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2019/03/20 11:31:16 (permalink)
Hi,
Maybe have I noticed that before but I don't remember...

On some recent games like the division 2 or Devil May Cry 5, I've noticed that my GPU, (1080ti FTW3) seems to run a bit hotter than I remember.

here are the temperatures i've seen in HW info after some gaming on the division (and also my fan curve)

I just don't really understand too why pwr4 is way higher than the other ?

are those normal  and safe?

I have a case h500m and at first I had the top fans set as intake, they are above the radiator, can"t fit under it and i set it up to exhaust, thinking that might help with GPU temperatures (did not noticed any difference on the cpu though)...

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/20 12:56:57 (permalink)
    I also would like to know "default" temps, since i replaced all thermal pads on my card (+TIM). Except pads under backplate (they was fine).
     
    When card is idle (also fans don't spin) - i got 38-40°C on everything (GPU, MEM, PWR).

     
    Also you may look what's GPU currently working with by turn on NVIDIA GPU activity monitor (or whatever it's called). Go to NVIDIA control panel and then to Desktop tab in horizontal menu.
     
    P.S. Forgot about my room temp - it's 25°C.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/20 13:41:34 (permalink)
    Looks fine to me.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/20 13:44:04 (permalink)
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    Looks fine to me.

    10°C diffirence on PWM may be because of pad degradation (if card is few years old?)?
     
    Not sure about dust... too much diffirence for dust.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 00:09:30 (permalink)
    the card was bought in 2017 so I don't know

    I was actually wondering if I could make a less agressive fan curve to get less noise. I play with headset so I don't care for myself but since i'm often up early before my girlfriend and gaming sometimes I'd like to have a quieter GPU :)

    What temp would be ok for max? 80c?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 02:54:47 (permalink)
    Asryan
    the card was bought in 2017 so I don't know

    It's recommended to replace Thermal Interface after 1,5-2 years, since it degrodate. That's why temp go up. But problem is - not all users actually may replace thermal interface (various reasons).
     
    Asryan
    What temp would be ok for max? 80c?

    Max temp for core (GP102) is 91 degree, so everything below is "in spec", but lower temp is always good.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 03:33:06 (permalink)
    Your room is 25C?!?!? That's like 76F..... why??!?! Are you in the desert?!?! That will most def affect your temps but if that's the ambient temps your working with then your temps aren't bad at all. I keep my house at 60F year round cause I wouldn't be able to stand anything hotter when I want to relax/game/surf/tv/movies. Working in high temps, preferably without the freakin humidity, is another thing which I don't mind as much cause im used to it.

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 06:55:13 (permalink)
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    Your room is 25C?!?!? That's like 76F..... why??!?! Are you in the desert?!?! That will most def affect your temps but if that's the ambient temps your working with then your temps aren't bad at all.

    25°C is standard room temp here in Russia (in apartments) because of central heating system. Temp outside (street) is 2°C today. When i started PC today - GPU idle temp was 30°C and slowly go up to 40°C and stopped (no fan spins).
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 08:26:30 (permalink)
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    the card was bought in 2017 so I don't know

    It's recommended to replace Thermal Interface after 1,5-2 years, since it degrodate. That's why temp go up. But problem is - not all users actually may replace thermal interface (various reasons).
     
    Asryan
    What temp would be ok for max? 80c?

    Max temp for core (GP102) is 91 degree, so everything below is "in spec", but lower temp is always good.




    Do you have any tutorial to replace thermal interface?

    Actually I'm wondering about changing GPU and upgrade, well in a few months, need to save money but not really sure it's worthing it since my monitor is 100hz and all game i'm playing are on ultra setting so i'm not even sure i'll see a difference right?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 08:34:07 (permalink)
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    Do you have any tutorial to replace thermal interface?

    No, at least not yet.
     
    I saw few videos at Gamers Nexus YouTube channels (i think i saw it there). But you should be ready for complexity of that. :)
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 08:40:45 (permalink)
    Thanks will look into it, can I use some Kryonaut for it?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 09:13:33 (permalink)
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    Thanks will look into it, can I use some Kryonaut for it?

    Yes, you can use Kryonaut.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 11:41:58 (permalink)
    Thanks.

    I've removed the custom curve for the gpu and ran the fan stock, it's a bit less loud now and maxed out at 77c so I guess it's all good?

     

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 11:57:40 (permalink)
     
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    I've removed the custom curve for the gpu and ran the fan stock, it's a bit less loud now and maxed out at 77c so I guess it's all good? 

    You may actually look on card itself in you case useing this scheme:
    Maybe something block airflow to MEM2 and PWR4? They almost on the same spot, but on diffirent sides. What's there inside you case?
     

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 13:05:38 (permalink)
     I have a good airflow I think with the H500M, i'll look into it but I don't see any reasons.. maybe i do need to change the thermal paste on it...
     
    here are the termals after a while of gaming
     
     
     
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/21 16:37:58 (permalink)

    Idle temps on My GTX 1080 ti FTW3 DT with Hybrid Kit.
    GPU 33c  Power 35c  Memory 34c  (ambient room temp 24c)
    So a normal idle temp is ruffly 10c degrees above ambient.
     
     
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/22 06:59:58 (permalink)
    Also,
    is it better to run slave or master bios?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/22 07:01:24 (permalink)
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    Also,
    is it better to run slave or master bios?

    If they are same - it don't metter.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/22 08:46:27 (permalink)
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    Also,
    is it better to run slave or master bios?


    Slave allows for an increase in base fan speed & Power

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/22 15:57:21 (permalink)
    But without any OC for example does that changes anything?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/22 16:25:44 (permalink)
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    But without any OC for example does that changes anything?


    Yes the slave bios with no overclock, it still sets the fan to run a minimum of like 15% constantly. compared to the master that lets the fans stop if cool enough.
    master option max power available is like 117%
    Slave option max power available is like 127% if applied in XOC 
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/28 09:22:06 (permalink)
    What is the point of maxing max power ?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/28 11:06:15 (permalink)
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    What is the point of maxing max power ?


    Helps prevent the card from dynamically adjusting due to hitting the power limit.
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/29 06:04:19 (permalink)
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    Thanks will look into it, can I use some Kryonaut for it?

    Yes, you can use Kryonaut.




    For how long is the Kryonaut good?
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/29 10:24:54 (permalink)
    Most TIM's will lose some degree of effectiveness after a few years.

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/29 14:27:06 (permalink)
    Thanks!


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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/29 17:29:42 (permalink)
    Hi,
    I'm thinking about changing thermal paste on the GPU.(EVGA 1080ti FTW3)
    I was wondering :
     
    Can I use this to clean ? https://www.amazon.fr/Arctic-Silver-ArctiClean-Nettoyant-thermique/dp/B003C2QR4G?fbclid=IwAR2G9otAV_i6N_vHruYlIh6Q2yYajP-_OyO3p6vatyUMy5nd7YaTT54vqRE
     
    There is only one spot to clan and replace thermal paste? Will that lower GPU temps, power temps and memory as well?
     
    I've noticed that it's the Power4 probe which is the hotter
     
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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/30 06:48:37 (permalink)
    Or you could use isopropyl alcohol 99%.
    It's very effective at removing old thermal paste, perfectly safe, and you can get 500ml for about the same price.
    Can be easily found in pharmacy and super market.


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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/30 06:49:23 (permalink)
    Thanks, I already have some arctic cleaner stuff would that be ok?

    Are the thermal pads supposed to be replaced as well?

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    Re: Normal / safe temps 2019/03/30 06:56:42 (permalink)
    I know someone who can repaste with conductonaut, does that worths it?

    Also is reducing power target can lower temperatures? If i go to 85% for example I don't really see less fps so..
     
    And is it a good idea to change the thermal pads as well?

    Are those good?

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