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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/06/24 00:30:53
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Well if it makes anyone feel better, I'm seeing users with the MSI Suprim X and ASUS Strix OC reporting very similar findings, their card tends to "average" around 400W, doesn't hold or sustain 440W and 450W. This is from Tweak Town's review.   Although the Strix looks like it loads its Pin 1, 2 and 3 way more evenly.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 12:23:36
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I am reviving this thread because recently, the RTX 3080 Ti XC3 seems to not be capable of drawing its advertise power draw. https://forums.evga.com/Dear-EVGA-Your-3080-Ti-XC3-Cards-Suck-m3435313.aspx EVGA is working with one of those users and supplied them with a BIOs to access more power. I would like to revive this thread for the FTW3 users that have been wondering the same thing. Why do our cards rarely access the 450W that we are given? Why does core throttling start occurring at 400W? What do we have to do to get a response from EVGA? I did submit a ticket, and got the generic response of "it's working as intended."
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 14:25:52
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@EVGATech_LeeM,
I know you are looking into the XC3 issues but I wanted to contact you here. What about us FTW3 users who have been noticing our cards pretty much dropping clocks and voltages at 400W even though we crank the power slider up to 450W max TDP?
Is EVGA going to look into this issue as well? Whatever you guys discover on the XC3 in terms of power deliver being held back, can it be applied to the FTW3 also?
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:20:47
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My 3080 ti ftw3 hybrid won't go above 360w in anything, not sure what's going on. I know the tdp is 350w but seeing others hit at least 400w makes me think something's off somewhere.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:30:58
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:33:01
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Can't upload pics but in furmark mine only reaches 360w. Interesting thing is that I can overclock to 2100 in games but the power draw stays the same. Maybe I'm missing something
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:39:49
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My 3080 ti ftw3 hybrid won't go above 360w in anything, not sure what's going on. I know the tdp is 350w but seeing others hit at least 400w makes me think something's off somewhere.
Do you have v-sync on and maybe you're playing at 120 or 144 hz? Are you sliding the power slider past 100% in a OC software? What else can you think of that can be holding this back?
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:41:18
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faux123
Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:42:14
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My 3080 ti ftw3 hybrid won't go above 360w in anything, not sure what's going on. I know the tdp is 350w but seeing others hit at least 400w makes me think something's off somewhere.
Do you have v-sync on and maybe you're playing at 120 or 144 hz?
Are you sliding the power slider past 100% in a OC software?
What else can you think of that can be holding this back?
Power slider is at 112 in afterburner, but precision x has 113. I'll check nvidia settings for v sync. I'm not daisy chaining but they are the evga cables with that split into 2 pcie 8 pins
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 15:53:27
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:05:44
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Ddu, reinstall of all drivers, afterburner and precisionx. V sync is off and prefer maximum power checked. Fluctuates between 300w to 360w. Something has to be going on
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:08:22
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Ddu, reinstall of all drivers, afterburner and precisionx. V sync is off and prefer maximum power checked. Fluctuates between 300w to 360w. Something has to be going on
You're running two OC softwares, so one can be screwing the other one over. It happened to me. Even though I had Precision X closed and didn't want it to do anything and I wanted to control it with afterburner, it didn't let me. Did something weird.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:10:00
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Ddu, reinstall of all drivers, afterburner and precisionx. V sync is off and prefer maximum power checked. Fluctuates between 300w to 360w. Something has to be going on
You're running two OC softwares, so one can be screwing the other one over. It happened to me. Even though I had Precision X closed and didn't want it to do anything and I wanted to control it with afterburner, it didn't let me. Did something weird.
I'll uninstall precision x then. But it wasn't running at all. Starting to think it might be my pcie cables
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:15:41
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Thanks, your card seems to be drawing very well and Pin#3 is consistently higher. I'll have to try Timespy Extreme myself and do some testing. Can you extract your bios and send that over too? Also, let me know if it was the normal or OC bios. I'll definitely have to do some investigation tonight and I appreciate what you have done.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:35:14
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Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Thanks, your card seems to be drawing very well and Pin#3 is consistently higher. I'll have to try Timespy Extreme myself and do some testing. Can you extract your bios and send that over too? Also, let me know if it was the normal or OC bios.
I'll definitely have to do some investigation tonight and I appreciate what you have done.
Here's my BIOS. This is FTW3 Hybrid BIOS (normal non-OC) https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234424/234424 I never bother to switch it to OC BIOS as normal is more than enough for me.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:39:36
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faux123
Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Thanks, your card seems to be drawing very well and Pin#3 is consistently higher. I'll have to try Timespy Extreme myself and do some testing. Can you extract your bios and send that over too? Also, let me know if it was the normal or OC bios.
I'll definitely have to do some investigation tonight and I appreciate what you have done.
Here's my BIOS. This is FTW3 Hybrid BIOS (normal non-OC)
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234424/234424
I never bother to switch it to OC BIOS as normal is more than enough for me.
So in GPU-Z your bios number matches the one in that link? "94.02.71.00.C7"
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:43:08
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faux123
Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Thanks, your card seems to be drawing very well and Pin#3 is consistently higher. I'll have to try Timespy Extreme myself and do some testing. Can you extract your bios and send that over too? Also, let me know if it was the normal or OC bios.
I'll definitely have to do some investigation tonight and I appreciate what you have done.
Here's my BIOS. This is FTW3 Hybrid BIOS (normal non-OC)
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234424/234424
I never bother to switch it to OC BIOS as normal is more than enough for me.
So in GPU-Z your bios number matches the one in that link? "94.02.71.00.C7"
Yes, it's the same BIOS.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:46:53
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Yes, it's the same BIOS. Okay, I already have that BIOs, although I'm running it in the OC setting. I'll give the Normal a try and also try Timespy Extreme. I also noticed a new version of Precision X1 came out yesterday and looks like there are new BIOses. Version 1.2.3.0Release: 7/28/2021 - Adds RTX 3080 Ti & RTX 3060 12G Resizable BAR BIOS update upgrade
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 16:55:40
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faux123
Here's my result with my 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid running 3dmark timespy extreme stress test
You mind doing the run and then exporting your GPU-Z data out to an excel file? That would be more helpful.
Here you go, I ran 3 loops of timespy extreme https://pastebin.com/3AYPn4Jf . With 3Dmark I can easily hit the 450 watts power limit.. This card has been amazing.. I have 2 3090 cards and I can say this 3080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid is about the same as my 3090 cards.
Thanks, your card seems to be drawing very well and Pin#3 is consistently higher. I'll have to try Timespy Extreme myself and do some testing. Can you extract your bios and send that over too? Also, let me know if it was the normal or OC bios.
I'll definitely have to do some investigation tonight and I appreciate what you have done.
Here's my BIOS. This is FTW3 Hybrid BIOS (normal non-OC)
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234424/234424
I never bother to switch it to OC BIOS as normal is more than enough for me.
I Flashed the XOC in my normal switch position, and left the OC for recovery, my 3 pin was always lower power draw, my max stable power draw was 430TDP but was usually around 418 in an OC, have no idea if this was because of the switch position
Maybe the OC bios sucks and something is wrong with it and we should be using the normal bios like Faux123 is. My test has been with the OC bios. This one: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234870/234870 But Faux123 is using this one: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234424/234424
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 17:07:52
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Just ran the benchmark. (TSE) My score is down a bit on my 3900x compared to my old 4790k! LOL Temp was higher, but seemed like that 4790k had the magic for TSE. I may have to try tweaking my 3900x a little more. https://www.3dmark.com/co...21824114/spy/20965617# 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 17:13:28
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Just ran the benchmark. (TSE) My score is down a bit on my 3900x compared to my old 4790k! LOL Temp was higher, but seemed like that 4790k had the magic for TSE. I may have to try tweaking my 3900x a little more.
https://www.3dmark.com/co...21824114/spy/20965617#
Was your card able to hold higher TDP like Faux123 does? I graphed his results doing timespy extreme and he averages 443W, that's average! His temperatures shot up though to 70C and his clocks dropped a few bins.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 17:23:56
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Just ran the benchmark. (TSE) My score is down a bit on my 3900x compared to my old 4790k! LOL Temp was higher, but seemed like that 4790k had the magic for TSE. I may have to try tweaking my 3900x a little more.
https://www.3dmark.com/co...21824114/spy/20965617#
Was your card able to hold higher TDP like Faux123 does? I graphed his results doing timespy extreme and he averages 443W, that's average! His temperatures shot up though to 70C and his clocks dropped a few bins.
I don't think so. I'm looking at the logs. My average isn't as high. It would be interesting to see how clocks compare during the run, but we'd need to run the same offsets. That's what really matters.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 19:04:59
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Can someone please doe a favor that has a hybrid or even FTW3 normal I guess? GPU-Z your GPU and turn your fans from 0% speed to 100% speed. Does GPU power draw go up? And by how much? And which pin did it draw from, 1, 2 or 3?
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 19:17:51
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while idle, pin 3 went from 4.5 to about 11 watts. no fluctuation with pin 1 or 2. 3080 ftw3 ultra triple fan
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 20:02:19
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while idle, pin 3 went from 4.5 to about 11 watts. no fluctuation with pin 1 or 2.
3080 ftw3 ultra triple fan
Thank you. Hopefully someone can test the hybrid for me to confirm one of my suspicions.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 20:16:33
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FTW3 could definitely use a 500w bios.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/29 20:37:07
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FTW3 could definitely use a 500w bios.
They probably don't want to give it the opportunity to push into a 3090's territory.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/30 00:55:10
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I did some research and I have some findings. Thanks to Faux123 who shared his GPU-Z run of Timespy Extreme Observations- My setup differs from Faux123 who is running both of his PWM 120mm fans off of his GPU, I am not.
- For my setup, I have my fans drawing power directly from the PSU and controlled by my motherboard
- Faux123 results:
- Fan 1: 100% (4.5W)
- Fan 2: 100% (15.6W)
- Average Power Draw 444W
- Average voltage 0.969V
- My results:
- Fan 1: 33% (0.4W)
- Fan 2: 0% (running off of motherboard)
- Average Power Draw 412W
- Average voltage 0.972V
- Running Fan 1 at 33% consumed 0.4W
- Running Fan 1 at 100% consumed 4.5W
ConclusionsThe difference in power draw is due to the fans. If I ran the fans off of the GPU and ran both fans at 100%, I would have approximately 20W of more power draw. What is evident is our voltages. If we were both power limited to the GPU itself and if my card was really drawing 36W less then I would have a lower average voltage. But our voltages are close to the same. What this means is that that the RTX 3080 Ti consumes around 400W for rendering. The remaining 30-50W is saved for other things such as: - Shroud fan
- AIO 120mm fans
- GPU fan for non-hybrid,
- Case fans from PWM port
- RGB light bar
- External RGB strips
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT
2021/07/30 03:29:00
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Yea that's the way to compare (voltage). I was thinking clocks last night but that varies with temp.
What specifically did you run? The TSE stress test or the benchmark? GT1 has a lower load on the GPU than GT2, so it would make a difference as the stress test just runs GT1.
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