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2021/01/12 10:09:20 (permalink)
As announced by Nvidia, here:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/
 
So it's launching in late February, only on the 3000 series GPUs
They specifically mention Intel 11th gen and "select" 10th gen CPUs, and only a generic statement that they are "working with AMD". Hopefully it will come for Ryzen systems as well, and not like AMD did, on 5000 series only. 
 
It would seem Motherboard bios update is required (already got that) but also video card bios update as well. Hopefully EVGA will supply that :)
 
Free performance boost is always welcomed.
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 10:45:17 (permalink)
    Don't forget that the motherboard needs to support the resizable BAR, of which only the Z490 has in EVGA's lineup.
     
    When I asked about their flagship X299 line I got a boilerplate response with the Z490 as the only confirmed motherboard.
    "We have released a BIOS update for our Z490 based motherboards however I cannot guarantee that we will release an update for the X299 series for the function. I apologize for any inconvenience."
     
    Even though support for BAR has been a part of Intel's lineup for a long time:
    "It gets more interesting—Intel processors have been supporting this feature since the company's 4th Gen Core "Haswell," which introduced it with its 20-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 root-complex. This means that every Intel processor dating back to 2014 can technically support Resizable-BAR, and it's just a matter of motherboard vendors releasing UEFI firmware updates for their products (i.e. Intel 8-series chipsets and later). AMD extensively advertises SAM as adding a 1-2% performance boost to Radeon RX 6800 series graphics cards. Since this is a PCI-SIG feature, NVIDIA plans to add support for it on some of its GPUs, too. Meanwhile, in addition to AMD 500-series chipsets, even certain Intel 400-series chipset motherboards started receiving Resizable BAR support through firmware updates."
     
    https://www.techpowerup.com/275565/amd-ryzen-3000-and-older-zen-chips-dont-support-sam-due-to-hardware-limitation-intel-chips-since-haswell-support-it

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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 11:21:24 (permalink)
    It seems there is a lot conflicting information about this.
    On one hand there is the hardware limitation thing on AMD side mentioned on tecpowerup . On another, there are screenshots floating around on the feature working on 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen systems on motherboards from Asus and MSI.
    I also recall an article somewhere with a board integrator saying that it is in fact possible, can't recall where.

    My particular board (Asus x570 tuf) already has the feature integrated and functional for AMD cards. I just hope it will work with Ryzen 3000.

    Right now, considering the said conflicting information, I start to wonder if it's not in fact artificial limitations imposed by marketing teams, in order to further differentiate product stacks.

    I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 13:02:45 (permalink)
    we all gonna be forced to switch to 11 gen sadly, my 9900k will probably dont get support
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 13:06:55 (permalink)
    pat182
    we all gonna be forced to switch to 11 gen sadly, my 9900k will probably dont get support


    10th gen bios has already been updated, so you probably assuming wrong. 11th gen will have better support, for sure, but multiple motherboard manufacturers already enabled in on their z490 boards, so now it requires Nvidia to send out a new bios and new drivers.

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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 13:10:38 (permalink)
    Already updated my Z490 Extreme BIOS from Asus with both ReBar support and 11th gen. But my 10900K will work fine with ReBar support once EVGA drops the vBIOS update for my 3090 KPE. Getting DLSS for Warzone and ReBar support "soon" is awesome. Nvidia is on fire lately with features and support. 

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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 14:24:21 (permalink)
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    we all gonna be forced to switch to 11 gen sadly, my 9900k will probably dont get support


    10th gen bios has already been updated, so you probably assuming wrong. 11th gen will have better support, for sure, but multiple motherboard manufacturers already enabled in on their z490 boards, so now it requires Nvidia to send out a new bios and new drivers.
    if he has a 9900K then he’s likely screwed. NVIDIA was very clear only 10th and 1th gen support from Intel. He’s got 9th gen so he’ll have to upgrade.
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 16:11:48 (permalink)
    A month ago I upgraded my Asus Z490 motherboard to firmware 1601 beta that supports Resizable Bar.
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 18:17:14 (permalink)
    pat182
    we all gonna be forced to switch to 11 gen sadly, my 9900k will probably dont get support




    i wouldnt worry about it to much. it probably wont give you much more performance. i wouldn't sell a 9900k setup over 1 or 2% more performance in some applications. even amd has said there infinity cache only gives an extra 1-3% in most scenarios. gamersnexus has tested this if im not mistaken and only got 1fps more in some games but it didnt matter because 1fps is within margin of error. with a solid overclock you would gain much more 
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 19:14:58 (permalink)
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    we all gonna be forced to switch to 11 gen sadly, my 9900k will probably dont get support




    i wouldnt worry about it to much. it probably wont give you much more performance. i wouldn't sell a 9900k setup over 1 or 2% more performance in some applications. even amd has said there infinity cache only gives an extra 1-3% in most scenarios. gamersnexus has tested this if im not mistaken and only got 1fps more in some games but it didnt matter because 1fps is within margin of error. with a solid overclock you would gain much more 


    exactly!

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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/12 19:35:01 (permalink)
    Will they add support for workstation chipsets like the C621 and WRX80?
     
     
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/13 10:43:52 (permalink)
    How much of an improvement can we expect with this? 3% on average?
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/13 12:27:10 (permalink)
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    we all gonna be forced to switch to 11 gen sadly, my 9900k will probably dont get support




    i wouldnt worry about it to much. it probably wont give you much more performance. i wouldn't sell a 9900k setup over 1 or 2% more performance in some applications. even amd has said there infinity cache only gives an extra 1-3% in most scenarios. gamersnexus has tested this if im not mistaken and only got 1fps more in some games but it didnt matter because 1fps is within margin of error. with a solid overclock you would gain much more 


    I totally agree. Also, you got to wait for that feature to come into place and see exactly how it performs, you might not see a whole lot of gains and you'd be surprise how many things can get broken along the way before it gets to full maturity.
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/18 00:44:11 (permalink)
    good
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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/18 00:51:57 (permalink)
    padibuz
    It would seem Motherboard bios update is required (already got that) but also video card bios update as well. Hopefully EVGA will supply that :)
     Free performance boost is always welcomed.



    From free performance boost to bricking card and mobo with questionable RMA results its only one power cut or other accident away. I would be very very VERY cautious esp after what I went through with my first 3080. What are you playing anyway that you need further boost?

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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/18 00:52:57 (permalink)
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    How much of an improvement can we expect with this? 3% on average?



    Absolutely not worth the trouble and the risk of bricking very expensive components.

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    Re: Nvidia Resizable BAR is coming in late February 2021/01/22 05:42:48 (permalink)
     is the Resizable BAR really effective?
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