I think 2-3 days would be construed as an anomaly and nothing more... a longer strike/boycott would definately rule out an anomaly and put it into the realm of 'oh lord... did we screw up!".

I say strike til they change the policy...  3, 5 12 days, one month whatever...  Don't the BigAdv rigs default to SMP if there aren't any BigAdv work units?  They would be better off just limiting the bigAdv work units and keeping it quiet.

Just remember you can turn them into crunchers if the strike goes down! No sense in wasting time when we can help find cures for other distributed computing groups.

As much as I can't stand unions, sometimes they are necessary and serve a purpose.  (I can't believe I just said that!!!)  it's time to form a BidAdv Union!!!!!!  Time to go on strike!!!!  BigAdv Folders UNITE!!!!!!! 

HECK NO! SOCKET-F WON'T GO!!!!
HECK NO! SOCKET-F WON'T GO!!!!
HECK NO! SOCKET-F WON'T GO!!!!
HECK NO! SOCKET-F WON'T GO!!!!
HECK NO! SOCKET-F WON'T GO!!!!
ETC... 

bill1024

Punchy
This whole core count minimum is silly.  The cutoff should just be whether you can meet the deadlines or not; there are too many other factors in performance to say whether 24-core system A folds faster or slower than 32-core system B.  I'm sure we will see the resurrection of the core count workaround when the limits change.

I don't advocate a month strike, 48-72 hours would send a wake up call.
 
I think the whole problem is they need to have more regular SMP WUs folded. Many folders stopped folding them.
They have more bigadv folders than they need at this point in time. I can understand this.
I am sure PG sees all the threads about building bigadv units for the cost of an entry level video card.
So killing socket F and duel hexcore Intel will lower bigadv folding, pushing more into SMP or GPU. PG still loves the GPU
I have no doubt PG will lower the return time on 8101 to what ever they need to so 32 core lower end just make the deadline.
Their not dumb, they know all the core count spoofing tricks.
 
My response is still, why are the regular SMP points so low if they have so many WUs that need to be folded?
Add a nice QRB to SMP and make donors happy.
 
I will bet PG is reading the reactions on these forums, no doubt in my mind.

 
a few days would be same as a server outage 
it wouldn't even threaten them or scare them - research projects take months or years
 
now if you threaten to take the top 10-20 teams out for a month or two or three-
a two month  or longer delay to a undergrads research is a big deal - makes the difference in graduating - losing funding
 
stanford works on funding - if they are failing to meet deadlines because of foolish policy changes - and losing research funding, grants, students not meeting research deadlines, future prof candidate and students will go elsewhere because stanford is blowing it 
ie if I can't get research done or funding because of stupid policy changes then I'll seek doing my research elsehere - or I'll go where I have more stable funding and cpu resources
 
 
that's how you get their attention - talking about doing this stuff helps as well - gets them nervous
 
Im sure stanford roams the forum often looking for policy feedback - specially after an announcement like this
 
what Id like to here is reasoning for the change,,,ie exact details as to why?
maybe the 15 core intel chips gave something to do with it -120 thread 4P's
and haswell is expected to have more and it's coming next year 3Q with 8core/16thread single cpu system (desktop E chip)
 
and why not re-balance the point system with regards to all systems including SMP to reflect current needs and work
SMP is not useless - but if you keep dropping points for it - I won't do them - more energy efficient to do GPU
 
as everyone has said before - once again we have to deal with the same issue as last time
did anything change? not really - points re-balance hasn't come about
and look at the fallout core 15 issue kepler perfomance - finally get a decent core17 and then they hold back GPU bigadv and EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY as well (folding CPU WORK ON GPU)
 

I'm sure not going to invest more cash into higher core count cpu's since next year they will move the goal post.  Leadership like this creates confusion and keeps folks like us from being able to plan into the future.  Whoever is in charge over there clearly needs some assistance...  And I mean fast!!!  Do they know that we are doing this for free?  That's what makes me sooo angry about this.  They act like we are being paid for this and just have to suck it up.  Think again grasshopper!!!

zildjian75
I'm sure not going to invest more cash into higher core count cpu's since next year they will move the goal post.  Leadership like this creates confusion and keeps folks like us from being able to plan into the future.  Whoever is in charge over there clearly needs some assistance...  And I mean fast!!!  Do they know that we are doing this for free?  That's what makes me sooo angry about this.  They act like we are being paid for this and just have to suck it up.  Think again grasshopper!!!

+1

bill1024

Viper97
Folks... move them workhorses to the Crunching team... three sub forums under this one!  We have a Christmas Challenge and we could use all the help we can get!  Set up is easy... download the client, install it and create your account.  We can guide you thru the process if you wish.  Put them 16 core machines to use!
 
Help us please!  (If I like, get down on my knees would it help? )
 

The 24 core cpu can do crunching in Linux?

You can set it to do as many as you have cores or use less if you wish.
Like on my 980x I just set for PrimeGrid to use 5 cores and World Community to use 5 with 2 left open
to help the GPU if needed, but I don't think Lite Coin needs any free CPU cores but I left 2 free just in case.

Wolf... don't forget the Winter Solstice Prime Grid challenge :)

 Here's a picture of the 48 core... and the client... it's currently working 48 separate WCG projects (Aids and Mapping Cancer Markers).
 

That's what my work says about me... :)

kerryd
Well I all ready dropped my gpu's.Time to drop my ankle biters . 32 more core going to crunching lets see lol that is will be like 60 cores PG is losing + 6 gpu's.Off to figure out how to install Boinc Mang. on my 4p's.
Sure going to miss March maddness but what the hell better then getting blanked on 2 3 month old servers.
 I am deleting both wu's on my ankle biters lol ones at 85%
ON STRIKE

Yes I closed out 2 bigadv one at 85% completed the other at 90% & a 3rd at 20%
Plus cut off all GPU's and SMP clients.
On Strike.

I was going to cut off my GPU's in the morning to switch to the Winter Solstice Challenge in PrimeGrid, but I'll set them to finish now and save some electric.
Solidarity brothers and sisters!
 
Coke, it was fun and AB is safe.

Viper97

zildjian75
What's this crunching thing I keep hearing about?

You ask and so you will receive read here:
 
http://forums.evga.com/tt.aspx?forumid=79
 
That's the Crunching@EVGA team thread.
 
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp
 
This is the WCG forum... currently popular work units right now that are running full time are Fighting Aids @ Home and Mapping Cancer Markers.
 
WCG and the BOINC client can do a lot with machines that no longer do the bigadv and you still get to contribute to what may one day be a solution to a health problem.
 
Stop on by the other side... many of us fold and crunch... I'm one of them. 

Your old 4P will get the Hex cores and I will read up on your links and start crunching for EVGA tomorrow. May have more questions to follow. If needed will open new post for crunching in that forum. If easy, will do second system for a total of 48 cores. This may be the best thing to happen for crunching at EVGA.