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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 03:50:53 (permalink)
It may just be a choke point for the water, but I will see what I can pull off.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 04:06:25 (permalink)
If anyone can do this you can Nate!! You got the tools and the know how. That three-quarters of the battle. ;)
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 04:32:49 (permalink)
Hardwarecanucks removed heatsink during the review. Email them, maybe they have some pics

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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 07:28:13 (permalink)
I have all the pics I need, just not a board to see how I can squeeze stuff through "the hot gates" by the 1st pci-e slot
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 12:25:46 (permalink)
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Nate,
  I was looking at the lever and put my old 295 in for you camera's battery died but it needs to move about 1/8th inch.

I wasn't referring to how far you bend the tab to insert a graphics card, I meant how far you could bend it away, in the opposite if its intended direction so I can drop the block straight down.
 
In any case it seems that the new board will have the same layout:
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1146167
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 15:54:30 (permalink)
Incase you haven't seen yet
 
http://www.evga.com/articles/00643/
 
 
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/05 19:42:14 (permalink)
Yup.  Board looks the same to me.  Blocks should be compatible. 
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 00:05:06 (permalink)
nateman_doo

Yup.  Board looks the same to me.  Blocks should be compatible. 

 
According to the picture they're identical which works out great, considering the Z68 has almost nothing to offer over the P67, users could easily save money and grab a P67. But either way your block will work great with both boards. That's if you have some master plan how to work through those tight spots on the board.
 
I PMed jacob just to make sure, and yes they're identical.
post edited by ESOOGYERG - 2011/08/06 00:24:51
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 06:37:51 (permalink)
Figure on this much: Copper > Aluminium
No matter what solution I come up with, it will still be better then the factory solution.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 13:32:55 (permalink)
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Figure on this much: Copper > Aluminium
No matter what solution I come up with, it will still be better then the factory solution.

 
Have you considered doing something like this
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_241_589&products_id=30442
 
You could do something similar but in a single block config(or split) And this eliminates any possible issues for 3 way SLI users, only downside is you don't regain the top x1 slot.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 13:52:07 (permalink)
The difference is the Gigabyte motherboard, doesn't have some components in the gap that make the choke point that EVGA's board does.  I have to pull every trick in the book I can to get water to that chip. 

 
 
See the highlighted annoyances:

 
 
post edited by nateman_doo - 2011/08/06 13:54:25

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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 14:06:51 (permalink)
At first glance I though the fluid didn't flow to the lower chip in that block, but it appears it does.
Hopefully you figure something out
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 14:35:23 (permalink)
It defiantly won't be easy, and not even sure if it can be done, but I will do my best and come up with a solution.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 15:09:50 (permalink)
nateman_doo

It defiantly won't be easy, and not even sure if it can be done, but I will do my best and come up with a solution.

 
If it comes down to it, you could just stop the fluid at the top chipset and setup the lower portion to be more like a heatsink/heat tranfser. Would be nice to have the water flow that way, but it looks like such a pain to make that happen. You could most likely squeeze the water through but you run back into the issue of the barb in the way of the cards.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 15:20:52 (permalink)
You know nateman_doo, it makes more sense if you could make the CPU and chipset waterblock as all-in-one piece rather than a separate block, IMO.
 
Why? P67 and Z68 are stuck in the same TDP category, both dissipating less than 6.1W of heat even if all ports were used (all SATA, USB, ethernet, audio, PCIe 1.1, etc).  Remember, it is a southbridge and they have traditionally been low-wattage parts anyway.
 
Here's what six Watts of heat is capable, of using Hooke's Law:  It will take 90-minutes to boil 100ml of water, versus 2.5 minutes for an overclocked 6-core to around 4GHz (200W).  Trust me, P67/Z68 doesn't need watercooling any more than an Atom CPU does-- but if you have a market where enough people just want a P67/Z68 waterblock, then go make some money Nate!

BTW, the datasheets from both of those links will show you the dimensions of the chipsets and reference retention holes for coolers of the Intel boards.  EVGA and other vendors might have different screw holes, but the chipsets themselves will be the same size.
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For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 18:58:46 (permalink)
The NF200's and Vregs will benefit most from being under water.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/06 23:11:11 (permalink)
nateman_doo

The NF200's and Vregs will benefit most from being under water.

 
So you could easily keep the water up at the nf200 and avoid all the issues of trying to get the water down to the P67 chipset.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/07 06:22:42 (permalink)
The water at the V-regs and NF200 is the easy part. The southbridge is the hard part. I see a solution in my head, but until I get the board, I can't say if I can implement it.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/09 06:21:04 (permalink)
Personally, I'd say just do the V-regs and NF200. If you made it, it's just one more reason for me to go full water. 

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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/09 10:35:55 (permalink)
I will see what I can pull off.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/09 12:04:30 (permalink)
I am interested in one, keep it up, you do amazing work.
 
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/10 18:15:10 (permalink)
Once the prototype is complete, I will start taking orders if anyone is interested.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/10 21:17:41 (permalink)
looking at the way the bottom heat sink looks. seems like you may be able to stick to barbs on the bottom near the the cmos battery.
 
should get around 3/4 of a inch or so between the graphics cards and the board so would guess thats what you have to work with. i think theres some L type barbs that may work. cant remember what website .
 
could also fit the barbs on each corner of the sink.
post edited by draconoth - 2011/08/10 21:25:13

 
 
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/10 21:26:24 (permalink)
have to accommodate large graphics cards though.
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/10 21:33:45 (permalink)
thats why i was saying stick the barbs on the corners or sides you got around 3/4 to work with between the cards and the board so would have to be on the sides. i was thinking one opisit one another on each corner.or one next to the cmos battery, and one near the side mounted pata plug or is that the power plug.

 
 
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/12 18:20:00 (permalink)
Can u draw a picture of what your talking about?
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/13 02:46:49 (permalink)
heres kind of what i was trying to say could use a L shaped barb to get the tubing to go under the cards then again without being able to hold one of those boards in my hands there may not be enough room in any of those spots i have marked

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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/13 14:19:25 (permalink)
How many people are utilizing a TRI-SLI configuration at the moment?
post edited by nateman_doo - 2011/08/13 14:26:15
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/13 18:10:39 (permalink)
i plan to if i get the money they cost though to do it right anyways
 
so maby not me but i have seen a few

 
 
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Re:P67 Full Chipset Waterblock 2011/08/13 18:33:12 (permalink)
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How many people are utilizing a TRI-SLI configuration at the moment?

i have 3x580gtx ín tri-sli

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