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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/03 21:45:41
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This has more fixes than just BF BC2. I don't have specifics but BF BC2 is just one of the fixes it addresses. I think this is why Nvidia wants to push a WHQL driver, its a substantial update.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/03 22:38:46
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Latest update from ManuelG is ETA around 13 Sept. So, 10 more days for QA testing.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 00:12:48
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Might help for Medal of Honor too. I know it's not out yet, but it uses the same engine as BC2, so it may make a difference. Have to wait and see.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 01:48:13
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Might help for Medal of Honor too. I know it's not out yet, but it uses the same engine as BC2, so it may make a difference. Have to wait and see.
yeah that's what i have been wondering. . . Its frostbite II engine so its going to have the same problem. . I didn't have my 480 when the beta was out, anyone have stutter/low utilization in MoH with their 4xx??
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 05:40:01
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Thats what people get for going sli.Even though the scaling has been great for both ati and nvidia.You will always be better off buying a single faster gpu and not have to deal with that kind of crap and thats both for ati and nvidia.Just look at the 6000 series if its released with the performance thats been seen in the past few days people with 5000 series are going to be better off buying a 6000 series than go crossfire.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 06:41:34
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Might help for Medal of Honor too. I know it's not out yet, but it uses the same engine as BC2, so it may make a difference. Have to wait and see.
Yes. It does and it will fix it.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 07:04:15
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Thats what people get for going sli.Even though the scaling has been great for both ati and nvidia.You will always be better off buying a single faster gpu and not have to deal with that kind of crap and thats both for ati and nvidia.Just look at the 6000 series if its released with the performance thats been seen in the past few days people with 5000 series are going to be better off buying a 6000 series than go crossfire.
Actually........The SLI users arent having any stuttering issues with BC2. Its the single card users.....lol. My machine with 3-way SLI runs any game smooth as butter. I could care less about a new driver honestly Crysis maxed out at 1920x1080 at 70-80+ fps........I'll take SLI anyday.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 07:08:49
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Thanks for the updates DNOTTIS, you need a blue ribbon.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 07:08:55
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cnriskfm
Thats what people get for going sli.Even though the scaling has been great for both ati and nvidia.You will always be better off buying a single faster gpu and not have to deal with that kind of crap and thats both for ati and nvidia.Just look at the 6000 series if its released with the performance thats been seen in the past few days people with 5000 series are going to be better off buying a 6000 series than go crossfire.
Actually........The SLI users arent having any stuttering issues with BC2. Its the single card users.....lol. My machine with 3-way SLI runs any game smooth as butter. I could care less about a new driver honestly Crysis maxed out at 1920x1080 at 70-80+ fps........I'll take SLI anyday.
Yeah no stuttering issues here either on two different rigs, running either SLi or Single, with GTX 480, GTX 470 and GTX 465 cards, cpu's are i7 and C2Q.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/04 08:25:25
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Yea, its not affecting SLI users. Must be something with the multi core coding when using a single GPU that doesn't affect SLI users.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/06 20:23:33
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anyone notice a weird stutter in metro 2033? just DL'd it and it plays maxed out but has a weird stutter like feel to the gameplay. . .
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/06 20:24:57
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So what ever happened to the driver that was supposed to come out like last Monday? How far back did it get pushed, does anyone know?
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/06 20:49:31
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mdswish
Might help for Medal of Honor too. I know it's not out yet, but it uses the same engine as BC2, so it may make a difference. Have to wait and see.
yeah that's what i have been wondering. . . Its frostbite II engine so its going to have the same problem. . I didn't have my 480 when the beta was out, anyone have stutter/low utilization in MoH with their 4xx??
Actually, it's Frostbite 1.5 engine for both games. Frostbite 2 is being developed for Battlefield 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frostbite_Engine Also, Medal of Honor is an interesting. The Single player is Unreal 3 engine, and the Multiplayer is the Frostbite 1.5 engine.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 01:00:47
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So what ever happened to the driver that was supposed to come out like last Monday? How far back did it get pushed, does anyone know?
yeah it was pushed till the 13th
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 02:01:37
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The 13th or the 16...now I'm confused. This will fix the low GPU usage issue as well? I get the same performance on a 260 vs a 470 w/ a Q9550 @ 3.6Ghz...so I'm a little less than happy right now.
I just picked this up yesterday. I cannot believe some of you have been dealing w/ this for months. I thought only ATI users had to deal w/ this?
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 06:38:56
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Yeah, the game code and low GPU utilization comes exclusively in SLI setups with BFBC2... the game is notoriously slow (35% GPU utilization is pretty disgusting)
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 09:18:17
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Guys - its not the game code. Nvidia has already fixed this we are just waiting for a public driver release which has been pushed back by Nvidia. If you want to be pissed at anyone, Nvidia should be the direction your finger is in.
Manuel has been great working with the community - if it was up to him he'd already have this driver in our hands. But anyone that has a boss knows you can only do what you are allowed to do.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 10:05:12
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the game stutters the same in single gpu or with sli enabled. i get full gpu utilization in DX11. have not tried lower dx settings, though.
if you are not experiencing this annoying stutter it is because you are playing at frame rates that match or exceed your monitor's refresh rate and at that point you probably have vsync enabled. play with frame rates below your monitor's hertz and the stutters will be there.
i have played the game since beta. i have also played it on 8800gtx sli setup. the stutters were always present.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 10:21:05
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the game stutters the same in single gpu or with sli enabled. i get full gpu utilization in DX11. have not tried lower dx settings, though.
if you are not experiencing this annoying stutter it is because you are playing at frame rates that match or exceed your monitor's refresh rate and at that point you probably have vsync enabled. play with frame rates below your monitor's hertz and the stutters will be there.
i have played the game since beta. i have also played it on 8800gtx sli setup. the stutters were always present.
Then what you are seeing is probably not the same thing. For those of us with this particular problem a HD5870 didnt stutter at all. In the first minute there is a choppiness but that is the punk buster heatbeat thing. After that it was damn near unplayable because the hitch was just that bad. You might have some other stutter - disable AV software etc all the normal troubleshooting for that. I've yet to see someone with this particular stutter and SLI. SLI has its own microstutter but again thats not the same thing the guys with 4xx single cards are seeing. Does disabling one core using the set affinity trick fix it? If not, then this isn't the same problem.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 10:34:40
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disabling the cores does nothing. if anything it's a placebo effect. trust me i am experiencing the exact same thing as you all. it's the annoying hitching that almost mimics subtle network lag. the only thing that fixes this is hitting frame rates above the hertz and enabling vsync. only then it's butter smooth.
this is different than the classic micro stutter. like i said i have played with crap since beta. the only smooth gameplay i got (besides very high frame rates) was with ATI gpu solutions.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 12:58:07
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disabling the cores does nothing. if anything it's a placebo effect. trust me i am experiencing the exact same thing as you all. it's the annoying hitching that almost mimics subtle network lag. the only thing that fixes this is hitting frame rates above the hertz and enabling vsync. only then it's butter smooth.
this is different than the classic micro stutter. like i said i have played with crap since beta. the only smooth gameplay i got (besides very high frame rates) was with ATI gpu solutions.
dude i get 60-80 frames but it still stutters . . . and only utilizes 25%-48% of the gpu. . . its NOT the frames that is our issue, it is the developers multi core rendering that's at fault. .problem has been diagnosed, so sorry we don't need your input
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 13:08:42
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disabling the cores does nothing. if anything it's a placebo effect. trust me i am experiencing the exact same thing as you all. it's the annoying hitching that almost mimics subtle network lag. the only thing that fixes this is hitting frame rates above the hertz and enabling vsync. only then it's butter smooth.
this is different than the classic micro stutter. like i said i have played with crap since beta. the only smooth gameplay i got (besides very high frame rates) was with ATI gpu solutions.
dude i get 60-80 frames but it still stutters . . . and only utilizes 25%-48% of the gpu. . . its NOT the frames that is our issue, it is the developers multi core rendering that's at fault. .problem has been diagnosed, so sorry we don't need your input
people never read my posts thoroughly. i don't know why. if you enable vsync (which you should anyway at such high frames) to match your monitors refresh rate the stutters will be eliminated.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 13:11:41
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disabling the cores does nothing. if anything it's a placebo effect. trust me i am experiencing the exact same thing as you all. it's the annoying hitching that almost mimics subtle network lag. the only thing that fixes this is hitting frame rates above the hertz and enabling vsync. only then it's butter smooth.
this is different than the classic micro stutter. like i said i have played with crap since beta. the only smooth gameplay i got (besides very high frame rates) was with ATI gpu solutions.
dude i get 60-80 frames but it still stutters . . . and only utilizes 25%-48% of the gpu. . . its NOT the frames that is our issue, it is the developers multi core rendering that's at fault. .problem has been diagnosed, so sorry we don't need your input
people never read my posts thoroughly. i don't know why.
if you enable vsync (which you should anyway at such high frames) to match your monitors refresh rate the stutters will be eliminated.
That and there is a difference between screen tearing and studdering
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 13:14:28
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lol
i am not talking about screen tearing!
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 13:29:27
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Enabling vsync doesn't fix the stutter we had. Again, it's not the developers multi core rendering, its the drivers multi core optimizations that were at fault.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/07 13:46:09
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Enabling vsync doesn't fix the stutter we had. Again, it's not the developers multi core rendering, its the drivers multi core optimizations that were at fault.
I meant optimizations  lol, and yeah vertical sync doesn't change the stutter issue.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
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Re:Nvidia BF BC2 updates.
2010/09/08 08:55:46
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