alpharius194
The lower temp may be due to you now having two big radiators instead of just the one 480 even though the kingpin is now in the loop. Your gpu is not constantly sucking down 500+W like you’re prepared for but your rads are still dissipating 300w+ a piece. Sadly I haven’t gotten anything out of the shuffle since February I’m about to stop entering. I read an article the odds are somewhere around 1/100,000 or so. Feel lucky I was able to help a friend get a 5600x and 3070 (at $600 + a psu) and my 5900x (still a touch salty about not getting a 5950x) the number of L emails I have to go along with that is disheartening

alpharius194
Jesus 900w on the one radiator is ridiculous. The biggest I can fit in my case is 360x45 if I don’t want the fans right up against the pump or 30 for pushxpull

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Dabadger84

alpharius194
Jesus 900w on the one radiator is ridiculous. The biggest I can fit in my case is 360x45 if I don’t want the fans right up against the pump or 30 for pushxpull

Yeah when I first saw the 480x60 radiator I was like "even with how big my case is I wonder if I'll have issues fitting it", but with all the room I had up front it isn't a problem, even with the fans mounted on the inside of the bracket instead of the "outside" like they're supposed to be if you listen to the case's guide:
 

Thicc.
 
You can actually see the gaps I was talking about with the X3M fans in the picture lol
 
And the P360 radiator that was included with the kit is a 38mm thick one, so even it's bigger than the AIO radiator that used to be on the Kingpin.  I do wonder how good my mount is on the block with my hotspot temp being what it is, but I'm going to wait for other people to post their results before I pass judgement on my mount being good or bad.
 
I also have the pump/res just randomly mounted to a bracket that would otherwise be in the front of the case, then screwed through a mounting slider intended for the same style of bracket to mount a radiator there... which again, Thermaltake with their lack of brain power was like "yeah you can totally put a radiator there" and blow air where? lol:
 

Does it look cool? Yeah. Does having a radiator like that actually do any good?  Probably not... I like how that picture doesn't have any of the dust filters on the case either. :-D
 
I almost put the thicker radiator up top like they have in that picture, but I thought about how much of a clearance issue it would have with fans on both sides (and how heavy it would be to hold it while getting it mounted) and decided to just leave it up front... Still kinda surprised with only having two brackets holding it at the top & the bottom it's as rigid as it is.
 
Edit: XD you can see that the chipset fan is like "Nah I'm good" in the pic of my system, LUL

That PCI-E riser in the picture is terrifying. "Why yes I would like my 3090 suspended by a screw, liquid filled acrylic tubing and a daily prayer to the machine god" That is a prime candidate for a bracket.
BTW Clovis if you see this someone on the Performance-PCS discord is doing a 5950x on a chiller/direct die and is planning sub-zero.
Slightly off topic, does anyone else have the VGA light stay on their motherboard when they use classified? My gpu functions perfectly fine and it's done it since before I moved so I do not think they're related. I only bothered to look up if it was an error today because it is really damn bright.

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alpharius194
LTT just did a review of one of the EK pre-built systems with a 5950x/3090 and man their temps are way higher than yours (or anyone using liquid cooling). Can’t ever get screenshots or any photo to post so here’s the video link, they flash the EKWB response statement around 7:50 to his comments on incredibly high temps
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEbKHtTM3eY

My immediate reaction to the setup after he took it out of the box is not enough fans or airflow, neither radiator has push/pull and with that much heat generation in the system, push/pull is a big difference especially on tiny ass radiators like those.  They look like 30mm thick ones.  That's just not enough rad I don't think... according to EK's information on radiators that's "only" about 700W of heat dissipation for a slimmer 360 plus slimmer 240 - add to that the pump they put in it is garbage and yeah, not surprised the temps are sub-optimal.
 
It looks sick though.  Way cleaner than mine LOL

alpharius194

Dabadger84

alpharius194
LTT just did a review of one of the EK pre-built systems with a 5950x/3090 and man their temps are way higher than yours (or anyone using liquid cooling). Can’t ever get screenshots or any photo to post so here’s the video link, they flash the EKWB response statement around 7:50 to his comments on incredibly high temps
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEbKHtTM3eY

My immediate reaction to the setup after he took it out of the box is not enough fans or airflow, neither radiator has push/pull and with that much heat generation in the system, push/pull is a big difference especially on tiny ass radiators like those.  They look like 30mm thick ones.  That's just not enough rad I don't think... according to EK's information on radiators that's "only" about 700W of heat dissipation for a slimmer 360 plus slimmer 240 - add to that the pump they put in it is garbage and yeah, not surprised the temps are sub-optimal.
 
It looks sick though.  Way cleaner than mine LOL

I agree not enough radiator to push anything beyond stock and for $6000 I’d want all of the bells and whistles not just some. Those lian li cases and distros are very clean I will admit but I’m pretty sure I spent less than $6000 and my case was obnoxiously expensive. After flipping through the singularity website I was hooked.
[/quoti wasn't aware of their cases and hardware until your comment. God damnit. I'm feeling the same way. I like the 011d live everyone but I don't want the same case now I'm already planning builds.

Why did you do this to my wallet lol

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Dabadger84
Found someone with almost the exact same setup as me, their motherboard is just the Wi-Fi version, they also have 4 sticks of my RAM, and it looks like they had the same issue.  They're running 1833 FCLK, 3666MHz RAM, couldn't get it to run any higher with 4 sticks installed.  So I guess I'll try that when I get up.  They did say they got the timings tightened further at 3666 though, so that's a positive sign... sadly their review doesn't mention voltage used.

Ya I’m wondering if this is the two separate packages of ram rearing it’s head here. Take it in small steps, I tried quite a few spots with my two sticks before settling at 3800. You could even just try peeling some primary timing out of them. If they could do ~1.5v at cl13 or cl14 across all timings it would probably be a good chunk of performance. Notkyon ram latency calculator has 3600cl13 at 7.222ns and 3800cl14 at 7.368ns

Also I use the snip tool instead of print screen I think it’s shift+windows+s and you just drag the tool across whatever you want