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2020/10/01 16:21:51 (permalink)
Hey All,
 
I was fortunate enough to get a 3090 FTW3 Ultra, however, from what I can tell the GPU clock seems to be running low.  I am using the OC VBIOS (via toggle switch), without an OC and the power target/temp/voltage sliders maxed out I am getting between a 1770-1800 boost clock.  If I add a +40Hz GPU OC this improves to 1785-1830.  Based on other users experience I figure I should be boosting 1900+ without an OC.  The card is staying relatively cool at 70C under max load.  
 
Does anyone have any ideas?  Did I just lose out on the silicon lottery?
 
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Cheers,
 
Tony
 
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Nvidia Drivers 456.55
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 16:37:14 (permalink)
    What game / benchmark?

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 16:44:20 (permalink)
    Not boosting to advertised speeds straight out of the box without touching anything is grounds for rma.

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 16:53:00 (permalink)
    I was using the Gears Tactics benchmark. 
     
    I just downloaded Port Royal and w/o OC it mostly stays between 1830-1845 (as reported by Precision X).  What's strange is that 3D Mark monitor is reporting a higher GPU clock that stays between 1860-1875 with peaks into the 1900+ region.  I would assume Precision X is the accurate reading?  My non OC score was 12,668.
     
    I am not too keen on an RMA as I would be without a GPU.  Will EVGA do an advanced replacement if I pay?
     
    Thanks,

    Tony
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 16:57:55 (permalink)
    What resolution? Remember that GPU boost will increase depending on game and load, this is a power saving feature.
     
    You can try enabling "Prefer Max Performance" in the NVIDIA control panel to force it to a higher P State.


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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:03:03 (permalink)
    I am running at 4k and already had 'Prefer Max Performance' set.
     
    I re-ran Port Royal with a +100 OC and Precision X is reporting clocks of 1875-1890.  The fact that the +100 OC didn't crash leads me to believe this is a VBIOS thing?  If I had a poor chip I would think it would crash. 
     
    Thanks for your help,

    Tony 
     
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:05:44 (permalink)

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:11:02 (permalink)
    Wow I didn't even realize that EVGA warranty requires original ownership, that stinks.  I purchased mine from a scalper.  I guess those are the breaks and I am stuck with what I have. 
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:13:46 (permalink)
    The card can still be rma'd...
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:16:50 (permalink)
    yeah they stand by their product, unless you bought it off someone else. then it apparently ceases to be their product....
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:27:44 (permalink)
    youcanteatthat
    yeah they stand by their product, unless you bought it off someone else. then it apparently ceases to be their product....




    You realize most companies void all warranty once the product is sold 2nd hand and/or without original receipt? At least EVGA still holds warranty. That is why a whole boat load of us support them blindly. We know we are in good hands.


     

     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 17:29:30 (permalink)
    Hey,
    I'm curios are you using the latest driver?  If you are using 456.55 try the earlier drivers  456.38
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 18:17:48 (permalink)
    Sajin
    The card can still be rma'd...
     
     




    Thanks Sajin,  I didn't realize that; you would think EVGA would make that policy clear on their warranty page and not have to reference a forum post. I will reach out to their service department and see if they would advise an RMA.  At the end of the day its not the end of the world, an extra ~100-150MHz won't amount to more than a few frames in the real world.  I just wanted to see if I was missing something on my end. 
     
    EVGA would not honor the Watch Dogs Legion promotion for me even with second hand proof of sale; I hope they will adhere to the rules on the forum post shared.
     
    vgerik1234
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    yeah they stand by their product, unless you bought it off someone else. then it apparently ceases to be their product....




    You realize most companies void all warranty once the product is sold 2nd hand and/or without original receipt? At least EVGA still holds warranty. That is why a whole boat load of us support them blindly. We know we are in good hands.




    I had an issue with my MSI 2080Ti Gaming X Trio that I also bought second hand at launch last time around.  No issues with MSI honoring warranty, they didn't even require receipt they just go by the manufacturer date for validity if you don't provide proof of purchase/sale.
     
    leaf
    Hey,
    I'm curios are you using the latest driver?  If you are using 456.55 try the earlier drivers  456.38



    With the earlier drivers the clocks were actually lower which was weird (I would have expect the opposite with the stability issues reported).  I was around 1725-1750 with 456.38.
     
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 18:45:15 (permalink)
    Just curious what does it crash at? What's its max overclock?
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 19:31:48 (permalink)
    Not true... but you will need the receipt
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 19:34:31 (permalink)
    Idk if this helps but I was able to OC mine to +1000 clock and +125 GPU (using X1 scan). This is power at 107 and voltage at 100.
     
    Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra
    i9 9900k @ 5.0ghz
    32gb pc3200 ram
    Asus Rog hero maximus xi
    Windows 10
    Driver 456.55
     
    On Superposition, I was getting 6-8th place at 4k and 8k. This is on the trial version. One thing I did notice was my Star Wars jedi would crash to desktop if I played at that speed. I run 1440p, Ultra settings for star wars. I'll probably lower the memory speed.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 19:42:47 (permalink)
    Op stock clocks are 1800 which you said you were getting stock. It's not going to go to 1800 or more all the time. Newer drivers also smoothed out the clock curve as well. Jayztwocents tested older drivers and newer one literally not difference in gaming performance.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 19:47:01 (permalink)
    The EVGA warranty terms honestly couldn’t be any clearer. They are expressly available on EVGA’s site. Secondhand purchasers of most GPUs can take advantage of a limited transferable warranty. However, optional extended warranties are not transferred, and the clock begins ticking on the original date of shipment from EVGA or an Authorized Reseller, not when you buy it from the scalper. Keep in mind that the scalper had to purchase that card from EVGA or an AUTHORIZED RESELLER. Otherwise the limited warranty does not apply at all. All in all, EVGA’s warranties are the best of any GPU manufacturer and, honestly, you probably won’t ever need it given the superior quality of EVGA cards and craftsmanship in the first place!
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 20:40:21 (permalink)
    This thread is out of control.
     
    RMA the video card if it can't achieve advertised boost clocks.
     
    And complain about off-topic nonsense elsewhere.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 20:42:28 (permalink)
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 20:45:26 (permalink)
    Todeseng3l
    Hey All,
     
    I was fortunate enough to get a 3090 FTW3 Ultra, however, from what I can tell the GPU clock seems to be running low.  I am using the OC VBIOS (via toggle switch), without an OC and the power target/temp/voltage sliders maxed out I am getting between a 1770-1800 boost clock.  If I add a +40Hz GPU OC this improves to 1785-1830.  Based on other users experience I figure I should be boosting 1900+ without an OC.  The card is staying relatively cool at 70C under max load.  
     
    Does anyone have any ideas?  Did I just lose out on the silicon lottery?
     
    Precision X Captures attached.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Tony
     
    My system:
     
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 18363
    Nvidia Drivers 456.55
    EVGA X299 Dark
    EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra
    i9-7900X All Cores @ 4.8GHz
    32Gb Ram
    Corsair AX1600i 
     
     
     




    I wouldn't worry about it a whole lot, it seems like these cards just don't clock that high on certain loads because they run out of power.  Try Furmark 2560x1920 8x MSAA, that should make it clock pretty high while barely hitting the power limit.  Then try 0x MSAA and watch the FPS go way up, power max out, and clocks drop like a rock.  As long as you get similar max, average clocks and temps to unmodified cards in 3DMark benches (OC'd with max power), you have a good card.
     
    Also, at 70C (hot! for a FTW3, because auto fans+max power) you're dropping boost bins so you could pick up 15-30mhz at the same settings if it's under 60C.  So better case airflow and faster fans, or just crank the OC.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/10/01 20:52:55
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 21:59:35 (permalink)
    So I ran my 3090 FTW3 Ultra in Port Royal and never saw less than 1890 with your settings. See the attached screenshots.
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/01 22:15:33 (permalink)
    I also played a round of Modern Warfare 2019 with your settings. 4k all settings maxed out with FPS limited to 97 so I could play in HDR on my PG27UQ. Never went below 1800 according to the min results and I didn't see below 1905 on the viewable graph.

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 05:35:03 (permalink)
    Just curious, what score are people seeing at stock settings in Port Royal?  My card seems to be on the low end and has a time with more than a +100 OC @ 107% power w/OC vbios.  The best score I was able to get was in the 13,236 with the room at 20C and all fans at full blast.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 07:42:10 (permalink)
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    Just curious, what score are people seeing at stock settings in Port Royal?  My card seems to be on the low end and has a time with more than a +100 OC @ 107% power w/OC vbios.  The best score I was able to get was in the 13,236 with the room at 20C and all fans at full blast.




    You are exactly in line with 3090 FTW3. I have mine a paired with a 5GHz 9900K & 3600MHz RAM: 13100-13200 have been my swings with stock. With the Auto OC Scan, it gave me +260 and +50, I got 13255. My highest manual OC was 13560, but I didn't really try too hard. Port Royal doesn't let my card boost consistently over 2000 MHz, which is expected based off of what Lee and Jacob have said about power draw, gpu hunger, cpu hunger, etc. Even though temps ~NEVER~ pass 72*C, I have a feeling once the thing is on water, it will stay over 2000 no issue.
     
    A bunch of games will stay over 2000 consistently. A bunch of games won't. But you are almost guaranteed 1920-1980 as your boost average.


     

     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 08:39:34 (permalink)
    chumeniuk
    Just curious, what score are people seeing at stock settings in Port Royal?  My card seems to be on the low end and has a time with more than a +100 OC @ 107% power w/OC vbios.  The best score I was able to get was in the 13,236 with the room at 20C and all fans at full blast.



     
    14052. It's been heating up in CA (27.5-28C in my room) again so my temps kind of suck. Says 58 average but in reality it was hovering 68ish for most of the run. Can't wait to get a waterblock for this thing, feel like the card has plenty of headroom left.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 09:00:24 (permalink)
    I would love to get mine under water too.  The temps are much higher than I'm used and my setup, while having a lot of fans, was setup for water cooling.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 09:06:00 (permalink)
    I was a bit worried about my default boost (~1850), but based on this thread it seems that it's normal? I've had no issues doing +500 mem/+175 core with full power limits and while it would hit high temps (~80C), it would boost in Superposition to a bit above 2000MHz quite consistently (1080p extreme score being a bit above 13400).
    I'm pretty sure my temps are mostly related to my case airflow not being great - Meshify S2 with stock fans and Corsair AIO on the top as exhaust.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 09:14:46 (permalink)
    Something doesn't sound right with that.

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 09:25:54 (permalink)
    Todeseng3l
    Wow I didn't even realize that EVGA warranty requires original ownership, that stinks.  I purchased mine from a scalper.  I guess those are the breaks and I am stuck with what I have. 




    Never, ever buy from a scalper. You're part of the problem.
     
    Sorry but I have no sympathy for you simply because of this fact. 
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