nick_shl

the_Scarlet_oneDo you really, truly, actually think that eBay and PayPal don’t have the sellers information? Really? I honestly can’t tell if you are joking or serious at this point, because everything you have said this far shows that you know little to nothing about any of this process…

Probably identity theft and money mules doesn't exist in your world.

toyboarderLiterally the only one that suffers from this are people that buy

And most unfair thing: seller didn't adequately protect possessions, as result it was stolen. So, seller partially responsible for accident. Buyer doesn't know and can't know that he buying stolen goods off eBay/marketplace/Craigslist. But in the end goods will be returned to seller and buyer will left without anything. I talking in general how system works, not particular about EVGA.

EVGATech_LeeM
If you are able to get access to the serial number from the seller, then you can confirm it on our Check Warranty page.

kgtuning
Let’s think about this… naive person buys a used card but doesn’t realize the card is stolen…
Naive person goes to register “used” card…
Now naive person has logged into evgas website with a stolen card and is now involved into a legal problem because it’s against the law to buy a stolen card.

EVGATech_LeeM
I'm sure that ...
If someone enters a serial number from a stolen card into our Warranty Check page, it's only going to notify them that the product is stolen, has no warranty, and direct them to this thread for more information.

Method320
What's the reason behind not honoring warranties? Surely the delivery company has insurance?

EVGATech_LeeM
I'm sure that there are some here that honestly believe posting a list of serial numbers may help people avoid making a purchase of stolen goods.  Many of you are overlooking the possibility that a seller in possession of stolen goods may remove the serial number sticker from the card to avoid this very issue.  With that said, I'm sure that many of you demanding a list care little for innocent end-users and would like to see a list to count how many and which part numbers were stolen.  This information, of course, would be provided to the authorities and will not be released to the public.
 
Remember, EVGA has no obligation to inform the public that a shipment was stolen, or inform people that there may be legal liability when purchasing a stolen product.  However, by doing so, perhaps some people might think a bit harder about purchasing a card from a suspicious third-party seller and avoid that situation.
 
As others have said, if an unaware buyer purchases the product and goes to register it without knowing about this situation, there is little that EVGA can do to improve the situation.  They are already purchasing a product from an unauthorized third-party, which bears its own set of risks.  If they need to contact EVGA for service and learn about the situation, they can take further steps at that time.  Having the stolen product in their possession creates the legal problem, not when they try to register it.  Being unaware of the nature of the goods is generally a legal defense if surrendered upon learning about the good's status.
 
If the buyer cannot obtain the serial number prior to purchase, then a list of serial numbers will not help them if they cannot compare...serial numbers.  If the buyer can obtain the serial number prior to purchase, then they can use our Warranty Check page to determine the warranty status.  You don't need to be logged in to use the utility or provide additional details to use the search. 
 
If someone enters a serial number from a stolen card into our Warranty Check page, it's only going to notify them that the product is stolen, has no warranty, and direct them to this thread for more information.

hitmano02
ask for serial numbers first?  Sure you can ask, you can ask anything you want .    But any seller with half of brain will turn you down.   How do I know you are not faming elite accounts with my cards?   How about you zelle me $1000 to prove you are not trying to scam for a SN ?    

nomoss

nick_shl
Secondhand Owners - Secondhand owners of a product shipped from EVGA on or after May 25th, 2018 must provide a proof of purchase of the sale from the previous owner to you, the current owner.
So, it may be eBay listing, it may be some piece of paper where seller will write "I am, seller, sold this product to buyer". I wondering what prevent buyer to make such paper by himself if he doesn't have one...

Does not change that these are now stolen goods.  Nobody warranties stolen goods.

Bheleu
Why would anyone register a used card they bought off of ebay, or from an non retail source?
 
Now if I did buy a card from ebay, and I had a serial number, I could contact EVGA and let them know if I purchased one of their stolen cards, etc. If you do not publish the list, then good luck finding the culprits involved. I know you would be concerned if you publish the list then someone might not try to register the stolen cards; however, you are assuming your users are criminals first as opposed to honest people first. Good luck, and hope you can locate them.

PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that under state and Federal law:

• It is a criminal and civil offense to “buy or receive” property that has been stolen. Cal. Penal Code section 496(a).

HeavyHemi

smudgerox
EVGA_JacobF needs to edit his post. There's no reason to lie by omission, especially when you are citing a penal code. If this came from the legal department, it's an even worse offense.
 

PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that under state and Federal law:

• It is a criminal and civil offense to “buy or receive” property that has been stolen. Cal. Penal Code section 496(a).

 
(a) Every person who buys or receives any property that has been stolen or that has been obtained in any manner constituting theft or extortion, knowing the property to be so stolen or obtained(...)
 
Saying that it's illegal to keep it once you find out, sure. That's included in the penal code, and as previously said in the thread, turn it in, file a chargeback if possible, whatever. It's a lot of paperwork and hassle. But omitting this in order to scare users is sickening behavior. 
 
 

You're silly accusing Jacob of both lying and acting as an attorney.  The only persons that would be scared are those purchasing from a sketchy source.
Your post is sickening attention seeking behavior. Wow.