Have to say I am disappointed in these results: GPU: 45.4CGPU2: 45.3CGPU Hot Spot: 56.6CMem1: 36.6CMem2: 39.3CMem3: 38.7CMemory Junction Temp: 58CPWR1: 43.0CPWR2: 38.1CPWR3: 37.5CPWR4: 38.3CPWR5: 38.4C I was just expecting... I dunno. Not that it's not impressive, memory temps below 40C for a 36 minute stress test at +1000 is nice. I guess either the Kingpin AIO does a better job than I gave it credit for, or this block is the beta tier like I assume it is compared to how low it can go with a full coverage block that's higher end. Either way, overall I'd say it's a good purchase for those worried about memory temperatures etc, because that is a pretty gigantic difference, even with the backplate side cooling mods, this is (compared to running the AIO with the backplate pads/paste/heatsinks) : GPU: -3.4CGPU2: -5.6CGPU Hot Spot wasn't available yet when I last ran the PR ST on the card with the AIOMem1: -9CMem2: -12.7CMem3: -9.6CMem Junction Temp: -10CPWR1: -5.1CPWR2: -2.1CPWR3: -10.2CPWR4: +4.1C --- So the two hotter VRMs are running cooler now, PWR5: +3.9C --- but the 2 formerly coolest ones are now hotter I guess looking at those numbers I shouldn't be disappointed. It is a 15-25% reduction in iCX Mem temps, and overall everything is running cooler... I do wonder if I had the flow the right way (The GUIDE SAYS INLET ON THE SIDE CLOSER TO THE NVLINK BRIDGE but the ARROWS on the block say otherwise) if it would run even cooler? I'll never know cuz there's 0% chance I'm taking this loop apart for anything but cleaning.
Clovis559Which Bios are these tested on?
Clovis559Finally ordered all my stuff to fix my flow. Looks like some of the parts won't be here till next Friday. What a long week it's going to be! :P $500 out the door, but it's going to be nice
alpharius194Is that PR score with stock cpu settings still or did you start tuning again?
alpharius194Ya I’m personally curious of the gains from a 2000mhz IF. I really wanted the 4000 cl15 kit but it wasn’t on the motherboard QVL so I didn’t want to risk it and the early AGESA was touchy over 1900
Dabadger84alpharius194Ya I’m personally curious of the gains from a 2000mhz IF. I really wanted the 4000 cl15 kit but it wasn’t on the motherboard QVL so I didn’t want to risk it and the early AGESA was touchy over 1900Will be interesting to see once that update comes out that hopefully allows it. So I'm running a stability test on the CPU again (CPU/FPU/Cache so it's drawing 215-222W according to HWInfo's package power readout), checked my watt-o-meter (which only has the PSU plugged in to it) - with just the CPU radiator fans spun up, I'm seeing 390-400W at the wall :-DLoad temps are ever so slightly lower (about 2-4C), neat that adding extra radiator space etc resulted in a drop at all when the loop is so over-capable of handling the CPU's heat load as it was, let alone now.Warmest motherboard VRM temp yet... at a blazing 37C If I ever actually hit something that got full draw on the CPU & GPU and spun up all the fans that are controlled based on temps, I'm pretty sure I'd see over 1000W from the wall for sure. Guess that means the rest of my system is drawing at least 150W or so though, which given it's 9 fans (6 on the CPU radiator & 3 other fans, two of which are the bottom intake, spin up to max when the CPU is running this warm), and the GPU drawing around 32W because it's displaying stuff, isn't too horrible, but it's definitely not on the "light" side. I'm so glad I picked up that 460W tiny eVGA PSU for leak testing though, that made the whole process faster because I didn't have to fully unplug stuff in my system to run the pump for leak testing off my system's PSU.
alpharius194I used a monoblock on my z390 hero, they’re good but the cpu runs a couple of C higher because it’s dissipating VRM heat as well. Visually it looked great, if I could post photos I would. The performance of the optimus cpu block will be much better for cpu temps. It and the ekwb quantum magnitude cpu blocks are the best two you can get and they’re only about 1-2C max cooler than a standard block from the testing I saw GN do.
Dabadger84With how cool the VRMs already run on this board, especially in my case, a monoblock would just be a waste. All you really need is a fan blowing at them & they stay cool. Literally never passed 37C while doing that all-core stress test that had the CPU sitting at 68-80C throughout & the RAM floating in the high 30s/low 40s. Don't get me wrong, monoblocks look sick, but there's no chance in h-e-double-hockey-sticks I'm taking this loop apart again until it's cleaning time. lol I really wish chipset on this motherboard didn't run so warm & the chipset fan wasn't so dumb (literally turned off because chipset is at 54C & it deems that "fine" lol). At least with the KP block the chipset fan is partially not blocked so the fan I have blowing on the lower M.2 is also blowing air in that area - under CPU loads that spins up along with the case intake fans, chipset drops down to 51C most of the time so far. I just don't like anything in the system running warmer than it has to be, and the fact that the PCH fan is like "NAH MATE I OFF" and I can't do anything about it unless I want to take the board out & remove the chipset heatsinks cover to re-wire it or replace it with a better heatsink, is pretty annoying. I'm really perturbed about the zero RGB on the plexi for the HydroCopper KP block though, but I had a strong feeling that was how it would be.
Clovis559That does stink about the lighting for the RGB. Like don't even include RGB if it's just the light on the side. Do the lights on the fans light up your card at all?I'm not too excited about fixing my loop next week. Last time I redid everything I started at noon and finished at 2am. This time shouldn't be nearly as rough.
Clovis559alpharius194I used a monoblock on my z390 hero, they’re good but the cpu runs a couple of C higher because it’s dissipating VRM heat as well. Visually it looked great, if I could post photos I would. The performance of the optimus cpu block will be much better for cpu temps. It and the ekwb quantum magnitude cpu blocks are the best two you can get and they’re only about 1-2C max cooler than a standard block from the testing I saw GN do.I'm wondering though, if I would have that problem. The VRMs would cool after the CPU, the water reaching the CPU first would always be near the same temperature. One of these days I have to meter the temperature of the water before it reaches the reservoir.
wodell757Thanks for the results. Now I got to decide do I want to spend 1k for block and water cooling setup. Guess I could just change the fans on the rad to Noctua NF-A12x25 to get it a little bit quieter.
alpharius194wodell757Thanks for the results. Now I got to decide do I want to spend 1k for block and water cooling setup. Guess I could just change the fans on the rad to Noctua NF-A12x25 to get it a little bit quieter. I haven't used Noctua but EKWB fans are quite low noise for the static pressure performance and you get some pretty lights I switched them day 1. I use the Vardar but the X3M that Badger is using as a few are supposed to be whisper quiet. I don't know how significant the real world performance is of switching to custom cooling outside maybe one clock cycle if youre lucky or another +100 mem gpu. The 10900k may be a different story given intels TVB. If you don't want to do full loop cooling for the aesthetics AND performance it might not be worth the investment. The kingpin is already the top 1% of 3090s but if you do look at Performance-pcs, their prices are usually lower than newegg and they have a wide selection of water-cooling parts
Clovis559Did you ship the item already?