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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/15 11:01:20
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Hi, I am getting the 4 beeps when booting up. CSM is disabled, and the system runs fine once it is booted. Any things I should try, or do I just ignore this? Thanks!
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/15 12:49:25
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I think the beeps are normal. I get a bunch of beeps and I think some are things plugged into USB ports, a couple beeps because I don't have anything plugged into a CPU fan header.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/15 14:38:15
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can you guys with faster RAM than me please post your memory latency benchmark scores in ns(nano seconds) for me. i use aida64 to test that. i get a measly 60ns lol. Would like to know if it's worth while "downgrading" my two 32GB sticks to four 16GB stick with faster timing and speeds.
I've only done about a half hour to an hour of various stability testing (including some cinebench r23, BF5, memtest64, and about 20 minutes of the aida-64 system stability test...which is probably the only one that counts lol), but so far, these settings seem stabile (the 5.4GHz all-core not so much, and same for tightening timings down to 15-15-36).
I ran the OC-robot in bios, which picks 5.4GHz all-core. Then in the Intel XTU, I set the package ratio/voltage tuning mode and set: 1-3 cores 5.4GHz, 4-8 cores 5.3GHz. I turned on TBV, but I don't think it had an effect. While I'm certain I looked for those in the BIOS the other night and couldn't find them, they're right in the CPU information tab in the advanced section...so idk lol but I have them on in BIOS. My memory is set at 16-16-16-36, 3733MHz, gear 1:
I just ran it again with this Chrome tab open and it now shows:
For reference, even though it wasn't stable, running at 15-15-15-36 with the OC-robot 5.4GHz all-core setting gave this:
So it seems that the 3733MHz, gear 1, with 16-16-36 or better will get you to <50ns. going to 15-15-36 didn't buy me much, but I wonder if that's because it wasn't stable (crashed when running aida-64 memory stability test). I was aiming for <50ns, so I'm pretty happy with this. The only thing I'm not sure about is if I can get the BIOS settings to match this XTU setting so I don't have to apply it manually.
very nice! seems that your timings are really good with 3733 in gear 1. Samsung B-die ftw!\ I wonder if these B-Die - CL14 sticks would clock to 3733 in gear 1: https://www.gskill.com/product/165/299/1604306045/F4-3600C14Q-64GTRSTrident-Z-RoyalDDR4-3600MHz-CL14-15-15-35-1.45V64GB-(4x16GB) https://www.gskill.com/product/165/166/1604305845/F4-3600C14Q-64GTZRTrident-Z-RGBDDR4-3600MHz-CL14-15-15-35-1.45V64GB-(4x16GB) https://www.gskill.com/product/165/166/1604306180/F4-3600C14Q-64GTZNTrident-Z-NeoDDR4-3600MHz-CL14-15-15-35-1.45V64GB-(4x16GB) https://www.gskill.com/product/165/166/1604305491/F4-3600C14Q-64GVKRipjaws-VDDR4-3600MHz-CL14-15-15-35-1.45V64GB-(4x16GB) someone buy one of these kits and tell me.. lol.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/15 17:09:30
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One thing I noticed is that at 1.4V set, it showed 1.423V on the memory. If I set 1.423, it booted, but if I set 1.425, it didn't. It then wouldn't boot until I set it back to 1.4V. So my memory was pretty finicky if I went beyond these settings. I'm not sure what would happen if I went farther, like 1.45, or 1.5 V to try and find another stable area, but I don't have a lot of experience in overclocking memory, so I'd have to read up on it to be comfortable trying that. For now, this seems quite stable and meets what I was looking for, so I am probably just going to stay here.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/15 17:28:20
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when I try to set gear 1 @ 3733 my machine locks up. maybe i need to set one thing at a time a reboot. (or maybe this is where the problem with 4 sticks sets in)
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/15 19:45:53
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when I try to set gear 1 @ 3733 my machine locks up. maybe i need to set one thing at a time a reboot. (or maybe this is where the problem with 4 sticks sets in)
Check your cpu "target speed" after you set 3733 on memory. I had one issue where I was trying to set the memory manually and it adjusted the bclk to 103 or something, which had the cpu trying to run at ~5.7GHz (if I remember correctly). It didn't boot. I had to set the xmp profile (which set it at 4000MHz, auto gear, which would have been gear 2 at that speed), then I changed the speed down to 3733 and gear 1. I booted there and it seemed fine, though I didn't really do any stability checks. I rebooted and set it at 16-16-36, which I think yours is already at. Mine is 16-19-39 stock. I don't know if the order of what I did was important, or getting to the xmp settings first.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/17 02:07:26
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Any idea when we could see a second drop?
Possibly Tuesday. That seems to be a semi-regular thing with drops, enough that folks have started referring to 'Tuesday' as 'Queuesday'.
They're typically very closed mouth about drops in general, because they don't want to be locked into an estimate, and create a lot of angst and disappointment should something delay the drop or there not be as many skus available as they thought.
I live in Korea, so I have to wait a little longer :)
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/17 06:59:29
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/17 10:45:46
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i cant see to get gear 1 at all. even with everything at default my machine just freezes up right in the BIOS.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/17 11:04:16
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i cant see to get gear 1 at all. even with everything at default my machine just freezes up right in the BIOS.
That is weird. You might want to actually contact support for that one. Did you try 3200MHz gear 1 just to make sure that the "officially supported" speed works? Also, does anybody know what BIOS comes on the USB drive? I didn't update it, so I think I'm on 1.04...just curious if that's also what's on the drive as they haven't posted a new one to the website yet. Edit: I revisited this: rblaes_99
new mods rig is up with initial 3dmark score. time to tune.
OC robot failed on me when it hit 5.4ghz @80% and locked up.
Mine doesn't actually fail. It finishes the OC test and suggests 5.4GHz all-core as my optimal overclock. I end up with stability issues at this speed when I run stability tests in windows (aida-64 system stability test to be specific). I didn't catch that your BIOS locks up. with it also freezing up trying to just set memory speeds, that sounds like something is wrong to me. I would definitely reach out to see if they can help you.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/17 11:12:53
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Could you guys tested how is the ram oc capabilities? I am planning on using 10900kf with 4000cl16 2x16 ram with z590 dark, my ultimate purpose is to make it work at command rate 1. As you know z490 couldnt handle it at cr1. For now i am not planning on using 11th gen cpu, so what i really wonder is, as z490 dark cannot make it wotk at cr1, hows z590. Dark is not out yet, thats fine, but could you guys tested at ftw?
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/17 14:33:41
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3200mhz gear 1 boots just fine.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 00:24:48
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For anyone wondering, the next drop is expected to be the first week of June, though they're trying to get them sooner.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 08:13:39
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For anyone wondering, the next drop is expected to be the first week of June, though they're trying to get them sooner.
Now that is disheartening. I sometimes struggle to really see what the semiconductor shortage is actually doing. Easier to blame other reasons.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 09:01:09
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For anyone wondering, the next drop is expected to be the first week of June, though they're trying to get them sooner.
Based off what?
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 09:03:28
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Twitter conversation with Jacob.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 09:39:01
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Oh no!
At this rate I'll be lucky to get notified in July.
I didn't get in the que until
4/30/2021 3:55:06 PM PT
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 09:42:50
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Latest update from Jacob on today's stream is that the Z590 Dark is still a few weeks away at least.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 09:53:33
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RogueMaster
For anyone wondering, the next drop is expected to be the first week of June, though they're trying to get them sooner.
It's very disappointing to not be able to buy it within this month. But I already decided to wait I'll wait another 15 more days
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 10:22:36
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Well that's rough. Hopefully the second batch at least has more boards so that we can clear this list off.
The Current List for those of us on the forums that have reported here:
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driam 10:00:07 AM - YES
YakuzaShoei 10:00:08 AM - YES
Nereus 10:00:10 AM - YES
kwasiland 10:00:14 AM - YES
AlreadyTaken14Times 10:00:18 AM - YES
tuanmassey 10:00:18 AM - YES
skyline090 ? - YES
mizzer 10:00:20 AM - YES
jefspet 10:00:22 AM - YES
rblaes_99 10:00:23 AM - YES
oldmanian 10:00:25 AM - YES
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mobb-1 10:00:30 AM
haksil choi 10:00:31 AM
g33km4n 10:00:32 AM
kalsim 10:00:36 AM
ncall87 10:00:45 AM
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H20Cooled 10:00:47 AM
Leonastas 10:00:49 AM
Nelson2011 10:00:52 AM
nomoss 10:00:53 AM
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RogueMaster 10:01:48 AM
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Felmaggots 10:07:58 AM
snebes 10:13:11 AM
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jediwashuu 5:12:37 AM
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 10:51:53
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it would be nice to hear how the others that have them in hand are doing with the builds. the gear 1/2 thing is giving me fits. I can run fine at xmp profile gear 2 @ 4000mhz, or gear 1 @ 3200. that's about it.
OC robot doesn't work for me. hard system lock when it hits 5.4ghz.
everything else is rock solid though. very happy and can limp along while the bios updates slowly roll out.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 12:30:27
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it would be nice to hear how the others that have them in hand are doing with the builds. the gear 1/2 thing is giving me fits. I can run fine at xmp profile gear 2 @ 4000mhz, or gear 1 @ 3200. that's about it.
OC robot doesn't work for me. hard system lock when it hits 5.4ghz.
everything else is rock solid though. very happy and can limp along while the bios updates slowly roll out.
Just curious, what are your temperatures and voltages when you get into the 5.3-5.4GHz range? Also, try running the xmp profile (gear 2 4000MHz) with aida-64 memory benchmark. You can download it and run it on a trial basis (that's what I did). If your latency numbers aren't horrendous, I'd just keep it there. Realistically, I don't think it'll be too bad at that. The other thing you could try, seeing as it's b-die and all, is seeing if there's a safe voltage to get them up to 4800MHz. I hear that speed at gear 2 is just as low latency (or close enough to not matter at all) to the higher gear 1 specs. I think you're only at 1.4V on the memory. I've seen the same G.Skill kits running faster at 1.5V. I'm curious if they just cranked up the voltage and changed the SKU lol. I'd have to do some digging to find out what others have said b-die is safe for long term to be comfortable with that, but they offer so many kits at 1.5V that I'd be surprised if it was that terrible. Also, there are some new memory-specific voltage controller voltages you now have access to that you can increase a bit for added memory stability with these chips. The last page of that Igor's lab post you shared talked about those other voltages you can tune and what worked for them. Could be something else to consider. I am still planning on doing some tests with 3733MHz gear 1 vs 4000MHz gear 2. I don't think they'll be substantially different, but we'll see.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 16:18:08
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when i set xmp profile 1 it set voltage to 1.4 but It looks like the actual voltage is 1.43. not sure how that snuck itself a tad higher. temps seem fine. i will DL AIDA64. I used to use that a long time ago because it sent sensor readings to the LCD on my G19 keyboard! those were the days.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/18 21:04:35
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when i set xmp profile 1 it set voltage to 1.4 but It looks like the actual voltage is 1.43. not sure how that snuck itself a tad higher. temps seem fine. i will DL AIDA64. I used to use that a long time ago because it sent sensor readings to the LCD on my G19 keyboard! those were the days.
I miss my old G19. Still have the G13 on my desk, but I use a Stream Deck with HWInfo64 to keep an eye on sensors now. Thinking about getting the bigger version of the deck at some point though (I have the 15 key now). In addition to being rather handy for macro keys in games, it would give me more space to keep an eye on sensors. It's somewhat pricey as a sensor tracker, but since it has other uses, it balances out for me. 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/19 06:27:51
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/19 07:26:00
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my system failed the aida stability test after about 10 minutes with XMP profile on and everything else stock. rerunning now with the memory at defaults and so far so good. As I expected, will need to patiently wait for BIOS updates to roll out on this mobo to address these few issues.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/19 08:34:52
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my system failed the aida stability test after about 10 minutes with XMP profile on and everything else stock. rerunning now with the memory at defaults and so far so good. As I expected, will need to patiently wait for BIOS updates to roll out on this mobo to address these few issues.
Interesting. I'm still on Z490 i7-10700k, but I ran the AIDA64 stability test just on the ram only (4000MHz, XMP profile, CPU at stock).. at 9 minutes 59 seconds I got a bunch of popup boxes saying something about unable to create enough threads. I believe the test was still running, but the AIDA64 display monitoring had stopped working - I had to shut down AIDA64 and start it again and everything was fine. Just interesting that it was bang on 10 minutes, similar to your result. I was looking at the time clock on the stability test right when it happened.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/19 08:38:42
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I'll try it once more, if it happens again bang on 10 minutes, then yeah, it sounds like it might be an issue with the test, not our memory settings.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards
2021/05/19 08:58:09
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I'll try it once more, if it happens again bang on 10 minutes, then yeah, it sounds like it might be an issue with the test, not our memory settings.
Fair enough. I think I only ran that one for about 5 minutes. I did the aida system stability test for about 20 minutes or so...then the Intel XTU one for system and memory for 20 minutes or so...Also, I ran Memtest64 (because you can run it from Windows) for a while and didn't have any errors. The one big crash I had was when I tried to turn my timings down to 15-15-15-36 at 3733MHz, 1.4V. The Aida-64 memory test crashed the system after about 30 seconds or so. I don't have a lot of experience with this software, but found it helpful for testing latency and figured I may as well try the stability test out. One thing I did change under the preferences was to turn off AVX loads. I could tell from the temperatures that I was getting that the Intel XTU test doesn't run them and I'm not sure of any software or games I actually use that run them, so I just figured a good first step was to test without them on. My clocks usually also stay maxed out for the most part with AVX loads off because the temps hover around the 68-70°C area. I get to around 80°C when testing with AVX loads on.
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