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Of course you know I am. Just who else is crazy enough?
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/29 07:54:52
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Going to wait to see who is offering what performance and when the Ti version is out. And even then, only if I can affort it ....
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/29 08:56:11
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Going to wait to see who is offering what performance and when the Ti version is out. And even then, only if I can affort it ....
Looks like 3090 is the TI
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/29 09:00:56
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But by not calling it Ti now they can bring out a Ti version in 6 months .... 😆
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/29 11:04:57
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Likely at some point but going to wait a bit first. Make sure the bugs get worked out just like early RTX 2000 series
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/29 15:11:16
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Would like to, depending on performance [and $$]. Doesn't mean I get to right away. :)
Should pump out some WU, with all the added Cuda cores. I think we are all curious how good that performance is, in the new series.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/29 19:33:02
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When cards became on par with a family vacation I began to think twice and can easily choose between the two. I'd prefer to give the fam 4 or more note worthy experiences per year as opposed to 1-2 and a couple screenshots of high ppd wu's. I'll admit, I do love to see the high ppd screen shots but I'd rather see pics of smiles more. I may upgrade to a 30xx but that will be a hand-me-down from the fs section or fleebay. <\/,,
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/30 09:35:01
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I mean, I'd LOVE to, but there'd have to be a fundraiser/donation for the card and matching waterblock.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/30 10:53:58
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Gotta see the price & performance first. The 5248 shader count makes it sound like one SM is disabled... so a fully enabled card could launch later as a Ti. But prices aren't made in a vacuum, if AMD's RDNA2 proves to be a solid contender NVIDIA will adjust prices lower accordingly. I'm rooting for AMD to finally deliver something good just for that reason alone... 
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/08/31 21:45:44
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Getting SOMETHING this generation, my 970 is creaking around the edges. Whether it's a 3090, or a 3080 will depend on the exact details. I'm hoping there is a 3080 20GB with an AIO on it. If there is that's probably what I'll jump on.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 09:56:12
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All reckless speculation after the event. I would think the RTX 3080 will be the new folding king. We don’t have big enough work units to properly utilize a 3090. Plus with the 3090 at double the cost of the 3080, I just don’t see it being the default best card for folding. Feels like it will be similar to comparing a 2080ti to rtx Titan folding wise.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 10:20:22
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Going into the event I was really looking at buying the 3090 but after watching the show and realizing I don't game at 8K and am still waiting for my dream 4K monitor I might just go with a 3080 as it really is good enough for 1440p gaming until the right 4K monitor comes along. As for folding it might not be a 3090 but a 3080 should pull in some good folding when not gaming.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 12:30:28
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Going into the event I was really looking at buying the 3090 but after watching the show and realizing I don't game at 8K and am still waiting for my dream 4K monitor I might just go with a 3080 as it really is good enough for 1440p gaming until the right 4K monitor comes along. As for folding it might not be a 3090 but a 3080 should pull in some good folding when not gaming.
Agreed. Especially if the Ampere cuda cores really do 2 instructions per clock. This sounds to me like they hyperthreaded the cuda cores :)
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 13:26:01
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I for sure will have one folding
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 14:46:47
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 16:05:54
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUGj3gCf3sg
Look at the core count in the video. This is nuts
The core counts are inflated. NVIDIA added a second FP32 ALU to each CUDA core (which is good for folding@home) NVIDIA is using the excuse to count each shader twice. For comparison purposes against Turing, the 3090 has 5248 (not 10,496). This may have some huge implications for compute & PPD though since F@H is primarily FP32 workloads.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 17:28:03
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3090 price premium is just too much for me.
Might update to 3080 but likely to skip this generation unless folding performance is off the charts. Could replace the dual 1080ti system with 1 card.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/01 21:15:58
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When a bstock 2080ti cost 2x what i get a month . Not a chance on any 3000 card . Comp. I fold with has 1 980ti . Comp I game on has 2 770 hydros . Bstock 1080ti mite come down to where I mite be able to upgrade a little or maybe a 2070 super . I do know there is no way I will most likely ever buy new cards in whats left of my life  Well I will be back folding when I turn the AC off and heater on .
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/02 04:06:44
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Dang! Just seen the launch and improvements over 2080ti. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/02 04:54:32
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If anything you can buy 2 3080 cards and the Nvlink bridge for the same price as a single 3090. More than double the price for 30% more performance at most is just ridiculous. So fir folding it's either 30% or 100% for the same price. Maybe AI stuff needs that extra RAM. No workload I have can possibly use 24GB of graphics memory. The only game I'm looking at with Ray Tracing is Cyberpunk and I doubt it'll need that much even 4k.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/02 08:45:07
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If anything you can buy 2 3080 cards and the Nvlink bridge for the same price as a single 3090. More than double the price for 30% more performance at most is just ridiculous. So fir folding it's either 30% or 100% for the same price. Maybe AI stuff needs that extra RAM. No workload I have can possibly use 24GB of graphics memory. The only game I'm looking at with Ray Tracing is Cyberpunk and I doubt it'll need that much even 4k.
No NVlink on 3080 card. Only 3090. But I am starting to think about just getting 2 3080's and move my 2080 TI to my old rig.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/02 09:04:32
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In that case I'll just wait for the inevitable 3080ti with NVlink and probably 12GB when AMD finally release their top Navi 2 cards.
I hope anyway. Definitely not feeling the 3090 fever as folding won't use nvlink unless something changes.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/03 05:00:24
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I'll be picking up a 3080,hopefully Hybrid version when they are released, to replace my 2060KO in the gaming/folding rig and putting my 2 2060KOs into a folding rig. I wish it came with 12GB but I foresee them releasing a 3080TI version with 16GB and then a 3080 Super with 12GB down the road sometime 
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/03 08:06:21
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I'll be picking up a 3080,hopefully Hybrid version when they are released, to replace my 2060KO in the gaming/folding rig and putting my 2 2060KOs into a folding rig. I wish it came with 12GB but I foresee them releasing a 3080TI version with 16GB and then a 3080 Super with 12GB down the road sometime
Looks at the price gap between 3080 and 3090. Something has to be in that price gap. Something like a 3080TI you mentioned. I think nvidia will stick with the super cards just being a mid cycle refresh tool at similar prices to standard(maybe plus $50).
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/03 10:04:29
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They are essentially holding their breath for AMDs new cards. If a console at 400 to 500 can do 4k60/8k30 then a built up GPU might give them a run. So they leave a giant price point hole for future gaming cards.
Since it will he early next year before solid availability comes, I'll wait out the competitive landscape.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 06:40:02
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Right now is about when I was going to be ready to add a second card into my folding rig Going to try to jump on the RTX 3080 Founders initially, but will wait obviously if I don’t get it. Maybe find a nice priced second hand 2080ti. My first one is folding nicely.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 06:48:00
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They are essentially holding their breath for AMDs new cards. If a console at 400 to 500 can do 4k60/8k30 then a built up GPU might give them a run. So they leave a giant price point hole for future gaming cards.
Since it will he early next year before solid availability comes, I'll wait out the competitive landscape.
Yeah I am now thinking to wait and see what AMD has. If it can compete prices may change or maybe even an emergency 3080TI comes out.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 07:13:53
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All reckless speculation after the event. I would think the RTX 3080 will be the new folding king. We don’t have big enough work units to properly utilize a 3090. Plus with the 3090 at double the cost of the 3080, I just don’t see it being the default best card for folding. Feels like it will be similar to comparing a 2080ti to rtx Titan folding wise.
From what I'm hearing the TI versions of this gen might just be expanded memory for better 4K/8K gaming performance. Doubt that they unlock more CUDA cores on the die. scott@bjorn3d
Yeah I am now thinking to wait and see what AMD has. If it can compete prices may change or maybe even an emergency 3080TI comes out.
This is probably the only way the Ti versions would tack on more shaders. What I'm interested in is the actual F@H performance for these. Can anyone do the guestimate math?
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 10:00:31
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Well that is what gets interesting, my 1080TI is a 1.5m ppd card, but my 2080TI is over 3.2-3.8m ppd card. But in gaming it is not as huge gain as it is in Folding.
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Re: So who is going to get a 3090 to Fold with?
2020/09/04 12:17:18
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What I'm interested in is the actual F@H performance for these. Can anyone do the guestimate math?
The problem is it's not a straight mathematical answer. By doubling the FP32 hardware there will be bottlenecks elsewhere in the architecture, so it will be impossible to get 2x the performance. Until NVIDIA proves otherwise I'm going to assume it's closer to something like hyperthreading, where there's a boost in many types of workloads, but it's never a doubling. 5m PPD seems like a good base level estimate, depending on how well the core can feed all the extra FP32 units it could easily go higher.
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