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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 06:39:24 (permalink)
Lower core temps results in lower mem temps on backside chips
Plus lower core temps means less power uses, and more stable clocks
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 11:24:43 (permalink)
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Got my Hydro Copper in!! Swapped from AIO to block, used liquid metal and 12.8w/mk pads. On it's own loop w/360 60mm rad in push + pull. Classified tool used, and on OLD version of 3dmark before anyone asks. 
 
Think I have a nice piece of silicon here! :)
 
3dmark.com - PR - 16,312





Wow! that is crazy good, What was your core max before swap?
 
I got my block in, but not sure I would gain much with it. So debating just keeping it around in case AIO fails. My effective core max is like 2205.




Should be noted he's running 1.16V on the core which is higher than most of us are.

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 13:07:54 (permalink)
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Should be noted he's running 1.16V on the core which is higher than most of us are.


Yup, only mess with the voltage if you know what you are doing, can control the temps, and have a good PSU.

I’m actually really happy hitting those clocks with only 1.16 to the core! Seen people pushing 1.18-1.24 and not able to go above 2235Mhz.

I will post my ‘daily driver’ settings and scores at some point.


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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 13:26:13 (permalink)
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Lower core temps results in lower mem temps on backside chips
Plus lower core temps means less power uses, and more stable clocks



I am just hitting such a hard wall trying to go over 2205 starting at 8C with portable AC blasting through radiator in a very cold room that I do not think the block
will do anything for me. I gained about 100-110 MHZ on my Strix after installing block, but that was hitting 60-70 on the air cooler.

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 14:00:00 (permalink)
The block will drop core temps easily 10c+ irrc, Dabadger has pushed both AIO and HC blocks so he would know better lol, just ask him for numbers before and after with and without extra heatsink on backside of card
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 16:02:58 (permalink)
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The block will drop core temps easily 10c+ irrc, Dabadger has pushed both AIO and HC blocks so he would know better lol, just ask him for numbers before and after with and without extra heatsink on backside of card



I have been following Dabadger's thread, as well as Clovis, Good stuff! I'll be putting my block on I guess.
Just not expecting much.

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 18:54:36 (permalink)
Ppl have been telling me they see over 500w on pr with 520w but I guess I’ve got a dud


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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 19:07:18 (permalink)
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Ppl have been telling me they see over 500w on pr with 520w but I guess I’ve got a dud

You'll need to push voltages in order to see that kind of power draw in a PR run.
 
What's your max OC score using stock out of the box settings (LN2 bios, max power/voltage sliders)?


 
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 20:29:09 (permalink)
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Ppl have been telling me they see over 500w on pr with 520w but I guess I’ve got a dud

You'll need to push voltages in order to see that kind of power draw in a PR run.
 
What's your max OC score using stock out of the box settings (LN2 bios, max power/voltage sliders)?


https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1028918 
This was my best before the update that messed with the scoring. 
ln2, maxed powerlimit and core slider. 
 
Is there a kp hydro copper ln2 bios? Havent seen it on techpower up.
I need to format pc, ill report back tomorrow with my findings.  
 
 
 
 


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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 20:39:30 (permalink)
Wish I could buy 3090 KP and take part in this

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 20:42:12 (permalink)
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Ppl have been telling me they see over 500w on pr with 520w but I guess I’ve got a dud

You'll need to push voltages in order to see that kind of power draw in a PR run.
 
What's your max OC score using stock out of the box settings (LN2 bios, max power/voltage sliders)?


https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1028918 
This was my best before the update that messed with the scoring. 
ln2, maxed powerlimit and core slider. 
 
Is there a kp hydro copper ln2 bios? Havent seen it on techpower up.
I need to format pc, ill report back tomorrow with my findings.  
 
 
 
 


You're breaking 15k with no changes to voltage my man, that's not a dud.
 
No there's only the one set of bios' for the Kingpin cards. Normal, OC, LN2 and XOC.


 
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/17 23:39:42 (permalink)
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Lower core temps results in lower mem temps on backside chips
Plus lower core temps means less power uses, and more stable clocks



I am just hitting such a hard wall trying to go over 2205 starting at 8C with portable AC blasting through radiator in a very cold room that I do not think the block
will do anything for me. I gained about 100-110 MHZ on my Strix after installing block, but that was hitting 60-70 on the air cooler.




The big thing with the block is how much it will lower your other temperatures, thus decreasing PCB heatsoak that effects temperatures even further.  Memory would be running much cooler, VRMs will be about the same (unfortunately, but they don't really run hot to begin with).  The core temp itself for me didn't go down a ton, but I was also dealing with a "base" starting temp in the low 50s for most tests/games, so it can only GO so much lower at that point.
If you're having issues getting over 2205 it sounds like your card is probably one of those voltage-happy ones that will clock pretty well under LN2 but at "stock" voltages, can't OC too great.  I know mine is pretty similar, for average boost clock, I can't consistently get higher than 2205-2220... but I've also "only" went up to 1.14375V NVVDD with a 1.1V MSVDD.  That allowed me to run +165-180, mostly stable, for Port Royal specifically.  The other benchmarks I have to step it down a bit or they crash almost all the time.
 
Ideally I'd like to hit at least 2205 stable enough to use, but meh.
 
I'm gonna try to run Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition tonight/this morning with some OC settings & see if it crashes or not, and if it doesn't, what the power draw is like.  With my Undervolt/OC to 2100MHz @ 1025mV, it was getting up to around 450W draw, without VSync on, so it's definitely a power hungry game... but man is it purdy.
 
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Ppl have been telling me they see over 500w on pr with 520w but I guess I’ve got a dud



I think at stock on Port Royal, and even with a "regular" OC, I'm only seeing around 480-500W.  I have to bump voltages in Classified Tool to get consistently over 500W draw.  Highest I've see was on the card's OLED set to power readout during my personal best score runs & it got as high as 551W, and that's pushing 1.14375V core with the memory at 1.4125V +1400 offset... pretty sure I was hitting power limit at times during that, and prolonged testing with those settings saw the typical PCB heatsoak symptoms of the score going down for seemingly no reason, clocks dropping a bit and whatnot on the core.

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/18 22:45:47 (permalink)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61871730 3DMark is fixed, I repeat, 3DMark is fixed.
 
That's with no classified Tool & Afterburner/HWInfo open in the background.

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/18 23:05:27 (permalink)
Was that 5GHz 5950X all core or just single core?
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61871730 3DMark is fixed, I repeat, 3DMark is fixed.
 
That's with no classified Tool & Afterburner/HWInfo open in the background.
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/18 23:24:29 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61871730 3DMark is fixed, I repeat, 3DMark is fixed.
 
That's with no classified Tool & Afterburner/HWInfo open in the background.


Yeah I scored 15.2k no classified or the usual performance enhancing "tricks". Good stuff!
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61872397


 
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/18 23:27:03 (permalink)
Who has a 3090 to post results? :D
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/18 23:44:17 (permalink)
Just got a 15,757 pulling out all the stops with the classy tool.  New card to me, had to RMA my original KP.  Put the HC block right on the RMA replacement, so no good point of comparison to stock cooling, but is performing a little better than my previous card.  Now if it just wasn't so warm all the time in SoCal.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1045077
 
Should be somewhere in the 70s on single card PR, but drivers haven't been approved yet. 
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 00:20:42 (permalink)
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Was that 5GHz 5950X all core or just single core?
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61871730 3DMark is fixed, I repeat, 3DMark is fixed.
 
That's with no classified Tool & Afterburner/HWInfo open in the background.




CPU was 100% stock for that run, only changes were FCLK to 1900MHz & RAM @ 3800MHz with DOCP timings for the kit (14-15-15) with some of them set manually by me (tRFC is 312 on the runs, I think).
 
Hit a new personal best, good enough for #4 on the 5950X/Single 3090 "leaderboard"/HoF:
 

 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1045048 and that's with the same settings as my previous 15668 run too:
 

post edited by Dabadger84 - 2021/05/19 00:25:16

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 00:59:21 (permalink)
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Just got a 15,757 pulling out all the stops with the classy tool.  New card to me, had to RMA my original KP.  Put the HC block right on the RMA replacement, so no good point of comparison to stock cooling, but is performing a little better than my previous card.  Now if it just wasn't so warm all the time in SoCal.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1045077
 
Should be somewhere in the 70s on single card PR, but drivers haven't been approved yet. 



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Was that 5GHz 5950X all core or just single core?
Dabadger84
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61871730 3DMark is fixed, I repeat, 3DMark is fixed.

That's with no classified Tool & Afterburner/HWInfo open in the background.




CPU was 100% stock for that run, only changes were FCLK to 1900MHz & RAM @ 3800MHz with DOCP timings for the kit (14-15-15) with some of them set manually by me (tRFC is 312 on the runs, I think).
 
Hit a new personal best, good enough for #4 on the 5950X/Single 3090 "leaderboard"/HoF:
 
Spoiler


 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1045048 and that's with the same settings as my previous 15668 run too:
 

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 16:10:11 (permalink)
So here's the difference between running "stock" and using "tools" for those HOF scores.
 
Here's PR after 2hrs of Cyberpunk and Mass Effect (10 min cool down), while using my daily driver settings: Default voltages, no Classy tool, Afterburner curve at 2205 @ 1.068v, memory +1200. 
 
PR 15,751

 
Compared to this run, which required:
Ambient temp in the room lowered to 15c, Classified tool set to 1.16875 NVVD, Afterburner set to 2310 @ 1.1v, mem +1750, right after system start up so before anything warmed up
 
PR 16,312
 
Just wanted to put the performance gains in perspective.
 
It's fun pushing the cards once in a while, and with the KP you're sort of "supposed to" as it's an enthusiast card. Getting high scores is tricky, but you learn about the card and it helps find the "sweet spot" for every day use. 
 
Side note: I'm actually impressed by this waterblock.


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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 16:18:28 (permalink)
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Ambient temp in the room lowered to 15c... 



Y'all making me want to buy a room AC unit or loop chiller...
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 16:52:41 (permalink)
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Ambient temp in the room lowered to 15c... 

Y'all making me want to buy a room AC unit or loop chiller...

 
Lmaoo.. central AC is a Must!
I grew up in New England but live in Cali so I keep it pretty brisk in my house. :)
That's the temp I set on the thermostat (60F), but it was probably a bit warmer than that


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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 17:19:23 (permalink)
Seems like that update really brought some significant improvements. Looks like there are universal increases in scoring for all users, not just a return to normal scoring for those who saw a loss in scores with the previous update.
 
Looking forward to doing some Classified runs with a renewed sense of optimism. I'm already #34 in HOF for 5900x with single 3090. That's on stock voltages with modest offsets, still using the 360mm CLC.
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 18:36:32 (permalink)
Guess I should aim for 5800x and single 3090 HOF 😆
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 20:33:10 (permalink)
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Seems like that update really brought some significant improvements. Looks like there are universal increases in scoring for all users, not just a return to normal scoring for those who saw a loss in scores with the previous update.
 
Looking forward to doing some Classified runs with a renewed sense of optimism. I'm already #34 in HOF for 5900x with single 3090. That's on stock voltages with modest offsets, still using the 360mm CLC.


My runs were with an old 3dmark, but yes I’ve seen some folks getting an extra ~100pts with the latest version. Worth a shot! I’ll give it a go this weekend with the new update


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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 20:57:58 (permalink)
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Ambient temp in the room lowered to 15c... 

Y'all making me want to buy a room AC unit or loop chiller...

 
Lmaoo.. central AC is a Must!
I grew up in New England but live in Cali so I keep it pretty brisk in my house. :)
That's the temp I set on the thermostat (60F), but it was probably a bit warmer than that


I'm in SoCal, but my house was built in the 70s, so the central air distribution ain't great, the house thermally leaks like a sieve, and I have two other PCs in the room where I have my main rig.  So I'm lucky to get ambient below 75-80F.  Having the AC try to keep up is a losing battle, electric bill is already sky high as it is...
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 21:05:57 (permalink)
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Ambient temp in the room lowered to 15c... 

Y'all making me want to buy a room AC unit or loop chiller...

 
Lmaoo.. central AC is a Must!
I grew up in New England but live in Cali so I keep it pretty brisk in my house. :)
That's the temp I set on the thermostat (60F), but it was probably a bit warmer than that


I'm in SoCal, but my house was built in the 70s, so the central air distribution ain't great, the house thermally leaks like a sieve, and I have two other PCs in the room where I have my main rig.  So I'm lucky to get ambient below 75-80F.  Having the AC try to keep up is a losing battle, electric bill is already sky high as it is...




Have you looked into the programs they have for insulating for free or reduced cost or cost sharing for replacing inefficient systems?

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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/19 21:14:54 (permalink)
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Ambient temp in the room lowered to 15c... 

Y'all making me want to buy a room AC unit or loop chiller...

 
Lmaoo.. central AC is a Must!
I grew up in New England but live in Cali so I keep it pretty brisk in my house. :)
That's the temp I set on the thermostat (60F), but it was probably a bit warmer than that


I'm in SoCal, but my house was built in the 70s, so the central air distribution ain't great, the house thermally leaks like a sieve, and I have two other PCs in the room where I have my main rig.  So I'm lucky to get ambient below 75-80F.  Having the AC try to keep up is a losing battle, electric bill is already sky high as it is...




Have you looked into the programs they have for insulating for free or reduced cost or cost sharing for replacing inefficient systems?


My AC system itself is new and relatively efficient.  Ducting is old and have some weird architectural features of 10 doors enclosing an interior patio.  Haven't seen any programs from my energy providers that would fix all that for free/low costs, but would be work another look.  Next upgrade is likely solar.
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/20 18:29:54 (permalink)
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Re: Okay lets hear it Highest Port Royal 3090 Kingpin Scores! 2021/05/20 18:36:45 (permalink)
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looks like you have plenty of thermal headroom for higher scores on gpu, are you on Custom loop or AIO?
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