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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/12 20:01:56 (permalink)

My third 8 pin pulls about half the power as the rest of them stress testing, im still hitting 400w so it doesn't really matter to me

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/12 21:42:51 (permalink)
Was just playing games with friends for a few hours and things are looking good here  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/12 23:52:57 (permalink)
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Was just playing games with friends for a few hours and things are looking good here  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯




You have the same disproportionate PCIe3. Things are looking the same. 

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 00:05:25 (permalink)
Do the PCIE plugs power specific VRMs? Or do they all get tied together after the shunts?

If they power specific VRMs, then being unbalanced might be a "feature" more than an issue. If one plug powers an extra stage then the other plug, then the difference in power might just be an extra power stage being powered by that plug. This might make sense with the third plug too as it might just be powering the extra VRMs that aren't in the XC3 card?
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 00:29:45 (permalink)
My original 3090 FTW3 Ultra was RMA'd due to PCI slot >75w power draw and <420w total limits.  EVGA replaced it with a "fixed" version and now I can hit upper 400w limits and 15K port royals.  Power draw on the three connectors are similar to my 3090 KP.  I get my 3080ti next week and I'll check my power draws, but I don't expect the 3080ti to beat my 3090s. I don't expect to have balanced power draws across the power connectors.  Many have reported power limits in the mid 450s so supplemental GPU cooling to <20C should reveal boost limits.  For everyday gaming, it seems good, but time will tell.
 
Jacob said the 3080ti may not have an "XOC" bios.  The "XOC" bios EVGA provides has power limits, unlike Vince's KP or unauthorized 3rd party options.  As for the power draw on the connectors, I didn't expect EVGA to re-design an entire new board for the 3080ti.  It would make sense that it would be a re-used 3090 board without the memory modules on the back.  Simpler manufacturing and can turn around products quicker based on the nVidia design.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 00:46:59 (permalink)
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My original 3090 FTW3 Ultra was RMA'd due to PCI slot >75w power draw and <420w total limits.  EVGA replaced it with a "fixed" version and now I can hit upper 400w limits and 15K port royals.  Power draw on the three connectors are similar to my 3090 KP.  I get my 3080ti next week and I'll check my power draws, but I don't expect the 3080ti to beat my 3090s. I don't expect to have balanced power draws across the power connectors.  Many have reported power limits in the mid 450s so supplemental GPU cooling to <20C should reveal boost limits.  For everyday gaming, it seems good, but time will tell.
 
Jacob said the 3080ti may not have an "XOC" bios.  The "XOC" bios EVGA provides has power limits, unlike Vince's KP or unauthorized 3rd party options.  As for the power draw on the connectors, I didn't expect EVGA to re-design an entire new board for the 3080ti.  It would make sense that it would be a re-used 3090 board without the memory modules on the back.  Simpler manufacturing and can turn around products quicker based on the nVidia design.


well the 3080ti and the 3090 ftw seem to be using two different voltage controllers 
 
https://imgur.com/lafOjsY
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 01:18:22 (permalink)
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well the 3080ti and the 3090 ftw seem to be using two different voltage controllers 
 
https://imgur.com/lafOjsY
https://imgur.com/Tt03jUK



I'll do some benching when I get the card next week.  My three builds are very similar except for memory speeds and my 3080ti will be using a i9-10850 CPU.  If it performs relatively close to a stock EVGA 3090FTW3, is there a problem with a different voltage controller that exhibits similar current limiting across the 3 connectors?
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 03:34:16 (permalink)
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well the 3080ti and the 3090 ftw seem to be using two different voltage controllers 
 
https://imgur.com/lafOjsY
https://imgur.com/Tt03jUK



I'll do some benching when I get the card next week.  My three builds are very similar except for memory speeds and my 3080ti will be using a i9-10850 CPU.  If it performs relatively close to a stock EVGA 3090FTW3, is there a problem with a different voltage controller that exhibits similar current limiting across the 3 connectors?
 
I try to be a little more realistic in expectations with consumer products.  I haven't found the holy grail(perfect) product, yet, and I'm OCD/AR.  




 
well the 3080ti seems to be using a better voltage controller NCP8161 with a switching frequency of 250 kHz to 1.2 MHz Switching Frequency (8 Phase)
 
while the 3090 has the up9511r which is purely analogue and has a switching frequency range of 200- 600 khz (8 phases ) , it being analogue means that it doesnt get input from the GPU and its functioning is factory determined ,hence is kind of a crap voltage controller (as suggested by buildzoid on his pcb analysis ) and its fucntioning cant be changed via BIO update, since once again ANALOGUE, the up9512 is the standard one has a digital input and used on founders and some asus cards  ,i cant seem to find if the NCP8161 is analogue or digital ,but it does seem to be better than the up9511r 
 
UP9511 data sheet : https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/1347327/uPISemiconductor/uP9511/1
OCP816 datasheet https://www.onsemi.com/products/power-management/dc-dc-controllers-converters-regulators/controllers/ncp81610
 
depending on if the NCP8161 is analogue or digital, its functioning could be altered via bios update ,so it could fix the issue at hand 
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 04:45:15 (permalink)
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Try tying all of the inputs together onto one bus and put 450 watts through your multimeter.  Tell me the results.
again your just showing your . . . lack of knowledge, uniformed opinion, ignorance (? pick one)

Ha! I am not even going to waste my time. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Burden voltage. Even with 5 multimeters in parallel, you will have problems with burden voltage putting your card under ATX spec. That's why I said you will either burn up your meter(s) or potentially damage your video card. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you realized that you would need more than one multimeter, but it isn't clear that you did. I was baiting you to describe how you would propose to do something 'so simple', but you didn't take the bait. It isn't so simple. ;)
Your lack of information or details shows your level of knowledge and confidence on the subject. You should go argue something else somewhere else. The ability to hand-feed this supporting information to you indicates that you aren't the expert you claim to be. I have been baiting you, and your responses inspire zero confidence.
no it is telling YOU what YOU see. it is telling ME from my decades of experience that YOU are WRONG.

Is the card crashing? Is the perfcap reason vrel or therm? No. So, it's power limited (as it says), not silicon or temperature limited. You are wrong.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 04:50:57 (permalink)
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depending on if the NCP8161 is analogue or digital, its functioning could be altered via bios update ,so it could fix the issue at hand 



If the 3080ti has no "issues" keeping up with a 3090, it's all good.  Instead of getting too caught up with a gimped GA102 and a production board design EVGA will probably not invest a lot of effort, I would rather see a full GA102 A6000 equivalent RTX/Titan card with 24GB higher speed ram.  <7nm die would be the added gravy.  Getting rid of the current limits on the connectors is still restricted by silicon grade and cooling.  Similar to cars, you don't just focus on engine peak HP.  
 
My only elevated concern is the cooling results in the limited reviews.  EVGA 3080ti GPU temps on the surface, appears to be running higher, relative to other 3080ti cards and the 3090.  I never run stock fan curves and all my cases have supplemental fans.  I want to avoid the hybrid kit for this card, but we'll see how it works out. 
 
I don't want to deminish the observed "issues", but is it really a deal breaker for people?  The card will sell for more than what Elite members paid, but try getting another brand card.  The issue of getting an optimally made product is relative since the sum of all the "best" parts still has deminishing returns.  If there's a major issue with the 3080ti FTW3 and enough people complain, I believe EVGA will respond like they did with the early 3090 FTW3 boards like mine.  My bench scores are higher, but in-game results are minimally improved.  The 3080ti was just released so we'll just need to be patient and watch how things goes.  Enoy the card while you have it, it costs more than my first computer, TRS-80.
 

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 06:29:41 (permalink)
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Was just playing games with friends for a few hours and things are looking good here  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯




Do you have CP2077 to test?  I've been wondering if my older system that I'm using for this card is somehow having an effect too.  Wondering if sometimes a small bottleneck can reduce GPU usage but not cause it to fall off of the power limit flag.
 
Thing is, some games/benchmarks push the power draw higher than others while always showing power as the limit.  So it depends on what you were playing from your screenshot.
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 06:34:50 (permalink)
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Was just playing games with friends for a few hours and things are looking good here  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯




Do you have CP2077 to test?  I've been wondering if my older system that I'm using for this card is somehow having an effect too.  Wondering if sometimes a small bottleneck can reduce GPU usage but not cause it to fall off of the power limit flag.
 
Thing is, some games/benchmarks push the power draw higher than others while always showing power as the limit.  So it depends on what you were playing from your screenshot.
 


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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 07:01:35 (permalink)
I did a little more testing with CP this morning.  Weirdly I was seeing higher power at the end of an hour or so of playing last night so decided to test again.  Maximum after playing for almost an hour last night was 437w.  It was peaking around 420w this morning in the same place in the map that I previously tested.  Moving the PL slider from 100% to 112% gained about 25w both according to the reported card power and my UPS.  It would gain about 30mhz effective core clock too.  Seems like it pulls a bit more power in some areas of the map than others.  So really more like 25-30w short at most.  Getting down in to the noise there for sure.  
 
That's a little convoluted, but basically I saw a higher peak last night and confirmed it seems a bit higher this morning.  I did DDU my system yesterday since the first time I tested CP.  I doubt that did anything, but also can't explain the slight increase in power usage.
 
Feeling more and more like a non-issue.  I noticed in some of the reviews of the MSI Supreme X 3080ti that it had lopsided power draw too.  Only the Asus appears to be better.
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 10:12:38 (permalink)
I haven't played CP2077 in awhile so I too hopped in for about an hour.  Looked and ran great and the experience was very enjoyable, which I am fairly certain is the point of having and using these cards.  I was messing around with various overclocks on the memory/core and the voltage slider for fun too
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 11:56:56 (permalink)
I must say Cp2077 is the best stress test for these new cards.  benchmarks and warzone run just fine +100 / +1000 mem but CP2077 crashed a few times and hard locked my pc with artifacts. +60 and +900 are stable now. 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:25:05 (permalink)
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its ridiculous to depend on software readings n00b, 450 watts is UP TO 450 watts. there is no guarantee that the card/chip will USE/NEED that, n00b.

In this case, the card would use all 450 watts if it wasn't power limited by unbalanced inputs. All of these cards are power limited. And this card is triggering the power limit before it should.
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:32:33 (permalink)
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its ridiculous to depend on software readings n00b, 450 watts is UP TO 450 watts. there is no guarantee that the card/chip will USE/NEED that, n00b.

In this case, the card would use all 450 watts if it wasn't power limited by unbalanced inputs. All of these cards are power limited. And this card is triggering the power limit before it should.
Am I repeating myself?

yes. you are and ignoring how driver can affect the pl.
 
no they shouldn't but do. this is what i have learned since kepler 2.0. (gtx770). 
just to make sure. yes there is a "problem" for some cards( evga SKU) but your insisting to know the cause the the problem (which is wrong) will not help address the real issue.
 
i will (at this time) insist the issue is the chips. not evga engineering.  AGAIN I KNOW IF A CHIP CAN NOT NEED/USE THAT MUCH POWER - IT WOUNT USE THAT MUCH!!!!!
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:40:10 (permalink)
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i will (at this time) insist the issue is the chips. not evga engineering.  AGAIN I KNOW IF A CHIP CAN NOT NEED/USE THAT MUCH POWER - IT WOUNT!!!!!

These ones will. The only reason it isn't is because it is up against the power limit. That's why it says the perf cap reason is power limit. It doesn't get much more simple.

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:46:45 (permalink)
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i will (at this time) insist the issue is the chips. not evga engineering.  AGAIN I KNOW IF A CHIP CAN NOT NEED/USE THAT MUCH POWER - IT WOUNT!!!!!

These ones will. The only reason it isn't is because it is up against the power limit. That's why it says the perf cap reason is power limit. It doesn't get much more simple.
listen to me. 
gpu-z reports what the driver tells it to  those can and will be false' as per unwinder' gpu-z devolpers. go on  (oopsie i mean TechgPowerUp) forums ans ask. he lives there.
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:49:02 (permalink)
Can someone please use Furmark (0x or 2x MSAA 2560x1920 stress test plus mild OC, max power) and record the average power in HWiNFO (start test, then reset logging, let it run a bit).  This is really only the way to see if the card is achiving it's bios power limits.  Here's my 3080 FTW3 Hybrid, rad fans on a powered hub.  445w average.  In GPU-Z I've seen 485w peaks and I've got a good 3rd connector power balance.
 

 
 
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:52:48 (permalink)
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i will (at this time) insist the issue is the chips. not evga engineering.  AGAIN I KNOW IF A CHIP CAN NOT NEED/USE THAT MUCH POWER - IT WOUNT!!!!!

These ones will. The only reason it isn't is because it is up against the power limit. That's why it says the perf cap reason is power limit. It doesn't get much more simple.
listen to me. 
gpu-z reports what the driver tells it to  those can and will be false' as per unwinder' gpu-z devolpers. go on 3dguru forumns ans ask. he lives there.
 
i KNOW wft i'm talking about.

I don't think you do.
The driver tells you why the card isn't boosting higher, and that is the reason.

Find a load where it isn't power limited. Then lower the power limit until the pwr perf cap reason appears. Watch the clock drop. Why did the clock drop? Because you hit the power limit. It is that simple.

The card is telling you everything you need to know.



Explain how this "power balance" is normal
PCI-E Slot: 47 out of 68 watts
PCI-E #1: 135 out of 150 watts
PCI-E #2: 154 out of 150 watts
PCI-E #3: 67 out of 150 watts

154 out of 150 watts? Yeah, look normal to you? It couldn't possibly be why the card's boost limit is "pwr", could it?
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:57:02 (permalink)
Why are people so worried about power balancing... I've had 3 30-series cards, none of them ran "equal" on the 3 power plugs at any point, and all of them are still functioning perfectly.  Even the first 3090 had the supposed "power balancing" issue that resulted it in to being able to hit 500W on the "xoc" BIOS, but that was it's only 'problem', unsure if the new owner put the 'fix' they put out in to place and if so how that worked out.
 
It has a 3 year warranty which you can extend by paying a little extra to insure you get an equivalent replacement down the line once newer series are out, unless you're going for high overclocking etc, stop worrying about it, plug it in & use the darn thing.  Sheesh.

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 18:59:52 (permalink)
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Why are people so worried about power balancing...

Because it isn't working properly, reduces performance, and is absolutely embarrassing for a new product 8 months after the previous products had the same problem.

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 19:04:02 (permalink)
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 19:37:57 (permalink)
About the 3080 Ti. Excuse my ignorance but isn't that card rated as a 350W graphics card?

Requirements

  • Minimum of a 750 Watt power supply.
  • Three available 8-pin or 6+2pin PCIe power dongles
  • Total Power Draw : 350 Watts
 
What Am I missing?

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 19:41:44 (permalink)
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About the 3080 Ti. Excuse my ignorance but isn't that card rated as a 350W graphics card?

Requirements

  • Minimum of a 750 Watt power supply.
  • Three available 8-pin or 6+2pin PCIe power dongles
  • Total Power Draw : 350 Watts
 
What Am I missing?


It's interesting that the BIOS has a 450 watt power limit, huh?
 
Maybe they chose a low wattage in their specs to protect themselves from this known problem?
 

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1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
Board power limit
Target: 400.0 W
Limit: 450.0 W
Adj. Range: -75%, +12%
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Rated: 83.0C
Max: 91.0C
Memory Support
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Boost Clock: 1800 MHz

post edited by ty_ger07 - 2021/06/13 19:47:19

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 20:03:17 (permalink)
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tyranus7
About the 3080 Ti. Excuse my ignorance but isn't that card rated as a 350W graphics card?

Requirements

  • Minimum of a 750 Watt power supply.
  • Three available 8-pin or 6+2pin PCIe power dongles
  • Total Power Draw : 350 Watts
 
What Am I missing?


It's interesting that the BIOS has a 450 watt power limit, huh?
 
Maybe they chose a low wattage in their specs to protect themselves from this known problem?
 

GPU Device Id: 0x10DE 0x2208
Version: 94.02.71.00.AF
PG132 SKU 18 VGA BIOS
Copyright (C) 1996-2021 NVIDIA Corp.
GPU Board
Connectors
1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
Board power limit
Target: 400.0 W
Limit: 450.0 W
Adj. Range: -75%, +12%
Thermal Limits
Rated: 83.0C
Max: 91.0C
Memory Support
GDDR6X, Micron
Boost Clock: 1800 MHz





Oh I get it now. You have a point there. I'd also like to be able to achieve the maximum power for my GPU if I had one, lol
 
Note aside, I think the enthusiast tech world is the only place where people get mad because their hardware isn't exceeding the power specs enough lol. Usually if your TV is rated at 100W and is sucking 200W out of the wall, that TV maker would get sued lol

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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 20:08:59 (permalink)
tyranus7
About the 3080 Ti. Excuse my ignorance but isn't that card rated as a 350W graphics card?

Requirements

  • Minimum of a 750 Watt power supply.
  • Three available 8-pin or 6+2pin PCIe power dongles
  • Total Power Draw : 350 Watts
 
What Am I missing?





 
(not to exceed 450w, your mileage may vary)
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/06/13 20:11:13
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/13 20:12:43 (permalink)
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About the 3080 Ti. Excuse my ignorance but isn't that card rated as a 350W graphics card?

Requirements

  • Minimum of a 750 Watt power supply.
  • Three available 8-pin or 6+2pin PCIe power dongles
  • Total Power Draw : 350 Watts
 
What Am I missing?


It's interesting that the BIOS has a 450 watt power limit, huh?
 
Maybe they chose a low wattage in their specs to protect themselves from this known problem?
 

GPU Device Id: 0x10DE 0x2208
Version: 94.02.71.00.AF
PG132 SKU 18 VGA BIOS
Copyright (C) 1996-2021 NVIDIA Corp.
GPU Board
Connectors
1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
Board power limit
Target: 400.0 W
Limit: 450.0 W
Adj. Range: -75%, +12%
Thermal Limits
Rated: 83.0C
Max: 91.0C
Memory Support
GDDR6X, Micron
Boost Clock: 1800 MHz





Oh I get it now. You have a point there. I'd also like to be able to achieve the maximum power for my GPU if I had one, lol
 
Note aside, I think the enthusiast tech world is the only place where people get mad because their hardware isn't exceeding the power specs enough lol. Usually if your TV is rated at 100W and is sucking 200W out of the wall, that TV maker would get sued lol


I don't see the issue with the FTW3. I just set the world record with my buddies ftw3 hybrid for the 3080ti. 2130MHz @ 1V. Never saw the power limit. I think with a bit more tweaking and a clean driver install I could have broke 15000 in Port Royal. My XC3 Ultra on the other hand is super power limited. It's garbage. I'll be going ftw3 when I can. I don't even think I got much over 13k in my XC3 Ultra.

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Why are people so worried about power balancing...

Because it isn't working properly, reduces performance, and is absolutely embarrassing for a new product 8 months after the previous products had the same problem.


How is it hurting performance exactly? Again. World record so far for the 3080Ti. Not seeing how things are an issue. Lower the voltage and overclock the **** out of it. Enjoy.
post edited by FunktasticLucky - 2021/06/13 20:49:39
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Re: People that got their 3080ti,Need Data for Powerdraw Between 3 Power connectors(IMPORT 2021/06/14 04:34:16 (permalink)
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looniam

i KNOW wft i'm talking about.

I don't think you do.
The driver tells you why the card isn't boosting higher, and that is the reason.

Find a load where it isn't power limited. Then lower the power limit until the pwr perf cap reason appears. Watch the clock drop. Why did the clock drop? Because you hit the power limit. It is that simple.

The card is telling you everything you need to know.



Explain how this "power balance" is normal
PCI-E Slot: 47 out of 68 watts
PCI-E #1: 135 out of 150 watts
PCI-E #2: 154 out of 150 watts
PCI-E #3: 67 out of 150 watts

154 out of 150 watts? Yeah, look normal to you? It couldn't possibly be why the card's boost limit is "pwr", could it?

yeah, you don't know.
i'm very sure by now that you haven't a clue how any of this works. in the meantime you're just mudding the waters for people that could use a fix. 
 
read the posts of folks saying the don't see any issue bud. that is telling but not in you argument's favor . . .
post edited by Sajin - 2021/06/14 10:00:11

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