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Re:New RAID ROM 2013/12/23 23:26:19 (permalink)
BTW, there will be a new RAID ROM 12.9 very soon. It won't have TRIM support for X58 like that older modded BIOS a few posts up, but I will update all my modded BIOSes with the latest one nonetheless. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Re:New RAID ROM 2013/12/24 05:52:07 (permalink)
Well it's good then that I didn't flash that 1.2e ahci module. Read reports that it had issues. So there is not anything newer than than 1.07.10 then. Anyhow I tried the 11.6 trim modded for ich10r and am having stability issues when raid is turned on playing skyrim I get hard locks randomly loading new levels. Not sure if it's my overclock or driver corruption or what. Never happened before. Seems to go away when raid is turned off. Installed 11.2 rom and driver and testing for stability. If it happens again then I can assume it's not the mod. Time will tell if its corruption in the raid cache. Keep you old x58 timers posted..

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Re:New RAID ROM 2013/12/26 14:57:22 (permalink)
Updated original post (http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1605686) with links to modded BIOSes containing latest Intel RAID Option ROM 13.1.0.2030.
 
Latest Intel RST package 13.0.0.1072 available here:
http://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/listes-constructeurs/33-intel/516-intel-rst
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/02 11:32:10 (permalink)
hi henryvits thank you again for the new updates.
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/04 23:38:02 (permalink)
I am sorry if I shouldn't be asking this here but I am curious.  I am doing a fresh install of Windows 7.  I installed the Intel RST that is listed in the driver section for my mobo.  Is there any reason why I should be installing a different version?  Sorry for my ignorance but I "assumed" the driver section would have the most important and recent drivers.   

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/05 04:46:20 (permalink)
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I am sorry if I shouldn't be asking this here but I am curious.  I am doing a fresh install of Windows 7.  I installed the Intel RST that is listed in the driver section for my mobo.  Is there any reason why I should be installing a different version?  Sorry for my ignorance but I "assumed" the driver section would have the most important and recent drivers.   


It is recommended you use a driver set that matches the branch number of the orom such that if your bios has 13.xxxx rom you should use the corresponding 13.xxxx driver as intel has them optimized to work best that way. Also it is rumored that 12.x and 13.x roms are optimized for newer chipsets like z87x as opposed to x58. Not that it won't work. Probably will and you can even use a newer driver set than your orom if you want. For instance I'm using the trim modded 11.6 rom with the 12.9 driver as my gut is telling me that it feels smoother and less buggy. Wish there was a modded 13.x rom but beggars can't be choosy I guess..

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/05 10:16:45 (permalink)
I am using the latest bios 83.  I installed the Intel RST that was listed in my motherboard software downloads.  
 
Is that fine or should I look further into this?  

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/05 10:34:18 (permalink)
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I am using the latest bios 83.  I installed the Intel RST that was listed in my motherboard software downloads.  
 
Is that fine or should I look further into this?  




If your using the latest 'mod' bios modded with latest intel raid firmware then you should use a corresponding driver set. If your running solid state disks in raid and you want trim then your going to have to flash one of the trim compatible firmwares. Not sure if Henry has added that to his modded list of bios files.

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/05 10:47:06 (permalink)
My SSDs have their own garbage collection.  So I am not using trim.  I don't know if I should be at this point.  When I originally got them trim wasn't available.  Which is why I went with them because they had their own built in trim type function.  

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/05 11:11:52 (permalink)
I did some research and it appears Trim isn't available for X58 chipsets.  Maybe there is modded software that makes it work but I am not an expert at this and don't want to attempt it.  
 
My SSD drives are known for having overly aggressive garbage collection.  That is good enough for me.  
 
 

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/05 19:30:00 (permalink)
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I did some research and it appears Trim isn't available for X58 chipsets.  Maybe there is modded software that makes it work but I am not an expert at this and don't want to attempt it.   My SSD drives are known for having overly aggressive garbage collection.  That is good enough for me.    


Not officially no it isn't. But someone modded the 11.6 raid rom to turn it on. I can attest that it works. If only Intel would support hardware that's more than a few years old we wouldn't have to use mods. Anyhow do what you want but be careful with those 13.x roms running on X58 as those are just as much official as the 11.6 trim mod raid firmware.

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 05:40:15 (permalink)
I ended up at the same place dmoheban did. 11.6 trim modded rom and 12.9 drivers. I also agree with his description that it just feels better.
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 09:03:30 (permalink)
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I did some research and it appears Trim isn't available for X58 chipsets.  Maybe there is modded software that makes it work but I am not an expert at this and don't want to attempt it.   My SSD drives are known for having overly aggressive garbage collection.  That is good enough for me.    


Not officially no it isn't. But someone modded the 11.6 raid rom to turn it on. I can attest that it works. If only Intel would support hardware that's more than a few years old we wouldn't have to use mods. Anyhow do what you want but be careful with those 13.x roms running on X58 as those are just as much official as the 11.6 trim mod raid firmware.



I just reinstalled windows and installed the drivers listed in the motherboard section.  All I installed was the chipset drivers and Intel RST.  I didn't install any raid drivers while installing Windows.
 
If you were me would you install the modded raid rom and the corresponding drivers?  If so could you walk me through the steps to do so?   

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 09:12:29 (permalink)
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I did some research and it appears Trim isn't available for X58 chipsets.  Maybe there is modded software that makes it work but I am not an expert at this and don't want to attempt it.   My SSD drives are known for having overly aggressive garbage collection.  That is good enough for me.    


Not officially no it isn't. But someone modded the 11.6 raid rom to turn it on. I can attest that it works. If only Intel would support hardware that's more than a few years old we wouldn't have to use mods. Anyhow do what you want but be careful with those 13.x roms running on X58 as those are just as much official as the 11.6 trim mod raid firmware.



I just reinstalled windows and installed the drivers listed in the motherboard section.  All I installed was the chipset drivers and Intel RST.  I didn't install any raid drivers while installing Windows.
 
If you were me would you install the modded raid rom and the corresponding drivers?  If so could you walk me through the steps to do so?   




Thing is if you were me I would but I don't know how technical you are at handling raid and motherboard bios issues that could come up. So if I was you I would just play it safe and don't bother with it because your going to have to have someone mod your bios with 11.6 for trim rom file and then flash the file and take the chance your system will work properly in regards to Marvel controllers and the like. However if your as bored as I am playing with obsolete hardware and love to squeeze out as much performance and features no matter what the risk then do it.

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 09:21:45 (permalink)
Ok.  I don't have an extra bios chip so if I make a mistake I am basically screwed.  Also, there isn't a modded bios I can just download and install?  So basically I would have to find someone who can mod a bios for me?       

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 09:42:44 (permalink)
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Ok.  I don't have an extra bios chip so if I make a mistake I am basically screwed.  Also, there isn't a modded bios I can just download and install?  So basically I would have to find someone who can mod a bios for me?       


Finding someone to mod it for you isn't an issue. You could ask Henry or go to Win-Raid.com and ask Fernando. I'm sure they would do it for you. The big risk is what if the flash fails, or what if the rom conflicts with other hardware. I think the risk is low though. In 25 years I have had a bad flash happen only like once. The more obvious risk is  data corruption from trim not working right on X58 as its basically untested. In my case so far so good.

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 10:52:38 (permalink)
The main advantage is I will have an option to use Trim which should keep my SSD drives running at their peak?  
 
My SSDs are far from the fastest.  Very far from the fastest compared to today's drives!  Also, since I am using the 3gb sata ports I doubt the addition of trim support is worth the hassle and risk.  The Marvell 6gb ports, we all know, are not any faster than the 3gb Intel ports on the x58 platform.  In fact they seem to have more issues than the 3gb ports and lengthen the boot process.  So I don't use them.  
 
It sounds like sticking with what I have is the way to go.  I will be sure to leave my computer on and at idle every few weeks to allow garbage collection to do its thing.  I know it is not ideal for peak performance but it should be good enough.  My windows hard disk rating has dropped from 7.6 when I first started using the ssd raid 0 drives to 7.4.  They are over a year old now so that appears to be a reasonable drop in performance.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 11:07:01 (permalink)
Yeah those Marvel ports could cause an issue. You probably would have to shut them off but yes Trim does help maintain SSD performance. I benched two raid arrays on different controllers and on that 11.6 on X58 two Sandisk Ultra Plus drives gave me a score of a 1000 with AS-SSD Benchmark and on Haswell rig two Kingston 128gb 3K drives gave me a score of 800. That was with sata6 on the Intel ports!
 
Anyhow if your not comfortable doing it then don't. Good luck.
 

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 11:24:32 (permalink)
Thanks for your help dmoheban!  I really appreciate it!  
 
Just to verify I did the fresh windows install properly this is what I did:  ran the windows disk, selected install windows, deleted old hard drive partitions, installed windows, installed chipset drivers, installed Intel RST, then the rest of the normal drivers (video, sound, keyboard, etc).  After all drivers were installed I installed the window updates.  

I didn't install any raid drivers before or while installing windows.  Was I suppose to?  
 
I am sorry if this is a dumb question or not the proper thread.  You can have a mod move this if you want to.  You've been so helpful I figured I would ask here.   

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 12:45:18 (permalink)
If you installed the Intel RST package the raid drivers are included.
 
 

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/06 12:53:31 (permalink)
So it sounds like I did it properly.  I remember back in the day that you had to install Raid drivers while installing windows.  Of course that was probably back in the XP or earlier days.  

               
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/21 13:42:55 (permalink)
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I ended up at the same place dmoheban did. 11.6 trim modded rom and 12.9 drivers. I also agree with his description that it just feels better.


 
mitymaus just to get this right you are running 2 SSDs in RAID 0 on your E760 motherbarid and trim is working?
 
What operating system? W7 64 bit?
Have you used trimcheck to verify it?
What SSDs are you using?
 
Could you post a link to the exact bios bin you used on your E760 and what exact 12.9 drivers you are using?
 
thank you in advance.


post edited by TARGETZ - 2014/01/21 13:51:48
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/21 17:33:12 (permalink)
On my E760 I'm running 2 OCZ Vertex 2's in RAID0 with TRIM working. I did use trimcheck for verification. W7 64 with 12.9.0.1001 RST drivers and the modded orom 11.6.0.1702.  I'll look and see if I can find my modded bios, not sure where I put it...
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/21 18:09:12 (permalink)
This is the E760 trim modded bios. use at your own risk. https://docs.google.com/f...xoNllkbUJuWnhLM1E/edit

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/22 12:16:37 (permalink)
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On my E760 I'm running 2 OCZ Vertex 2's in RAID0 with TRIM working. I did use trimcheck for verification. W7 64 with 12.9.0.1001 RST drivers and the modded orom 11.6.0.1702.  I'll look and see if I can find my modded bios, not sure where I put it...


Thank you very much for the bios I will give it a shot. I tried a bunch of the one Henryvits posted with the 13.1 (couldn't fine the older ones as he updated his post and links) but couldn't get trim to work.
 
I will let you know
 
thanks again
 
 
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/28 19:24:31 (permalink)
To all of you still playing around with your X58 boards there are new modded Trim capable Intel raid modules all the way from 12.7 to the 13.1 rom release on the Win-Raid.com forums. Use at your own risk but I'm going to try the 12.7  right now!

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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/29 09:07:37 (permalink)
Updated original post (http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1605686) with links to modded BIOSes containing latest Intel RAID Option ROM 13.1.0.2030 modded for TRIM as well as latest Realtek PXE ROM 2.59.
 
Latest Intel RST package 13.0.0.1072 available here:
http://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/listes-constructeurs/33-intel/516-intel-rst
post edited by henryvits - 2014/01/29 09:09:49
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/30 09:49:53 (permalink)
Many thanks henryvits, latest Orom, drivers and trim! I installed the modded bios 13.1 and 13.0 beta drivers last night, but, trim could not be verified initially, I tried a few reboots but no luck, figured I would deal with it later. Today, it works perfectly! Go figure.
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/30 13:22:30 (permalink)
i can verify that trim is working on my x58 767.
on a another note
i have had a problem with my usb 3.0 for a while. i figured i should update that as well. low and behold it fixed the stability and link speed problems i was having so i figured i'd share the fix.
 
This is for the NEC/RENESAS USB3 Controller
 
Firmware Version 4.0.2.1.0.3
http://www.station-drivers.com/download/renesas/F402103FWUP1.zip
 
Driver Version 2.1.39.0
http://www.station-driver...ation-drivers.com).exe
 
 
select firmware and drivers for uPD720200 & uPD720200a
http://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/10-drivers/42-renesas-nec
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Re:New RAID ROM 2014/01/30 15:51:22 (permalink)
Just to clarify --
 
When you guys mention trim working on x58, you're talking about trim in RAID working on x58, right? It's been my understanding that trim in single-drive'd AHCI setups has been working all along. I hope I haven't mistaken that.
 
 
 
Secondly, from what I gather from Fernando's forums -- there really isn't any benefit for x58'ers to keep updating OROMs and drivers beyond 11.2ish releases. Apparently, Intel hasn't pushed even a wink of new updates or improvements for ICH10R/X58 chipsets in their driver/OROM releases since then (although the newer ones still technically support x58/ICH10R), but rather, are only optimizing the releases newer chipsets and controllers.
 
Is this true? If so, what's the point of continuing to mod and push upware to higher versions? Wouldn't that just be gambling with instability issues with zero chance of performance gain?
 
 
Don't get me wrong -- I'd love to keep pushing my ol' x58'er to infinity and beyond, I'm just wary of attempting to do so but ending up going in the opposite direction.
 
For reference, I'm on an eVGA x758 (bios 83) with an Intel 320 160GB SSD in AHCI, currently with 11.2.0.1527 OROM/11.2.0.1006 drivers. As it's been my understanding that trim has worked fine in AHCI mode, I haven't modded any bios/oroms yet (but will do so if I'm mistaken!).
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