Kamarad

amb669

ok i'v had this problem for awhile now and it was really starting to bother me in BFBC2, Crysis, Metro 2033 (maby other games i can't remember off hand) anyway while i was moving back and forth watching the stutter i noticed i was getting severe screen tare even though vsync was enabled in game which i thought oh no not another problem anyway that led me to notice these other games i'm getting this same stutter in were also having the same screen tare issue so i disabled vsync in game and forced vsync on in the nvidia control panel and disabled HPET in my bios now the game runs like butter (also it fixed the issue not just in this game but in crysis and metro 2033 aswell) using current drivers 258.96. i hope this helps

almost forgot i'm running a x58 mobo, i7 930 processor and a gtx 460. i'm not sure if this fix is limited to only my system but it's worth a try for anyone that can't wait for the new drivers

You patience will be rewarded!

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/graphics/nvidia-geforce-26062-beta-internal-drivers-leaked

Found it at the bottom of that site:

"According to Nvidia Senior PR Manager Bryan Del Rizzo, the Geforce 260.52 Beta drivers are currently under NDA until Monday, September 13, 2010. They will be posted for download on the official Nvidia site that day at 9am EST (6am PST) along with release notes and a changelog from the prior WHQL driver release."

Woo!

jgalmond

squall-leonhart

jgalmond

squall-leonhart
That said, the stutter was more experienced by single card users, YOU are probably experiencing standard micro stutter.  Your own fault for going multi-gpu.

This is such an asinine statement...

no, its an educated statement.

if you're sensitive to microstutter then going multigpu is the worst, and most ill advised thing you can do.

 
No, it's an asinine statement. SLI is not supposed to be worse than single cards. You make it sound like there is a disclaimer on the box "WARNING: Beware Microstutter".

hesite

jgalmond

squall-leonhart

jgalmond

squall-leonhart
That said, the stutter was more experienced by single card users, YOU are probably experiencing standard micro stutter.  Your own fault for going multi-gpu.

This is such an asinine statement...

no, its an educated statement.

if you're sensitive to microstutter then going multigpu is the worst, and most ill advised thing you can do.

No, it's an asinine statement. SLI is not supposed to be worse than single cards. You make it sound like there is a disclaimer on the box "WARNING: Beware Microstutter".

Unfortunately, sli/cfx is microstutterfesty on some games. If you see it, your life becomes shortened
http://www.pcgameshardwar...gies/Grafikkarte/Test/

hesite

No, it's an asinine statement. SLI is not supposed to be worse than single cards. You make it sound like there is a disclaimer on the box "WARNING: Beware Microstutter".

Unfortunately, sli/cfx is microstutterfesty on some games. If you see it, your life becomes shortened
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,631668/Video-proof-Micro-stuttering-may-destroy-the-performance-gains-from-current-multi-GPU-technologies/Grafikkarte/Test/

Robs03gts

Kamarad

amb669

ok i'v had this problem for awhile now and it was really starting to bother me in BFBC2, Crysis, Metro 2033 (maby other games i can't remember off hand) anyway while i was moving back and forth watching the stutter i noticed i was getting severe screen tare even though vsync was enabled in game which i thought oh no not another problem anyway that led me to notice these other games i'm getting this same stutter in were also having the same screen tare issue so i disabled vsync in game and forced vsync on in the nvidia control panel and disabled HPET in my bios now the game runs like butter (also it fixed the issue not just in this game but in crysis and metro 2033 aswell) using current drivers 258.96. i hope this helps

almost forgot i'm running a x58 mobo, i7 930 processor and a gtx 460. i'm not sure if this fix is limited to only my system but it's worth a try for anyone that can't wait for the new drivers

You patience will be rewarded!

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/graphics/nvidia-geforce-26062-beta-internal-drivers-leaked

Found it at the bottom of that site:

"According to Nvidia Senior PR Manager Bryan Del Rizzo, the Geforce 260.52 Beta drivers are currently under NDA until Monday, September 13, 2010. They will be posted for download on the official Nvidia site that day at 9am EST (6am PST) along with release notes and a changelog from the prior WHQL driver release."

Woo!

Maybe its just me but its kinda fun to have these drivers already running on my system. lol.

daleorama78

argh_sli

jgalmond

DNOTTIS

I quit using multi GPU solutions because of micro stutter.. I'm not sure if he's mad cause you brought it up or because he doesn't believe its real lmao.

...and it will shorten your life lol.

Sigh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g1vVJTGdtU
 
single card 5870 vs. gtx 460 sli.  both are running at 30 fps or better.  the single card is smooth.  the multi gpu setup has micro stutter making the 30 fps looking like 15 fps.
 
i had 2 sli gaming rigs.  8800 gtx sli and gtx 460 sli.  i also tested 2 more sli gaming setups to verify the micro stutter because it was driving me insane.  the other 2 setups included palit 2gb gtx 460 sli and evga vanila gtx 470 sli.  ALL systems exhibited the exact micro stutter.
 
if you want to deny there is no micro stutter with multi gpu solutions than you are fooling yourself.

 
 
 
LOL.......I have 3-way sli and its completely smooth no matter what the game. And 30 fps isnt really playable anyway.....lol. This makes me laugh. Trying to run crysis across 3 monitors with 460's and if it stutters OMG. Try getting your FPS above your monitor refresh rate and see how smooth it is.

daleorama78

argh_sli

jgalmond

DNOTTIS

I quit using multi GPU solutions because of micro stutter.. I'm not sure if he's mad cause you brought it up or because he doesn't believe its real lmao.

...and it will shorten your life lol.

Sigh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g1vVJTGdtU
 
single card 5870 vs. gtx 460 sli.  both are running at 30 fps or better.  the single card is smooth.  the multi gpu setup has micro stutter making the 30 fps looking like 15 fps.
 
i had 2 sli gaming rigs.  8800 gtx sli and gtx 460 sli.  i also tested 2 more sli gaming setups to verify the micro stutter because it was driving me insane.  the other 2 setups included palit 2gb gtx 460 sli and evga vanila gtx 470 sli.  ALL systems exhibited the exact micro stutter.
 
if you want to deny there is no micro stutter with multi gpu solutions than you are fooling yourself.

 
 
 
LOL.......I have 3-way sli and its completely smooth no matter what the game. And 30 fps isnt really playable anyway.....lol. This makes me laugh. Trying to run crysis across 3 monitors with 460's and if it stutters OMG. Try getting your FPS above your monitor refresh rate and see how smooth it is.

argh_sli

30 fps is not playable?  who in the world told you such a thing?  you must be confusing the quickness and precision you get from 60 fps vs. 30 fps.  but by no means should you state 30 frame rates is not playable when it has been and still is the gaming industries target frame rate. 
 
did you even look at the video i linked?  both cards ran at 30 fps.  the single gpu was smooth.  the multi gpu solution had micro stutter to the point it could give you epilepsy.
 
of course at locking your monitor's refresh rate and forcing vsync it will also be smooth.  that is the only way to eliminate multi gpu micro stutter.  you are required to achieve this very high frame rate but it also requires a ton-more cash invested into the setup whereas you can play at 30 fps for half the price and still have a smooth game play experience.

Afterburner

argh_sli

30 fps is not playable?  who in the world told you such a thing?  you must be confusing the quickness and precision you get from 60 fps vs. 30 fps.  but by no means should you state 30 frame rates is not playable when it has been and still is the gaming industries target frame rate. 

did you even look at the video i linked?  both cards ran at 30 fps.  the single gpu was smooth.  the multi gpu solution had micro stutter to the point it could give you epilepsy.

of course at locking your monitor's refresh rate and forcing vsync it will also be smooth.  that is the only way to eliminate multi gpu micro stutter.  you are required to achieve this very high frame rate but it also requires a ton-more cash invested into the setup whereas you can play at 30 fps for half the price and still have a smooth game play experience.

Just a set of thoughts here.... Well as to the 30fps... This is a bit on the lower side. Yeah sure 30 fps going side to side on a group of trees with no gun fire, explosions or introduced vehicle in motion.. sure it looks good.

Once we get into a far more active environment 60fps seems to become the low end standard for those of us looking for the best performance. Will the game drop to 30fps at times? heck yes. This is why a lot of us want the 60+ to help keep our games from dropping to low in the fps scale.

This also could be because as soon as we get say 75fps+ we start to add more AA and such, this causes the FPS to drop more.

So in reality. I think you are both saying the same thing just not in the same detail. 30fps with all the eyecandy the eyes can handle very well may be what the gaming designers go for. And 60fps very well could be what game players go for.

In the end all that matters is who spends the money should get what they pay for in their own mind. Period.

All the rest of it is personal preference and such. Until someone buys me my next gaming system (Including monitors and such) 60fps is the bottom of the barrel. My expectation is actually 70fps at the full on gaming mode with my triple monitor setup. This very same system with a single 1920x1200 res monitor scores far above 150fps at the bottom end of Metro 2033 during gaming. I know I do not see it, but what I do see is seemless gaming without glitches at 60fps and above...

argh_sli

daleorama78

argh_sli

jgalmond

DNOTTIS

I quit using multi GPU solutions because of micro stutter.. I'm not sure if he's mad cause you brought it up or because he doesn't believe its real lmao.

...and it will shorten your life lol.

Sigh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g1vVJTGdtU
 
single card 5870 vs. gtx 460 sli.  both are running at 30 fps or better.  the single card is smooth.  the multi gpu setup has micro stutter making the 30 fps looking like 15 fps.
 
i had 2 sli gaming rigs.  8800 gtx sli and gtx 460 sli.  i also tested 2 more sli gaming setups to verify the micro stutter because it was driving me insane.  the other 2 setups included palit 2gb gtx 460 sli and evga vanila gtx 470 sli.  ALL systems exhibited the exact micro stutter.
 
if you want to deny there is no micro stutter with multi gpu solutions than you are fooling yourself.

 
 
 
LOL.......I have 3-way sli and its completely smooth no matter what the game. And 30 fps isnt really playable anyway.....lol. This makes me laugh. Trying to run crysis across 3 monitors with 460's and if it stutters OMG. Try getting your FPS above your monitor refresh rate and see how smooth it is.

 
30 fps is not playable?  who in the world told you such a thing?  you must be confusing the quickness and precision you get from 60 fps vs. 30 fps.  but by no means should you state 30 frame rates is not playable when it has been and still is the gaming industries target frame rate. 
 
did you even look at the video i linked?  both cards ran at 30 fps.  the single gpu was smooth.  the multi gpu solution had micro stutter to the point it could give you epilepsy.
 
of course at locking your monitor's refresh rate and forcing vsync it will also be smooth.  that is the only way to eliminate multi gpu micro stutter.  you are required to achieve this very high frame rate but it also requires a ton-more cash invested into the setup whereas you can play at 30 fps for half the price and still have a smooth game play experience.

squall-leonhart

PC's target FPS has been 60 ever since 3Dfx drove it into my head. Cant remember that? Your statement is fail

PC Gaming does not have a target FPS persay, but certain game engines use FPS varied event timers.... oblivions physics engine for example is synced every 2 frames.