What exactly do you mean by locked down?

Wait, so a card with a custom pcb and extra power phases with locked voltage? What even is the point then? Just the extra fan?

Any clue as to whether FTW cards (which seem to have custom pcb) will also be locked down?

xblackvalorx
What exactly do you mean by locked down?

GPU Boost 4.0 choking the card, power target restriction, temp target restriction, only 3 ticks higher voltage adjustment & aren't allowed to flash a custom vbios to it.
 

the_Scarlet_one
You can’t change the voltage at all.. locked down.

Sajin, I was going to message you. I have the answer now and I think you made a smart decision to hold off a little longer.

Where did you see you can't change the voltage at all?
 

Akriant
Any clue as to whether FTW cards (which seem to have custom pcb) will also be locked down?

I canceled a FTW3. 

Jldowning85
Do you have to contact support to cancel your preorder?

Yes.

the_Scarlet_one

sajin
Where did you see you can't change the voltage at all?

Steve from GN did the Tom Peterson interview and asked if it was a placebo slider. Tom said no, it wasn’t a placebo slider, and Steve has been testing to see if it made any changes, and it doesn’t.

Nvidia locked the voltage on these cards just like the Pascal. Only a select few cards may be able to get a bios loaded that is unlocked.

The slider doesn't actually adjust voltage. It only unlocks higher voltage ranges. To use the higher voltage ranges you must tweak the voltage/frequency curve as shown in my guide here.

bcavnaugh
@Sajin So in other words you are saying that None of the EVGA RTX Graphics Cards can really be overclocked due to this Lock.
And that All of the EVGA RTX Graphics Cards are "locked down"
Maybe Time to Cannel my HC Water Blocks then.

No, they can still be overclocked, but they will be choked by boost 4.0.

I sent in a request to cancel as well... My 1080ti kingpin will do for now... 40~ fps at 4k isn't so bad with g-synch.... lol

So, Voltage locked down, 2080 only marginally faster than 1080 Ti at same price point as 1080 Ti even though it has faster clock speed and faster memory than 1080 Ti (granted it has less shaders than 1080 Ti), Nvidia says over volting GPU will shorten its' life big time (probably why they locked down voltage), cannot flash BIOS to get around these limitations, reports of them running hotter than last generation, more difficult to over clock because of Boost 4.0, 2080 Ti double the price than last gen 1080 Ti, no games at launch that support the new tech Nvidia has been touting as the biggest upside of the RTX, meh reviews and Nvidia stock dropped 2.6% today because of the reviews.
 
Way to go Nvidia. You sure know how to introduce new technology to the consumer market :)
 
Nvidia kinda seems like they are following Microsoft's lead on how to force their vision and products onto the consumer market this time around............
 
WOW, just WOW. That's all I can say.
 
AMD, you have the door left wide open for you to catch up to and even surpass Nvidia, take advantage...........

jonkrmr
So, Voltage locked down, 2080 only marginally faster than 1080 Ti at same price point as 1080 Ti even though it has faster clock speed and faster memory than 1080 Ti (granted it has less shaders than 1080 Ti), Nvidia says over volting GPU will shorten its' life big time (probably why they locked down voltage), cannot flash BIOS to get around these limitations, reports of them running hotter than last generation, more difficult to over clock because of Boost 4.0, 2080 Ti double the price than last gen 1080 Ti, no games at launch that support the new tech Nvidia has been touting as the biggest upside of the RTX, meh reviews and Nvidia stock dropped 2.6% today because of the reviews.
 
Way to go Nvidia. You sure know how to introduce new technology to the consumer market :)
 
Nvidia kinda seems like they are following Microsoft's lead on how to force their vision and products onto the consumer market this time around............
 
WOW, just WOW. That's all I can say.
 
AMD, you have the door left wide open for you to catch up to and even surpass Nvidia, take advantage...........

What I don't get is why they'd care with AIBs, it's there warranty issue
Seems more like a push to keep AIBs from having a huge advantage over nvidia made cards

This is not going to go well for Nvidia or the AIB's at all. Wow,

I found this humorous.
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/nvidia-falls-after-morgan-stanley-calls-new-gaming-card-disappointing.html
 
 

Sajin

bcavnaugh
@Sajin So in other words you are saying that None of the EVGA RTX Graphics Cards can really be overclocked due to this Lock.
And that All of the EVGA RTX Graphics Cards are "locked down"
Maybe Time to Cannel my HC Water Blocks then.

No, they can still be overclocked, but they will be choked by boost 4.0.

I do not use Boost so can I still Move the Voltage Slider to 100% and OC the Card just like what we do now on the GTX Cards?

bcavnaugh
I do not use Boost so can I still Move the Voltage Slider to 100% and OC the Card just like what we do now on the GTX Cards?

Gpu Boost 4.0 is on every nvidia card and doesn’t give the option to turn it off. You can still overclock just like normal, but don’t expect extra high numbers, just go in expecting the 2050 mhz range just like last gen.

Sajin
I canceled.
 
Why did I decide to cancel? Couldn't get over the fact that I would be going back to a locked down card. 
 
Guess I'll be waiting for the 2080 Ti Kingpin. 

Good call.
20xx launch was a failure... overpriced.