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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/05 15:33:44 (permalink)
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I'm hoping you keep updating your test drive, will be interesting to see a monthly update to see if it lasts 1 year or more

I’ll post monthly updates.
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/05 15:34:35 (permalink)
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Well just put the Honeywell pad on my Rog Strix oc 4090 hotspot was getting up to 82c, the pad an automatic drop with no cure time yet freshly installed it’s already down to 67c. Idle temps went from 28-31c down to 26c already.



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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/06 03:05:52 (permalink)
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I had same problem because ASUS manage to not apply thermal paste correctly. Already ordered PTM7950 but kryonaut will be good for now. 
 
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GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX 4090 OC
Stock thermal paste: 78C core, memory 68C, hotspot 105.3C
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut: 69C core, memory 72C, hotspot 79.7C

 

 


By any chance did you measure the H & W of die that touches the vapor chamber plate? I have looked and asked everywhere with no luck. Nvidia’s squared measurement is wrong as the chip is taller than it is wide.

No :(


 

 
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/06 05:10:56 (permalink)
Anyone tried the Honeywell PCM Past yet?
 
PTM7900 Series Datasheets & Reports
 
PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Paste 
 
or 
 
PTM7958 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Paste - Honeywell PTM7958-SP is an optimized version of Honeywell PTM7950-SP with even better performance.

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/06 05:43:48 (permalink)
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Where is everyone ordering PTM7950 from?
 
Seems to be some quality issues or knockoff/counterfeit product out there, that some people have reported on other forum's posts
 
The results look very good for the PTM7950, I just want to get it from a reliable vendor


MODDIY if you want an authentic one that performs better than some of the pre packaged knockoffs of Amazon. There are legit ones on Amazon but I wanted to ensure I got the real thing.



Maybe, if 4 other people wanted to join me & buy some in bulk as a group, say everyone buys 10  --> there seems to be a big discount @ Qt of 50.  I do not "need" (10) 80mm X 80mm pads - but @ that price, why not
 
I would have to call PPCs & find out what is possible, as online inventory is not showing that many available to order currently.
 
Over on PPCs ---> MODDIY is selling their product
Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Pad 80mm X 40mm = $26.29 ea .......... Buy 50 for $19.50 each and save 26% 

80mm X 80mm = $48.58 ea ......... Buy 50 for $19.50 each and save 60%

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/08 08:24:58 (permalink)
To try and save you a bit of sanity @Cool GTX, I am running both of these in my 13900K (PCM-1) and 14900KS (PTM7950) builds, and they seem to function exactly the same as any type of "authentic" PTM 7950. In fact, achieving much higher OC stability than previously, better temps by about ~5C across the board under load and similar voltage settings as my previous settings with PK-3, which was crashing quite constantly under load with OC clocks. Huge improvement in thermals and OC stability with these, can confirm since I've tested both:
 
PTM7950 80x80x0.2mm Phase Change GPU Thermal Padhttps://www.newegg.com/p/2MB-001F-00072?Item=9SIA4REK368786
UPSIREN PCM-1 Thermal Grease Replacement PCM Padhttps://www.newegg.com/p/2MB-00B8-00010
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/08 09:32:31 (permalink)
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To try and save you a bit of sanity @Cool GTX, I am running both of these in my 13900K (PCM-1) and 14900KS (PTM7950) builds, and they seem to function exactly the same as any type of "authentic" PTM 7950. In fact, achieving much higher OC stability than previously, better temps by about ~5C across the board under load and similar voltage settings as my previous settings with PK-3, which was crashing quite constantly under load with OC clocks. Huge improvement in thermals and OC stability with these, can confirm since I've tested both:
 
PTM7950 80x80x0.2mm Phase Change GPU Thermal Pad
https://www.newegg.com/p/2MB-001F-00072?Item=9SIA4REK368786
UPSIREN PCM-1 Thermal Grease Replacement PCM Pad
https://www.newegg.com/p/2MB-00B8-00010


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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/14 22:50:45 (permalink)
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/14 23:07:40 (permalink)

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/15 10:57:13 (permalink)
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Sadly the card needs more power to maintain it and oc the crap out of my vram lol
no artifacts, it finished but yeah it needs to be volt modded.

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/26 23:43:44 (permalink)
I also tried PTM7950 on my TUF 4090.
After one week, I would say the core temperature didn't drop compared to high quality pastes, but the hotspot did. And it seems to only get better over time rather than get worse which it did with 3 high quality pastes that I tried. 
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/04/27 11:35:13 (permalink)
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I also tried PTM7950 on my TUF 4090.
After one week, I would say the core temperature didn't drop compared to high quality pastes, but the hotspot did. And it seems to only get better over time rather than get worse which it did with 3 high quality pastes that I tried. 
Highly recommended.


It will take some time to see the full results, I went from 28-32c idle to 72c at full load with cyberpunk fully maxed out with the hot spot hitting 82c and that was with an aggressive fan curve. This is after a year of ownership as things slowly heated up.

With the pad installed and cured. Went down to 25c idle, a max temp of 57c and the hot spot not exceeding 67.1c. Once I yeeted my overclocks as you see above the Honeywell PTM7950 pad cured rather quickly and temps got better all around. 

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/01 01:47:27 (permalink)
New month. So here is the update on my temps...
 
Temps are still doing great. 
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/01 02:04:37 (permalink)
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New month. So here is the update on my temps...
 
Temps are still doing great. 


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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/01 13:50:24 (permalink)
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New month. So here is the update on my temps...
 
Temps are still doing great. 


Good to hear.  I'm hoping to repaste my year old EKWB install in the next couple weeks.  I just got back from a long vacation and didn't get to it yet.  I was going to try KPX on it, had already bought before you guys were talking about the other one.  Will be interesting to see how it compares to the Kryonaut I put on there the first time.  Probably going to do my CPU with it while I'm in there as well (2+ year old Kryonaut on that as well).

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/03 06:25:17 (permalink)
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If you opened your RTX 4090 to re-paste it you might have voided the warranty. 

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/04 07:57:13 (permalink)
How do you guys cut these pads to down to size of the gpu and cpu? I am gonna redo 2 of my watercooled computer systems next weekend.
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/04 11:59:32 (permalink)
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How do you guys cut these pads to down to size of the gpu and cpu? I am gonna redo 2 of my watercooled computer systems next weekend.

Sharp scissors worked for me.
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/04 12:02:33 (permalink)
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How do you guys cut these pads to down to size of the gpu and cpu? I am gonna redo 2 of my watercooled computer systems next weekend.

Sharp scissors worked for me.

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/04 14:00:00 (permalink)
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How do you guys cut these pads to down to size of the gpu and cpu? I am gonna redo 2 of my watercooled computer systems next weekend.

Sharp scissors worked for me.

Thank you.

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/05 09:21:13 (permalink)
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How do you guys cut these pads to down to size of the gpu and cpu? I am gonna redo 2 of my watercooled computer systems next weekend.


I used an x-acto knife, I used painters tape on the gpu die itself because you cannot take proper measurements at least on mine due to the caps in the way without a caliper. Large piece of blue painters tape X-acto knife to cut around the die gently, peel off place on Honeywell ptm7950 pad as a cutting template stencil, use x-acto Knife with a ruler to help keep a straight line, apply it to the gpu die, toss my air cooler back on and done.

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/12 07:45:52 (permalink)
I got it setup in one of my computer with my eVga 3090Ti and i9-14900KF with these pads on both cpu and gpu. I have both my cpu and gpu with waterblocks installed on them. Temps are almost the same as before but don't rise in temps as quickly with regular paste on them before. Is there a cure time for these pads in which temps start to go lower? It took me a total 6 hours from start to finish to it up and running. I will be doing my 2nd computer this weekend with MSI 4090 and i9-14900KS. I had to stick the pads in my refrigerator for about a hour before applying them to the cpu and gpu.

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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/12 09:45:20 (permalink)
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I got it setup in one of my computer with my eVga 3090Ti and i9-14900KF with these pads on both cpu and gpu. I have both my cpu and gpu with waterblocks installed on them. Temps are almost the same as before but don't rise in temps as quickly with regular paste on them before. Is there a cure time for these pads in which temps start to go lower? It took me a total 6 hours from start to finish to it up and running. I will be doing my 2nd computer this weekend with MSI 4090 and i9-14900KS. I had to stick the pads in my refrigerator for about a hour before applying them to the cpu and gpu.

Mine seemed to be good to go after the first 15 minute burn in at 576w.
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Re: Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\ 2024/05/13 08:44:48 (permalink)
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I got it setup in one of my computer with my eVga 3090Ti and i9-14900KF with these pads on both cpu and gpu. I have both my cpu and gpu with waterblocks installed on them. Temps are almost the same as before but don't rise in temps as quickly with regular paste on them before. Is there a cure time for these pads in which temps start to go lower? It took me a total 6 hours from start to finish to it up and running. I will be doing my 2nd computer this weekend with MSI 4090 and i9-14900KS. I had to stick the pads in my refrigerator for about a hour before applying them to the cpu and gpu.


You may need to lower your fans and pump speeds to really get it to bake properly at an accelerated rate. Hardware needs to exceed 45c and stay well above 45c to bake & cure properly, the more heat the better. It's what it was designed for and around after all. Like on my AIO cooled cpu and vapor chambered gpu it has been amazing.

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