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Re:Just Started 2010/03/30 21:47:26 (permalink)
Yay!  Now, if you're brave enough, you can try adding back the info you had before and see if it will take it.
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/30 21:51:58 (permalink)
Cant put it in my sig but it will fit in my comments space


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/30 21:53:43 (permalink)
And the font stuff came back, just below the badge this time.

Signing off for the night. See you later.
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/30 21:57:38 (permalink)
Thanks again rj! Goodnight


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 08:53:09 (permalink)
Ok fellas I have another question. Will running the GPU client at the same time as running SMP have an effect on how fast my TPF is on SMP?


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 09:00:15 (permalink)
I see you got the kinks worked out already
Each gpu client slows down your smp, as the gpu needs some cpu cycles as well. How much, I can´t tell. You can even try to fold on only 6 or 7 cores and leave the rest open for your gpus and other tasks. Ancheck what gives you the best overall system output.


 
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 09:34:49 (permalink)
Yeah it took while but I think we have finally figured most of it out haha. Is their a way to assign the different cores to fold and leave one or two for other things besides adjusting the percentage?


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 09:38:05 (permalink)
yep, in your shortcut, where you have the -smp ....
make it -smp x(where x is the number of cores you want to use) -advmethods -whatever else
the screen I´ve posted earlier with the tpf is an i7 950 running -smp 6. To leave me 2 cores for gpu, browsing and everything else
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 11:27:23 (permalink)
K thanks. I set it to a 6 and it did lower my total CPU usuage from 100 to 92 or 93 percent or so. Resource manager does show the two cores are not as stressed as the others but they are still up around 80 to 90 percent. I suppose that is the GPU client and other resources using that.


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 11:33:14 (permalink)
Probably, but mine looks the same.
Running -smp 6 or 7 won´t give you as much ppd as smp 8, but leaves you ressources for other stuff. It´s up to you to find the best compromise.

 
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 11:40:34 (permalink)
What GPU's are you using for your GPU client?


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 12:07:08 (permalink)
well,
rig 1 (Mods Rigs)
x4 955 BE
2* 285

rig 2
q9650
1 260
1 250

rig 3
i7 860
1 260

rig 4
i7 950
1 9800 GTX+

rig 5
x4 955 BE
4 260s

rig 6 and 7
i7 950 native linux bigadv
no gpu folding

rig 8 (out of service)
4 275s
I think that´s all of them


except for rig 4 ( my everyday rig) they´re all full time folders and rig 1 is used for an occasional gaming session
 Right now I´m in some kind of transition from winter to summer and the upcoming fermis (1 470 ordered)

edit:
here´s my farm mid November
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=29180
some things have changed since them, but some rigs are still the same
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 12:15:30 (permalink)
Yep that is an impressive folding setup. I will just have to be content with my everyday/gaming/folding rig until the end of summer haha


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 12:29:11 (permalink)
Hey, an i7 and a gpu are nothing to snooze at.
Every little bit helps, and it can be a casual folder who´s working on a golden work unit and makes a breakthrough

 
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Re:Just Started 2010/03/31 14:15:50 (permalink)
That is a good thought to keep in mind. Thanks


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:06:47 (permalink)
K guys I have a another question. Right now I am working on a 15000000 protein and I am averaging 460 ns/day....this is odd because an all the other cases I have been observing the 20000000 units and most of the time the 10000000 units I will average 240-250 ns/day...is their something about the different unit sizes that may cause this or what do you guys think is happening? Thanks, R3V


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:24:07 (permalink)
number of atoms can make a big change in speed
i have some that run at 250ns and seen a few hit 750ns
i don't use tray anymore so i don't know whats going on with new WU
pure CMD and A3 (i noted about 1-2k ppd more per gpu over tray)

2nd i used taskmanger and set Affinity so A3 use's 7 of 8 and set all the gpu to use just the first one
i noted that smp will make the GPU's slow down by as much as 40% if they are on the same core (or HT core)
post edited by techmasterjoe - 2010/04/01 19:25:18

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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:27:22 (permalink)
Thanks for the reply joe. I will see if my GPU might be leeching off of my SMP cores


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:34:35 (permalink)
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K guys I have a another question. Right now I am working on a 15000000 protein and I am averaging 460 ns/day....this is odd because an all the other cases I have been observing the 20000000 units and most of the time the 10000000 units I will average 240-250 ns/day...is their something about the different unit sizes that may cause this or what do you guys think is happening? Thanks, R3V


From that post (showing ns/day) it looks like you are opening the viewer, is that correct? Avoid this at all costs. The best thing that can happen is your wus slow down. The worst thing that can happen is your system crashes. Everything you need to determine how well your setup is working is contained in HFM.net.
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:37:15 (permalink)
use Precision under config it has a option to see gpu load you will see the gpu at 90%+ load if it's ok less thing 85% then smp is taxing threads
i havent seen what your system's spec's are so i don't know how many GPU's your running but i have done more points with a i7 and a 260 solo in a day

if you PM me i can setup a full set gpu and cpu smp for you so all you have to do is click and go
(if i do you will need winrar to unzip as it will have a password it will have HMF setup to)
post edited by techmasterjoe - 2010/04/01 19:41:23

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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:38:19 (permalink)
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number of atoms can make a big change in speed
i have some that run at 250ns and seen a few hit 750ns
i don't use tray anymore so i don't know whats going on with new WU
pure CMD and A3 (i noted about 1-2k ppd more per gpu over tray)

2nd i used taskmanger and set Affinity so A3 use's 7 of 8 and set all the gpu to use just the first one
i noted that smp will make the GPU's slow down by as much as 40% if they are on the same core (or HT core)


You are probably better off using a program like Process Lasso or WinAFC to set affinity and priority. I don't know if taskmanager will continue to keep the affinity you set once the fahcore shuts down and restarts with a new wu. The other programs will always ensure the fahcores are running on the right cpu cores.
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 19:42:41 (permalink)
thats true but my info was just to start off with to see if it helps (i use winAFC)

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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 20:11:58 (permalink)
First off guys I have added my SMP info to HFM and is working fine but I didnt know it recorded the GPU data also


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 20:26:40 (permalink)
So I need to also set up a client for my GPU in HFM too?


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 21:04:58 (permalink)
Any clients you are running can be displayed in HFM. Same setup as SMP just point it to the folder for the client you are entering and it will get the info.
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 21:13:26 (permalink)
I tried to add it using the add client feature. It doesn't seem to be detecting it. I put in the log folder as the GPU client folder in my program files and I assume the CPU frequency I put in for the SMP will be the same for this. Anything I'm doing wrong?


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 21:16:43 (permalink)
Do not point it to the Program files directory. Each GPU should have a directory of its own under users\(your username)\AppData\Roaming  these are the directories you want them to point to.
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 21:17:17 (permalink)
Well rj I am heading to bed so I won't keep you up late tonight :) We'll bring this back up tomorrow if I can't get it working. Thanks again!


                                    
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 21:17:59 (permalink)
I don't use the frequency thing. Not too worried about my PPGHz, just PPD.
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Re:Just Started 2010/04/01 21:19:06 (permalink)
It's a long weekend for me, off for the next 4 days (YAY ME!), so I can stay up for a bit if needed.
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