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2021/01/11 13:30:09 (permalink)

 
EVGA Z590 motherboards paired with 11th Gen Intel® Core™ processors bring unprecedented speed and bandwidth to the latest graphics cards and M.2 NVMe SSDs, along with improved performance across the board. Built with the Intel® Z590 Chipset, these motherboards are PCIe Gen4 ready with a data transfer rate up to 16 GT/s, doubling the previous generation. As befitting this milestone, EVGA designed and engineered these new motherboards from scratch, resulting in a pair of sleek-looking motherboards jam-packed with the latest features. Introducing the EVGA Z590 DARK and Z590 FTW WIFI motherboards – the first of a new generation of EVGA motherboard excellence.
 
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 13:41:07 (permalink)
    The Z590 dark FINALLY has 4 slot spacing to match that of HEDT motherboards, meaning the second PCIx16 slot is accessible while using an air cooled 30 series GPU!

    I am sad to see the RGB on it, since the dark was specifically supposed to omit things that were flashy in favor of performance. I guess it doesn’t take away from performance, but it shows a shift in the stance of the dark lineup that that I don’t think I like the idea of seeing happen.



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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 13:50:34 (permalink)
    Looks great! 
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    I am sad to see the RGB on it, since the dark was specifically supposed to omit things that were flashy in favor of performance. I guess it doesn’t take away from performance, but it shows a shift in the stance of the dark lineup that that I don’t think I like the idea of seeing happen.



    I am in favor of it as the bios has a 'dark mode' toggle to disable all the blinky lights - so it's a high performance motherboard which carries appear regardless of your taste for RGB
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 14:01:20 (permalink)
    So can EVGA finally comment on whether their Z490 boards will be getting a BIOS update to support PCIE 4.0 with the new CPUs. 
     
    That DARK looks sick. 

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 14:02:23 (permalink)
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    So can EVGA finally comment on whether their Z490 boards will be getting a BIOS update to support PCIE 4.0 with the new CPUs. 




    I *could* be wrong but I don't think this is possible as I don't think the physical interfaces on the motherboard are PCIE 4.0
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 14:53:18 (permalink)
    Liking the look of the Z590 Dark.  Will be a tough decision to leave my Z490 KPE board, but so far not sure if there's enough gains to move to the Z590 platform besides PCIe 4.  Z490 should still support the newest Intel CPUs.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 15:10:21 (permalink)
    Like the effort they have put into aesthetics on both of these boards, tasteful and restrained!!! Nice job guys.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 15:15:05 (permalink)
    Dark looks nicer heatsink wise though I still see that extremely cheap IO cover which I removed from mine since it makes it look like a $75 board instead of a $400 one.  Nice to see M.2 cooling was added too since evga was the only brand without it.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 15:41:44 (permalink)
    Whoa why the Flagship Dark only has 2 dimms slot?
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 15:43:10 (permalink)
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    Whoa why the Flagship Dark only has 2 dimms slot?

    Been that way since the Z390 Dark.  Better for overclocking.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 15:48:58 (permalink)
    rock2k
    Whoa why the Flagship Dark only has 2 dimms slot?



    Buildzoid's video about the z390 dark has a good primer on this, but the short answer is that you'll be able to tolerate more aggressive timings/higher memory speeds.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 16:14:33 (permalink)
    rock2k
    Whoa why the Flagship Dark only has 2 dimms slot?


    Less stress on the CPU Integrated Memory Controller, so it increases overclocking capabilities. 4 dimms adds more stress to the IMC, and can cause instability during extreme overclocking, and the extra traces also add noise, so there are only two dimms and the traces are kept as short as possible.



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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 16:18:56 (permalink)
    I love the look of the Dark....but I'm sticking with AMD for a couple years at this point...
     
     

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 16:32:21 (permalink)
    Serious question: why do these exist? 14nm, old chipset, etc. Why didn’t EVGA make an X570 board at this point? I don’t see a valid reason to buy anything Intel based for at least a few years.

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 17:06:38 (permalink)
    I bought my Z490 on 11/19/2020 and would like to step up...  Does anyone know if I can make it? I see under my products that it says:
    This product is not available for Step-Up. Please read the terms and conditions of our Step-Up program.
     
    Also would it support an i9-10850K?
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 17:10:12 (permalink)
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    I bought my Z490 on 11/19/2020 and would like to step up...  Does anyone know if I can make it? I see under my products that it says:
    This product is not available for Step-Up. Please read the terms and conditions of our Step-Up program.


    I think it's 90 days.  There only appears to be renders of the board with no actual release date.  So it's probably a month or so still, if not more.  If you were eligible (which it looks like not),  I don't think you'd make the window having bought your board back in November.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 17:11:27 (permalink)
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    Also would it support an i9-10850K?

    Z590 is backward compatible with 10 series 1200 CPUs
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 17:13:35 (permalink)
    Sneak Mountain Summit!
     
    I just saw that when I peeked in.
     

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 17:14:31 (permalink)
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    Also would it support an i9-10850K?

    Z590 is backward compatible with 10 series 1200 CPUs


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    I bought my Z490 on 11/19/2020 and would like to step up...  Does anyone know if I can make it? I see under my products that it says:
    This product is not available for Step-Up. Please read the terms and conditions of our Step-Up program.


    I think it's 90 days.  There only appears to be renders of the board with no actual release date.  So it's probably a month or so still, if not more.  If you were eligible (which it looks like not),  I don't think you'd make the window having bought your board back in November.


    Unfortunate... I'm tired of dealing with the issues with my board (Wifi and memory issues) and now I have to take pictures of the socket and send it back to EVGA for a replacement which probably is a refurb... 
     
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 18:00:51 (permalink)
    Watching Buildzoid discussing the new board on his livestream. 12 phase vcore on the FTW board? Hmmm.......

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 18:04:11 (permalink)
    Meanwhile ASUS Dark Hero has 16 phase 90 amp VRM.... again, I don’t understand the point of these boards. Intel sucks, who would buy a 6 year old 14nm chip?

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 18:51:06 (permalink)
    RGB and Dark do not go together. Also the board is downright ugly. DARK meant no RGB to start with and it’s crept in like a snake. Marketing wins again!!! Intels announced i9-11900 CPU also looks to be another FAIL by team blue. We’ll see if they can get it together in the next few months but the rumors of Rocket Lake continue to fizzle like intel stock on AMD launch day. Looks like I’ll be buying my second ever AMD kit. The first was in the late 90’s and I got burned hopefully AMD is going to continue to be competitive but honestly their inability to make boards that support more than 1 Gen of cpu much like intel changing sockets like pants is starting to feel like more marketing control and less customer care.
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 19:01:39 (permalink)
    I like the new Dark. I like the z490 Dark a little better. 11th gen doesn't excite me. If I had money to blow on latest gen then I'd probably spring for it, but knowing it the platform was already dead was the reason I didn't get 10th gen. Holding out for 12th gen or maybe even make a switch back to AMD. Its been years though. This z390 will just have to keep chugging along.

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 19:55:15 (permalink)
    They look sick. Too bad it is very likely it will be out of stock, just as 99% on the page. It is now like some kind of fictional products. 
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 20:40:04 (permalink)
    These new motherboards are no fun at all. 
    Everything still 16 lames (I mean lanes) and hardly any slots for connectivity 
    What kind of enthusiast uses Wi-Fi Really? 
    We are building overly priced gaming consoles at this point. 
     
    I have not seen anything affordable and worth buying in 5 years. 
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 21:36:35 (permalink)
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    These new motherboards are no fun at all. 
    Everything still 16 lames (I mean lanes) and hardly any slots for connectivity 
    What kind of enthusiast uses Wi-Fi Really? 
    We are building overly priced gaming consoles at this point. 
     
    I have not seen anything affordable and worth buying in 5 years. 
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 22:27:42 (permalink)
    Looks like only two RAM slots on the Dark? Is that normal?

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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 22:28:49 (permalink)
    Rocket lake was confirmed to be 20 PCIe lanes. So that's x4 lanes for these boards to utilize. Doubled-edged sword though, because it means even though Rocket Lake works in Z490 boards they won't get those extra x4 PCIe lanes. And to be clear, Intel already officially confirmed Alder Lake is launching at the end of this year. Z690 or whatever they call it will require DDR5 and won't be compatible with Rocket lake or older CPUs. 


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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 22:41:48 (permalink)
    So does this mean the Z490 Dark is not PCI 4.0 capable?
     
    Or have they made any kind of official announcment regarding Rocket Lake compatibility? 
     
    Thanks in advance for any info guys, been so busy at work lately, hard to keep up with all the nomenclature, chipsets, and features. 
     
    No wonder I got such a good price on the KPE. If it's not 4.0 compatible I can live with that, most of the data I've seen says it's not a significant bottleneck unless you are running a bunch of NVME and multiple graphics cards. 
     
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    Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/01/11 22:54:43 (permalink)
    Sticking with the unsightly yellow capacitors I see....


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