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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 09:51:44 (permalink)
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Wow I didn't even realize that EVGA warranty requires original ownership, that stinks.  I purchased mine from a scalper.  I guess those are the breaks and I am stuck with what I have. 




Never, ever buy from a scalper. You're part of the problem.
 
Sorry but I have no sympathy for you simply because of this fact. 


https://forums.evga.com/m.m.aspx?m=2848860&p=1

Secondhand Owners - Secondhand owners of a product shipped from EVGA on or after May 25th, 2018 must provide a proof of purchase of the sale from the previous owner to you, the current owner.

So, all it takes is YOUR proof of purchase from the scalper. Not the scalpers proof of purchase.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 10:01:48 (permalink)
I honestly don't know what's going on.  I downloaded MSI afterburner to see if the clocks were consistent with Precision X and I was getting ~1860 average clock with no OC.  I closed afterburner, opened Precision X, re-ran Port Royal and my average clock was ~1930 with no OC; which was the highest clock I have seen to date.  I can't explain why all of a sudden it decided to boost much higher.
 
For whatever reason it also appears that Precision X is negatively impacting my port royal score when its running in the background as compared to afterburner.  I have attached the run results, even with a higher GPU clock from Precision X my Port Royal score is almost 300 points lower than when I used afterburner. 
 
I'm not going to get caught up in the numbers, I am just going to game :) 
 
Thanks for all your input gentlemen, have a nice weekend!
 
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 10:06:37 (permalink)
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I honestly don't know what's going on.  I downloaded MSI afterburner to see if the clocks were consistent with Precision X and I was getting ~1860 average clock with no OC.  I closed afterburner, opened Precision X, re-ran Port Royal and my average clock was ~1930 with no OC; which was the highest clock I have seen to date.  I can't explain why all of a sudden it decided to boost much higher.
 
For whatever reason it also appears that Precision X is negatively impacting my port royal score when its running in the background as compared to afterburner.  I have attached the run results, even with a higher GPU clock from Precision X my Port Royal score is almost 300 points lower than when I used afterburner. 
 
I'm not going to get caught up in the numbers, I am just going to game :) 
 
Thanks for all your input gentlemen, have a nice weekend!
 
Tony    


During their OC runs of the 3080 and 3090, Gamer's Nexus set Precision X and then closed it as it does negatively impact scores when it is running.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 10:31:33 (permalink)
Thanks for the tip!
 
Latest result w/ Precision X closed: 13,715 
 
100% Fan Speed
+125MHz GPU OC
+750MHz Memory OC

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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 10:32:03 (permalink)

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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:11:25 (permalink)
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Wow I didn't even realize that EVGA warranty requires original ownership, that stinks.  I purchased mine from a scalper.  I guess those are the breaks and I am stuck with what I have. 


Now I really want to know how much you paid for your card.


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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:33:31 (permalink)
Cracked Port Royal Top 100:
 

 
GPU +155MHz
Memory +1100MHz
 
Strange that even with a 155Mhz OC, I am only averaging ~1930MHz.  No crashes either, she still has legs left in her but I will wait until I can upgrade to a Zen 3.  Even in Port Royal I'm sure my i9-9700X is bottlenecking me just a bit.
 

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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:34:48 (permalink)

 
Wow... I'm in the top 30 on an air cooled card!
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:43:19 (permalink)
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Not boosting to advertised speeds straight out of the box without touching anything is grounds for rma.

 
Isn't the advertised boost clock 1800mhz? How is bad OC luck grounds for RMA? I must misunderstand.
post edited by brandondies - 2020/10/02 11:45:20
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:49:34 (permalink)
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Not boosting to advertised speeds straight out of the box without touching anything is grounds for rma.

 
Isn't the advertised boost clock 1800mhz? How is bad OC luck grounds for RMA? I must misunderstand.

Read the first post. He wasn't achieving advertised boost clocks. Sajin's comment had nothing to do with overclocking. I don't know where it became misinterpreted.

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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:50:52 (permalink)
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Not boosting to advertised speeds straight out of the box without touching anything is grounds for rma.

 
Isn't the advertised boost clock 1800mhz? How is bad OC luck grounds for RMA? I must misunderstand.

1770-1800 boost clock with temp, power, and voltage sliders maxed out.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 11:53:43 (permalink)
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Not boosting to advertised speeds straight out of the box without touching anything is grounds for rma.

 
Isn't the advertised boost clock 1800mhz? How is bad OC luck grounds for RMA? I must misunderstand.

Read the first post. He wasn't achieving advertised boost clocks. Sajin's comment had nothing to do with overclocking. I don't know where it became misinterpreted.

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Not boosting to advertised speeds straight out of the box without touching anything is grounds for rma.

 
Isn't the advertised boost clock 1800mhz? How is bad OC luck grounds for RMA? I must misunderstand.

1770-1800 boost clock with temp, power, and voltage sliders maxed out.



My bad, I was going off of this.
 
Todeseng3l
I was using the Gears Tactics benchmark. 
 
I just downloaded Port Royal and w/o OC it mostly stays between 1830-1845 (as reported by Precision X).  What's strange is that 3D Mark monitor is reporting a higher GPU clock that stays between 1860-1875 with peaks into the 1900+ region.  I would assume Precision X is the accurate reading?

 
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 16:23:30 (permalink)
Sorry wrong thread
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 17:15:11 (permalink)
I'm hitting 1950 without oc'ing it so idk what could be happening here 🤔
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/02 17:45:17 (permalink)
I submitted a ticket to EVGA, I will see what they say. 
 
Without Power/Temp/Voltage targets maxed I am staying well below 1800,  Port Royal reports an average clock of 1750. 

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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:25:24 (permalink)
EVGA's response to my ticket was not very helpful:
 
"Hello,

Per our specs page for the FTW3, the rated boost is 1740Mhz, which it seems you're averaging right about. Can you confirm that you're using separate power cables for each of the 8 pin connectors, and not using two connector from the same cable? This could limit power to the card and prevent it from boosting higher. 

Regards,
EVGA" 
 
It is discouraging that the EVGA support staff doesn't know the specifications of their own product.  Such great insight after waiting 3 days for a response.  Yes, I have discrete 8-pin connectors running to the card.
 
@EVGA_JacobF can you please intervene and get me in touch with someone who can help?
 
Thanks,
 
Tony
 
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:31:04 (permalink)
The card is advertised at 1800 not 1740.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:33:16 (permalink)
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The card is advertised at 1800 not 1740.



My point exactly.... not the greatest response from EVGA support.  I hope Jacob can get involved to help escalate this.
 
Nevertheless, I submitted a response to the ticket with a screen capture of their specification page for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  I will report what they come back with.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:40:28 (permalink)
I sent support an e-mail, so someone else should look at it for you again.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:44:12 (permalink)
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I sent support an e-mail, so someone else should look at it for you again.



Thanks appreciate the boost!
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:44:59 (permalink)
No problem.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 16:58:41 (permalink)
Hey!
 
Very nice to speak with you regarding this. Glad I was able to assist. 
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 17:33:50 (permalink)
EVGA's follow up was awesome, received a call from Daniel literally 20min after I posted here!  Thanks Jacob, Daniel and Sajin for helping!
 
EVGA is cross shipping a replacement card and covering shipping cost, awesome customer service!
 
I will post the boost clocks of the replacement card when I receive it.
 
Thanks again,
 
Tony
post edited by Todeseng3l - 2020/10/07 17:37:41
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/07 22:18:52 (permalink)
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/08 08:38:21 (permalink)
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EVGA's follow up was awesome, received a call from Daniel literally 20min after I posted here!  Thanks Jacob, Daniel and Sajin for helping!
 
EVGA is cross shipping a replacement card and covering shipping cost, awesome customer service!
 
I will post the boost clocks of the replacement card when I receive it.
 
Thanks again,
 
Tony




Sent you another mail.


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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/19 07:08:00 (permalink)
Just to provide closure to the thread, I received a replacement card from EVGA.  Clocks are up ~100Mhz from the previous sample, they are still a bit lower than what others are reporting but are now at least meeting specification (in Gears min. boost clock is at 1800MHz with default targets).  For whatever reason I am not seeing significant gains when I move the power/temp/targets to max values.  The clock was actually higher with standard targets on the Port Royal run but my score still increased with max targets.
 
I appreciate EVGAs support and sending me a new card.
 
Cheers,
 
Tony

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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/19 10:12:46 (permalink)
Man even with the replacement your clock speeds are low. It's multiple reports/threads of these speeds that is getting me worried about the FTW3 Ultra. My 3090FE stays at 2130mhz at around 55c-60c.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/19 10:18:58 (permalink)
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Man even with the replacement your clock speeds are low. It's multiple reports/threads of these speeds that is getting me worried about the FTW3 Ultra. My 3090FE stays at 2130mhz at around 55c-60c.


Not every chip clocks the same. Some people get more lucky than others!
 
Also, what type of game/benchmark can change the clock speed quite a bit due to the differences in total power draw (and temp). Edit: and resolution as well.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/19 17:43:58 (permalink)
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Man even with the replacement your clock speeds are low. It's multiple reports/threads of these speeds that is getting me worried about the FTW3 Ultra. My 3090FE stays at 2130mhz at around 55c-60c.


Not every chip clocks the same. Some people get more lucky than others!
 
Also, what type of game/benchmark can change the clock speed quite a bit due to the differences in total power draw (and temp). Edit: and resolution as well.




While I agree with your first sentance, your second doesn't bode well. As in the FTW3 costing more than the FE, with a much higher power limit and good 'Premium Cooling' SHOULD get higher clock speeds and outperform my FE in the exact same tests and from what I'm seeing a lot lately is many of them just aren't unless someone gets REAL lucky. That is my overall concern.
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Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Low Boost Clocks 2020/10/19 17:56:11 (permalink)
From your port royal details,
Your screen will be losing you about 400 points. 4K screen running with scaling. Swith it to 1080p, disable gpu scaling and set dpi to 100%.
Run the stand alone 3dmark is also good for another 100 points.

Then lastly temps are your problem. Your dropping 12 boost bins by the time your at 60C.
Do that and get your card at 40C youd have a score of around 14.2K.
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