talon951
Interesting, I turned off RT in CP2077 and bam, power jump up.  Not much less than the benchmark runs.  Still going with some issue with the bios/driver.  Most likely the bios.  There are other internal limits that we cannot see in the monitoring tools.  
 
https://imgur.com/YY6G43j
 

brandonb21

talon951
Old news. They are RMAing those cards on a case by case basis.

are they rmaing 3080 tis?

talon951

brandonb21

talon951
Old news. They are RMAing those cards on a case by case basis.

are they rmaing 3080 tis?

Uh no, would have to be a recognized problem first at least.

ty_ger07

looniam

ty_ger07
It IS REQUIRED for THIS card to operate at 450 watts.  The FTW3 is a 450 watt card which is not balancing properly and therefore this card was only operating at 405 watts.  You think it is EVGA's preference for the card to misbehave and power limit early, way below the expected power limit?  That is an odd "feature"

Quit talking about the XC3 card. The XC3 card isn't a 450 watt card and therefore doesn't need this extra plug. This card does need this third PCI-E power plug.

It is messed up man!  Just admit it!  It's messed up just like the other FTW3 cards of this generation were messed up!  EVGA even released a new revision of the 3090 FTW3 to fix this problem!  Admit it!  But then these cards came out and still have the same old problem!?  It's crazy.

no, it is not required that the card will use that much power. it's still dependent on the quality of silicon.  the only thing messed up is the rampant imaginative speculation thats going on.
 
first thing is stop using software readings as gospel and break out a multi meter. second thing is not all chips equal . .
 
nice chat.

I already covered that: It is true that the card is not required to use all of the power.  If there is something else limiting its ability to boost, it will not use all of the power available.
 
But when the card is telling you that the reason it isn't boosting higher is because of the power limit, and the current total power consumption is 45 watts below what is expected, and one input is very different than another, and one input is over the limit, you know without a shadow of a doubt that 1) the inputs are not balanced, and 2) that the card is not operating at its full potential.
 
You don't need a multimeter to determine this.  P.S. I would like to see you fry your card and multimeters by attempting to prove this wrong. ;)  The card already has multiple built-in multimeter equivalents.  And those equivalents are telling you what the problem is.  If you want to say that those equivalents are wrong and inaccurate, well that is exactly my point, isn't it?  The card is not performing as good as it could because of the inability to balance the inputs; regardless of the reason, that is fact.  Maybe (I doubt it, but I will give you the fullest benefit of doubt) the one input which says it is 154 watts is actually 125 watts; but even if it is misreporting, it is still what the card is utilizing in order to limit its performance, and therefore the card is limiting performance early below what is expected.  That is the problem: the card is limiting performance early (regardless of the speculated reason).

Vinny.S
So how big of an issue is this? We talking like it can reduce the life of your GPU/PSU or just a few percent of performance when gaming?

schulmaster

kram36

ty_ger07

talon951

brandonb21

talon951
Old news. They are RMAing those cards on a case by case basis.

are they rmaing 3080 tis?

Uh no, would have to be a recognized problem first at least.

Isn't that what this thread is about?

Recognized by EVGA, not members on the forum acting like they are part of EVGA's engineering team.

If the 3090FTW PCB is the same as that of the 3080Ti (memory packages notwithstanding), EVGA already has. 

ty_ger07

looniam

ty_ger07
It IS REQUIRED for THIS card to operate at 450 watts.  The FTW3 is a 450 watt card which is not balancing properly and therefore this card was only operating at 405 watts.  You think it is EVGA's preference for the card to misbehave and power limit early, way below the expected power limit?  That is an odd "feature"

Quit talking about the XC3 card. The XC3 card isn't a 450 watt card and therefore doesn't need this extra plug. This card does need this third PCI-E power plug.

It is messed up man!  Just admit it!  It's messed up just like the other FTW3 cards of this generation were messed up!  EVGA even released a new revision of the 3090 FTW3 to fix this problem!  Admit it!  But then these cards came out and still have the same old problem!?  It's crazy.

no, it is not required that the card will use that much power. it's still dependent on the quality of silicon.  the only thing messed up is the rampant imaginative speculation thats going on.
 
first thing is stop using software readings as gospel and break out a multi meter. second thing is not all chips equal . .
 
nice chat.

I already covered that: It is true that the card is not required to use all of the power.  If there is something else limiting its ability to boost, it will not use all of the power available.
 
But when the card is telling you that the reason it isn't boosting higher is because of the power limit, and the current total power consumption is 45 watts below what is expected, and one input is very different than another, and one input is over the limit, you know without a shadow of a doubt that 1) the inputs are not balanced, and 2) that the card is not operating at its full potential.
 
You don't need a multimeter to determine this.  P.S. I would like to see you fry your card and multimeters by attempting to prove this wrong. ;)  The card already has multiple built-in multimeter equivalents.  And those equivalents are telling you what the problem is.  If you want to say that those equivalents are wrong and inaccurate, well that is exactly my point, isn't it?  The card is not performing as good as it could because of the inability to balance the inputs; regardless of the reason, that is fact.  Maybe (I doubt it, but I will give you the fullest benefit of doubt) the one input which says it is 154 watts is actually 125 watts; but even if it is misreporting, it is still what the card is utilizing in order to limit its performance, and therefore the card is limiting performance early below what is expected.  That is the problem: the card is limiting performance early (regardless of the speculated reason).

looniam

ty_ger07

looniam

ty_ger07
It IS REQUIRED for THIS card to operate at 450 watts.  The FTW3 is a 450 watt card which is not balancing properly and therefore this card was only operating at 405 watts.  You think it is EVGA's preference for the card to misbehave and power limit early, way below the expected power limit?  That is an odd "feature"

Quit talking about the XC3 card. The XC3 card isn't a 450 watt card and therefore doesn't need this extra plug. This card does need this third PCI-E power plug.

It is messed up man!  Just admit it!  It's messed up just like the other FTW3 cards of this generation were messed up!  EVGA even released a new revision of the 3090 FTW3 to fix this problem!  Admit it!  But then these cards came out and still have the same old problem!?  It's crazy.

no, it is not required that the card will use that much power. it's still dependent on the quality of silicon.  the only thing messed up is the rampant imaginative speculation thats going on.
 
first thing is stop using software readings as gospel and break out a multi meter. second thing is not all chips equal . .
 
nice chat.

I already covered that: It is true that the card is not required to use all of the power.  If there is something else limiting its ability to boost, it will not use all of the power available.
 
But when the card is telling you that the reason it isn't boosting higher is because of the power limit, and the current total power consumption is 45 watts below what is expected, and one input is very different than another, and one input is over the limit, you know without a shadow of a doubt that 1) the inputs are not balanced, and 2) that the card is not operating at its full potential.
 
You don't need a multimeter to determine this.  P.S. I would like to see you fry your card and multimeters by attempting to prove this wrong. ;)  The card already has multiple built-in multimeter equivalents.  And those equivalents are telling you what the problem is.  If you want to say that those equivalents are wrong and inaccurate, well that is exactly my point, isn't it?  The card is not performing as good as it could because of the inability to balance the inputs; regardless of the reason, that is fact.  Maybe (I doubt it, but I will give you the fullest benefit of doubt) the one input which says it is 154 watts is actually 125 watts; but even if it is misreporting, it is still what the card is utilizing in order to limit its performance, and therefore the card is limiting performance early below what is expected.  That is the problem: the card is limiting performance early (regardless of the speculated reason).

wut? you do not know what you're talking about, hint: think a multi meter would fry. you need some remedial education.

and what i will tell you is the power limit is not exclusive to how much a card will max out with its power limit the silcon and TEMPS (anything over 35c) will matter.

kram36

ty_ger07

talon951

brandonb21

talon951
Old news. They are RMAing those cards on a case by case basis.

are they rmaing 3080 tis?

Uh no, would have to be a recognized problem first at least.

Isn't that what this thread is about?

Recognized by EVGA, not members on the forum acting like they are part of EVGA's engineering team.

looniam

talon951
Yea if my other machine with the 2x8pin Zotac running the KP XOC bios hasn't caught fire, pretty sure this is a non-issue. Lol

catching fire is something like diablotek PSUs. i have pushed 550 watts in a kepler titan (8x6) no problem.
 
unless your case temps hit 60c each 12v pin can give you 11 amps*