LVNeptune
Where exactly did you see vrel and vop? Those relate to voltages and not being able to boost higher due to voltage limit. I don't see it hit in your screenshot. Looks idle all the way across.
 

I took the screenshot too late. I'll have to repeat it.
 
Do these numbers look decent so far?

LVNeptune
I think so. With no tweaking getting 14700 is great. Classified should send you beyond 15,000 for sure.

Alright, I'll keep trying. I wish I knew how to make custom curves and set the right voltages in classified. I'm trying to figure it out.

USMC1419
Oh, and what does "Both NVVDD switches on" mean? I have the LN2/OC/Norm switch, but are these physical switches?
 
What are some max numbers for NVVDD, FB and MS for classified to not exceed? Always stay on load line 1? And keep on OCP to be safe?
 
I tried searching around google and youtube for pointers on how to do this, and didn't find anything :(

There's physical DIP switches.

Try closing all apps except PX1 minimized.  Shutdown all unnecessary services.  Quit bloated tray apps.  Don't run GPUZ or HWINFO.  Just watch frames and key scene transitions as guides in the test.  Fan load on the card affect performance, too.
 
That's a lot better than my FTW3.

1500 memory, 160-165 clock at 20c or less starting temp with sustained 35-38c temps will get you in the low to mid 15's. I'm still trying to figure out the classified toll but as of right now it's lowering my numbers until I play with it more. Flying toaster is right, it's meant for LN2, if you want a good card to play around with a stock cooler get the FTW3 and save $200. Plus you have to listen to Metallica when overclocking or it won't work at all.

USMC1419
 
I'll give that a try. I offloaded the 3x AIO fans to a controller with SATA power. So the only fan the KP has to power is the internal board fan.
 
Here's the run with +150 / +1000, same settings as before.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/55284767
 
Not sure if it'll be reaching 15.4k+, but I haven't really started to tweak it much at all with classified because I don't know how.
 

I get ~ same score at 150, too.  GPU runs around 2170 and peaks at 2190 if I remember.  Getting there...

808sting
 
I get ~ same score at 150, too.  GPU runs around 2170 and peaks at 2190 if I remember.  Getting there...

 
Basically spot on what I'm seeing. 2160-2170 avg. run, same peak I think, and +150. I wonder if tweaking NVVDD and others in classified will help it along more.

LVNeptune

Sajin

USMC1419
Oh, and what does "Both NVVDD switches on" mean? I have the LN2/OC/Norm switch, but are these physical switches?

What are some max numbers for NVVDD, FB and MS for classified to not exceed? Always stay on load line 1? And keep on OCP to be safe?

I tried searching around google and youtube for pointers on how to do this, and didn't find anything :(

Both on will set nvvdd to 1.15v. For the stock aio max would be 1.2 on nvvdd/msvdd & 1.4 on fbvdd.

I thought without any changes it's supposed to already go up to 1.1v anyway. If each DIP does .25mv shouldn't it be 1.75v without changing anything in classified?

Can't you set these in classified instead of the switches?

USMC1419

808sting
 
I get ~ same score at 150, too.  GPU runs around 2170 and peaks at 2190 if I remember.  Getting there...

 
Basically spot on what I'm seeing. 2160-2170 avg. run, same peak I think, and +150. I wonder if tweaking NVVDD and others in classified will help it along more.

LVNeptune

Sajin

USMC1419
Oh, and what does "Both NVVDD switches on" mean? I have the LN2/OC/Norm switch, but are these physical switches?

What are some max numbers for NVVDD, FB and MS for classified to not exceed? Always stay on load line 1? And keep on OCP to be safe?

I tried searching around google and youtube for pointers on how to do this, and didn't find anything :(

Both on will set nvvdd to 1.15v. For the stock aio max would be 1.2 on nvvdd/msvdd & 1.4 on fbvdd.

I thought without any changes it's supposed to already go up to 1.1v anyway. If each DIP does .25mv shouldn't it be 1.75v without changing anything in classified?

Can't you set these in classified instead of the switches?

Yep.

USMC1419
Thank you Sajin.
 
Any more recommendations you have for tweaking? If crashing at say +175 core, do you add more power to NVVDD to try and get it stable?
 
Any changes to loadline? I'm thinking to just keep OCP on, don't want to play with fire for something I don't know.
 
And if its not a power limit in GPUZ but a VREL and VOP, would this mean you need more voltage for the clock speed?

Yeah, add more nvvdd. Leave on level 1 for both. Keeping ocp on might not let you overvolt the card past a certain voltage, so turning them off is recommended so you know the voltage is actually being applied.

VRel = Cards at the end of its voltage boost table, so it lists voltage reliability as the performance cap.
VOp = Cards hitting the max allowed voltage, so lists operating voltage as the performance cap.

Glad you found it helpful.

Are any of you guys adding NVVDD voltage for gaming? I am leaving mine at stock voltage for longevity.

USMC1419

flyingtoaster85
Are any of you guys adding NVVDD voltage for gaming? I am leaving mine at stock voltage for longevity.

I'm planning on stock voltage for gaming and probably +100/+800 for a conservative daily driver.
 
Sajin, I wonder if I'd be up around your mid 15k score with XOC. That way I wouldn't be hitting these limiters. I'm thinking that even though I bump up the NVVDD and MSVDD, I'm still at the mercy of watts as I'm hitting 126-127% TDP and 520 w on LN2 Bios. She's basically starved for power.

No idea, but you'll definitely get a higher score with a uncapped vbios if you're hitting the 520w limit.

Some corrections on how voltage on Nvidia cards actually work. 
 
1. Voltage slider in afterburner/px1 merely permits additional voltage steps on driver v/f curve, it does not increase the actual supplied voltage per curve step by 100mv etc.
 
2. Driver reported voltage via GPU-Z or HWInfo is entirely different from actual voltage being set by voltage controller. Afterburner and PX1 poll the actual VC via i2c so that voltage is closer to accurate. Driver voltage is the voltage the Nvida driver requests based on power draw and driver clockspeed. The second you start touching voltages this value is completely meaningless, since i2c via classified etc overwrites this requested driver voltage. 
 
3. LLC can massively modify the actual voltage on NVDDD at chip. You need to actually probe the rail to observe this; luckily kpe probe-it makes this trivial.
 
4. OCP is not going to limit you, at all, outside of extreme voltages under LN2. The amperages required to trip OCP are in the range of actual electrical shorts, AKA not even close to the 20A or so you are gonna be maxing out on <1.2V. 1.5V when the temp isn't -140 degrees after the grease unknowingly cracks on LN2 though, now that's a different story and that is why you are able to turn it off. Also if you trip OCB it will be a hard card crash, observable as a device cycle in event viewer as opposed to a driver disconnect etc from a normal instability crash. So stop turning off OCP if you aren't benching on sub-ambient on extreme volts, its doing nothing except letting your card die instantly if you ever short. 
 
5. The dip switches are a voltage offset applied on top of  driver requested voltage. So you can simply flip a dip to increase voltage higher than what v/f curve says and therefore move the frequency higher at each point without instability. While direct i2c via classified is a static target voltage, meaning the value you select what you want the end on-chip voltage to be at all times, so the voltage controller will over supply to compensate for droop based on llc, plane loss, etc. 

Chamidorix
Some corrections on how voltage on Nvidia cards actually work. 
 
1. Voltage slider in afterburner/px1 merely permits additional voltage steps on driver v/f curve, it does not increase the actual supplied voltage per curve step by 100mv etc.
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This is great information, thank you for sharing. When seeing Vrel and Vop, will increasing voltages help fix this or changing curves, as long as you are also not simultaneously hitting Pwr limits?
 
I think I've reach the end of the road for the LN2 stock bios, as I'm hitting ~510-520w, and seeing occasional Pwr limit but constantly seeing Vrel and VOP when setting my clocks faster.

I def can not do 1600 on memory