080 soon. They would have to give the 3090 an equal boost and Ti version. It isn’t unprecedented to do so cause the 1070ti was essentially a regular 1080. I do think we will see a 20GB 3080 and 16GB 3070 soon to do battle with AMD. I just think they will coexist with the lower memory version just like what AMD does. 20 GB 3080 coming in at around $900 for FE and16GB 3070 FE coming in around $600. That would help fill out the pricing structure more but not step on the toes of anything around it.
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