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Nvidia has released their recommended GPUs list for Red Dead Redemption 2, stating that their Geforce RTX 2080 Ti will be unable to play Red Dead Redemption 2 at 4K 60FPS at High Settings, instead requiring a mixture of medium and high settings. Red Dead Redemption 2 will also feature Ultra settings, which means that 4K 60FPS at max settings is far beyond the capabilities of today's graphics hardware. 

Our guess is that Red Dead Redemption 2's Medium settings will offer graphics that are similar to Red Dead Redemption 2's console versions. This means that Red Dead Redemption 2 will look great, even at these lower graphical settings. While some will use this factor to call the game "unoptimised", we'd prefer to think that Red Dead Redemption has been built with future GPU generations in mind. 
 
To challenge an RTX 2080ti means the graphics must be extremely tough. 

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 03:42:44 (permalink)
    I am glad that they did this since GTA V still has a huge player base. Rockstar needs to expect that would happen also for Red Dead. I also think a lot of this points to a PlayStation 5 and Project Scarlett re-release as normally we don't see a console port come to the PC that would crush the top of the line graphics cards.

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 05:52:15 (permalink)
    We need games devs that make systems cto keep pushing tech forward. It doesn’t seem like crytek is up to that challenge anymore so someone had to pick up the mantle. 

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 08:41:18 (permalink)
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 12:06:09 (permalink)
    Red Dead 2 doesn't even work for a lot of people... No surprise really, this is the Take Two way!
     
    I bought the game on Epic, just to try and keep my games consolidated into a few different launcher/stores (Epic, Steam, Origin, Uplay... **** the list is growing). Of course, the game does install and launch the terrible RS Social Club. When you click on launch in the Epic store, it brings up the Social Club for a second and then it crashes... HAHA, so typical of AAA games nowadays, they hardly ever work out of the box. The video game industry is in such a sad state right now.
     
    The moral of the story? The game brought my PC to its knees...
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 13:04:37 (permalink)
    Chris: Try just using Rockstar's launcher to play the game. I bought RDR2 on Rockstar's launcher to minimize the amount of launchers it went through to play this highly intensive game. I'll be playing on lower than minimum spec later today and it'll probably run fine as do other new games (at 1440p).
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 14:02:36 (permalink)
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    Chris: Try just using Rockstar's launcher to play the game. I bought RDR2 on Rockstar's launcher to minimize the amount of launchers it went through to play this highly intensive game. I'll be playing on lower than minimum spec later today and it'll probably run fine as do other new games (at 1440p).

    Yeah, I probably should have just bought it from Rockstar too. I did get the game to run, but to do so, there are now 3 launchers required as I like to add all my games to the new Steam library... This is just getting ridicules. I did buy The Outer Worlds (FANTASTIC game BTW) on the Epic store and am able to run it from the exe without even firing up Epic... Kind of was hoping that it would work here too, this is NOT the case with this game. I knew it there was a strong probability this would be the case though, so I am not upset by it. I just wanted it to actually start.
     
    In the end, somehow it started working and plays now. BTW, to get rid of the mouse cursor, you have to disable fullscreen optimizations.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/05 22:52:54 (permalink)
    Well this game is a sight to behold. I picked it up today and put my rig through it's paces and I'm getting about 75-90fps in game with max settings at 3840x1080 on my ultrawide 32.9 monitor. The in game benchmark reports an average of 72fps with my rig. I'm running in Vulkan with everything except motion blur cranked to ultra. 

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 05:03:43 (permalink)
    Although I agree we need Devs to push graphics boundaries,... I am not totally sure this is the case in this game ?
     
    While it does look great - I think it may be more an issue of poor, unoptimized -portitis. 
    As has been the case on Rockstar games many times.

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 06:13:48 (permalink)
    They Need to go back & tweak the Code if a 2080Ti can't run it .... something is Wrong in the code optimization

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 06:22:22 (permalink)
    I feel like I might be getting this game to play on my new 85" 4K TV. 

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 06:30:07 (permalink)
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    I feel like I might be getting this game to play on my new 85" 4K TV. 


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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 08:44:40 (permalink)
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    I feel like I might be getting this game to play on my new 85" 4K TV. 

    I've been playing this game with my Xbox One X on my 65" 4K OLED TV and it looks gorgeous 


     
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 12:37:24 (permalink)
    Apparently, they updated something and the game won't start again. RS and 2K are absolute garbage companies.
     
    When it was working there was a cursor on the screen. I pretty close to just not playing video games anymore. The industry is such a scam anymore. It's hard to keep playing games when developers and publishers keep releasing broken games. Games that you pay 60 bucks for that do not work. I can find much better things to throw my money at now.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 13:09:04 (permalink)
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    Apparently, they updated something and the game won't start again. RS and 2K are absolute garbage companies.
     
    When it was working there was a cursor on the screen. I pretty close to just not playing video games anymore. The industry is such a scam anymore. It's hard to keep playing games when developers and publishers keep releasing broken games. Games that you pay 60 bucks for that do not work. I can find much better things to throw my money at now.




    I know what you mean... It's been a bit frustrating recently. I just got Call of Duty bundled with my RTX 2060 Super, but really... if I had spent the $60 on the game, I would have been a little more annoyed. The game seems to work pretty decent once you are in it, but the main menu and loadout edit screens feel like a bit of a slide show and occasionally it makes me preload my shaders and that takes forever. It just feels like they could do a lot better.

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 19:22:11 (permalink)
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    We need games devs that make systems cto keep pushing tech forward. It doesn’t seem like crytek is up to that challenge anymore so someone had to pick up the mantle. 

    I would argue that dev house corporate culture needs a paradigm shift. Everything is bolt-on spaghetti-ware anymore. It's not that games are getting more detailed, it's that they're getting exponentially less optimized. And companies are pushing for that, so you buy new hardware to compensate for all the ugliness in the backend of game engines now. People love to blame Steam for the prevalence of crap out there. Steam is the result of that, not the source of it. It all starts at the developer. Everything is early access and a proof of concept lab experiment that people are now accustomed to believe is the status quo for gaming.

    When is the last time Nvidia focused on promoting titles that were actually fun to play vs eye candy? Who truly cares how the light hits particular models in a game, if the whole premise of the game is crap?
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 19:54:12 (permalink)
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    We need games devs that make systems cto keep pushing tech forward. It doesn’t seem like crytek is up to that challenge anymore so someone had to pick up the mantle. 

    I would argue that dev house corporate culture needs a paradigm shift. Everything is bolt-on spaghetti-ware anymore. It's not that games are getting more detailed, it's that they're getting exponentially less optimized. And companies are pushing for that, so you buy new hardware to compensate for all the ugliness in the backend of game engines now. People love to blame Steam for the prevalence of crap out there. Steam is the result of that, not the source of it. It all starts at the developer. Everything is early access and a proof of concept lab experiment that people are now accustomed to believe is the status quo for gaming.

    When is the last time Nvidia focused on promoting titles that were actually fun to play vs eye candy? Who truly cares how the light hits particular models in a game, if the whole premise of the game is crap?


    While I agree with some of what you said that dev studios could improve their pipeline and further optimize techniques and rendering workloads. And yes I do agree that if a game isn't fun then who cares how good it looks. But to some extent I do want graphically impressive titles and I do want them to push beyond what's currently possible. It's a classic problem of "the chicken or the egg" however. If there is nothing to really tax today's hardware then what incentive is there for GPU manufacturers to really push development of better, more powerful GPUs? If the GPUs aren't powerful enough to render in real time an artist's vision, what's the point of a studio spending time and money developing an amazingly real and accurate engine that no one will be able to run for years? 
     
    Everyone is quick to blame lazy devs because X game won't run well on X system or whatever. And while that certainly can be the case some times, it's not the case all of the time. Sometimes there is a rendering technique that just can't be run as well on today's hardware (ray tracing anyone?) but will on tomorrow's GPU after the architecture is more optimized for it. 

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/06 21:59:58 (permalink)
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    They Need to go back & tweak the Code if a 2080Ti can't run it .... something is Wrong in the code optimization




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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/07 01:57:07 (permalink)
    Ive watched a few 4K videos on youtube of people showing off the game at max settings, but I have not seen a setting anywhere for HDR: https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/09/red-dead-redemption-2-pc-specs/
     

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/07 07:11:15 (permalink)
    Well, my first launch worked perfectly from the Rockstar launcher. And I play at 1440p. The benchmark with my hardware yielded 64 FPS max on a first gen i7 920 and GTX 1070. The graphics looked great. I didn't turn on AA because it looks similar with my 25 inch monitor with the good PPI.

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/07 10:38:11 (permalink)
    The game runs great when it works. The performance is fine if you ask me. I run it fine on both my 2080Ti system and 1080Ti system. Yes, you do have to bring down some graphics settings if you want more than around 60 FPS, but wouldn't you rather have the option to do so? I mean, usually a developer would not give this many options for graphics, but you would get better performance. If you want better performance, turn down some settings. BTW, the game looks great! Even with some lowered settings the game still looks great.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/07 14:24:57 (permalink)
    Yes, it still looks fantastic with settings less than ultra.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/07 14:27:59 (permalink)
    I'm working off the current theory that this is like any Rockstar title, interesting and fun if single player storyline mode, but cancer when on the online version of it.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/13 14:22:05 (permalink)
    The game looks good, but it is kind of boring so far. Who wants to play a western simulator? I want a shoot em up western, more action less sim.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/13 15:18:03 (permalink)
    Be sure to check out some fixes for this title from Nvidia's newest driver.

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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/14 12:47:24 (permalink)
    Last few days I play Dark Souls 15h daily.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/14 20:12:27 (permalink)
    Now if they keep going with everything cutting edge to the artist's view and pushing graphics to the absolute limit,  do you end up with games only those with enough money to have the latest,  most powerful systems the only people that can play it?  Seems like the population of players would dwindle or maybe that is how it is supposed to be.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/14 20:33:43 (permalink)
    So far I'm finding it rather unbalanced. Early on you can pawn a bunch of wagons at a fence to gain quick cash, but the game makes it really hard to earn cash hunting. They have a hunting cart, but by the time you can get it, you don't need it because you've already got cash elsewhere. The waggon mechanics sort of piss me off. I want to load any old random waggon up with skins and caracasses from hunting, but I can't. There are some really dumb mechanics issues with gameplay happening.
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    Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 will bring your PC to its knees 2019/11/15 02:41:04 (permalink)
    ok.. this may be a stupid question at this stage. but what are the recommend pc specs for this game??
     
    heard you need tons of GB to install it!!   is it true? over 100GB?
     
    i upgraded my pc last MARCH..went from a GTX760 SC 2GB to a freaking GTX1080 Ti  with11GB!! and installed a 8700 hexa core (with 12 threads each core) CPU!!!
    so i really hope they arent pushing the thing to the point that only rich folks can play it with full eye candy
     
    post edited by Miguell - 2019/11/15 02:47:07

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