Nereus
 
The 13900 reviews are coming out - it's a bit of a beast! Damn thing runs hot as hell though, although that's hardly surprising with 300W boost (or maybe 350W?). That's not going to make the green agenda people very happy! AiO with a 360 radiator is possibly minimum cooling if you plan to regularly use the potential of this CPU (like with rendering). Probably will scream on LN2, going to be interesting for sure.
 
I may just stick with the 12900K for now though.

 
I had a pre-order in with a company that said they expected them to ship today. Today they said "no it's not shipping today and we have no idea when it will"....so that has been cancelled and I ordered from someone cheaper.
 
Honestly, looking at power draw and heat, this reminds me of 11900k. The big difference is that intel expected people to OC the 11900k to get the most out of it (I mean...they called it "Rocket Lake" lol). That thing drew 330W for me if I let it. Before I had a 3080ti, my 420mm rad kept up with it fine, too. I had to drop it down a bit on the all-core with the 3080ti.
 
So I'm thinking I have a pretty good idea what will be required and I'm good with it 

fragility_V1

Nereus
I may just stick with the 12900K for now though.

may....
 
 
....will be in your cart before the end of the day?

  lol.. tempting as it is, and benchmarks sure look tasty, but unlikely I'll jump just yet. I'm not buying into the 4000 NVidia series either, so I'll probably skip the 13th Gen Intel as well - the 12900K only came out 6 months ago so it's still pretty fresh.    ..those 13900K benchmarks though..
 
14th Gen is going to be real interesting with (supposedly) a big change to tiled architecture ..and I believe a new LGA 1851 socket, which is another reason I may skip 13th Gen. Launch rumor for desktops is 2H 2023, so that's not all that long to wait. The graphic tile is something new, not sure exactly how useful that will be.
 
 

Nereus
 
The 13900 reviews are coming out - it's a bit of a beast! Damn thing runs hot as hell though, although that's hardly surprising with 300W boost (or maybe 350W?). That's not going to make the green agenda people very happy! AiO with a 360 radiator is possibly minimum cooling if you plan to regularly use the potential of this CPU (like with rendering). Probably will scream on LN2, going to be interesting for sure.
 
I may just stick with the 12900K for now though.
 

8.8 GHz single core valid:
https://hwbot.org/submission/5102721_elmor_cpu_frequency_core_i9_13900k_8812.85_mhz
 
 8.34 GHz 32m:
https://hwbot.org/submission/5102702_safedisk_superpi___32m_core_i9_13900k(8p)_3min_4sec_54ms
 
thing is an absolute monster. was able to get best buy to price match microcenter in store pricing for 13900K and 13600K. Gonna be a fun weekend!

Nereus

B0baganoosh

Nereus
 
The 13900 reviews are coming out - it's a bit of a beast! Damn thing runs hot as hell though, although that's hardly surprising with 300W boost (or maybe 350W?). That's not going to make the green agenda people very happy! AiO with a 360 radiator is possibly minimum cooling if you plan to regularly use the potential of this CPU (like with rendering). Probably will scream on LN2, going to be interesting for sure.
 
I may just stick with the 12900K for now though.

 
I had a pre-order in with a company that said they expected them to ship today. Today they said "no it's not shipping today and we have no idea when it will"....so that has been cancelled and I ordered from someone cheaper.
 
Honestly, looking at power draw and heat, this reminds me of 11900k. The big difference is that intel expected people to OC the 11900k to get the most out of it (I mean...they called it "Rocket Lake" lol). That thing drew 330W for me if I let it. Before I had a 3080ti, my 420mm rad kept up with it fine, too. I had to drop it down a bit on the all-core with the 3080ti.
 
So I'm thinking I have a pretty good idea what will be required and I'm good with it 

I don't think I saw much over 275W or so on my 11900k, and although it would do 5.3GHz on all cores no problem, it wouldn't do 5.4, it was weird like that. Temps were ok with a 3090 on the same loop, using 2x 360mm 30mm radiators.


4000 series and 13900K on a loop.. going to need some hefty cooling. Both are rated for fairly high temps though, so no big deal, just a matter of getting used to seeing higher temps and viewing them as the new normal.  :)

 
I'm holding off on 4k-Nvidia for now. I know the gains are huge, but so is the price tag and I couldn't fit one in my case right now if I wanted to. I'd have to wait for some pre-blocked versions to come out as I want a warranty and EVGA is out of the game. With all that known, I have no problem waiting to see what RDNA3 does. I'm thinking next time I upgrade my GPU, I'm going to want a new power supply anyway and if I'm doing all that, I figure I'll probably just go with a new case setup and get a MO-RA3 to go with the whole thing.
 
Knowing all that...I'm looking at 13th gen as a way to prolong this current build as far as possible. It fits in my z690 board so it's a minimal cost upgrade and lets me have fun with some new hardware. Of course, I could get a pre-blocked GPU at some point, add a 280mm rad to my current loop and probably make it all work fine, but the idea of a fresh start with a MO-RA3 and all new parts is pretty exciting...and I'm willing to sit on that idea for a couple more years to see what 14th gen and maybe even 15th gen do (as well as AMD's new stuff!)...I no longer have favorites or brand-preferences for any of it with all the competition now and my GPU brand of choice deciding to ride off into the sunset.

haha in case it wasn't clear from the links, those are not my scores. just the new CPU frequency valid and superpi 32M WRs 

I am compelled to get the Kingpin but I only have the 13700k.  I am afraid if this is going to be the last Kingpin release

frankd3
I'm seeing reviewers using power limits to test the efficiency of the 13900k. One was DerBauer.
Is that something that will be available in the bios?
 
It was not available on my Z590 FTW. It would be fun to try that rather than tediously adjusting voltages or underclocking.

I don't believe it's in the z690 bios either, but I can't say I've gone looking for it.

frankd3

B0baganoosh

frankd3
I'm seeing reviewers using power limits to test the efficiency of the 13900k. One was DerBauer.
Is that something that will be available in the bios?
 
It was not available on my Z590 FTW. It would be fun to try that rather than tediously adjusting voltages or underclocking.

I don't believe it's in the z690 bios either, but I can't say I've gone looking for it.

Thanks. I was wondering about that.
I would like to see how that works. Hope we get the feature.

I will add, I'm still on 1.10 I think. I am going to pull the trigger and go to 13900k, so I'll try 2.01 when my pre-order finally ships.

frankd3

B0baganoosh

frankd3

B0baganoosh

frankd3
I'm seeing reviewers using power limits to test the efficiency of the 13900k. One was DerBauer.
Is that something that will be available in the bios?
 
It was not available on my Z590 FTW. It would be fun to try that rather than tediously adjusting voltages or underclocking.

I don't believe it's in the z690 bios either, but I can't say I've gone looking for it.

Thanks. I was wondering about that.
I would like to see how that works. Hope we get the feature.

I will add, I'm still on 1.10 I think. I am going to pull the trigger and go to 13900k, so I'll try 2.01 when my pre-order finally ships.

I'm going to Micro Center shortly. Best price I could find, $569.99. And they're in stock according to website.

I don't live anywhere near one of those, unfortunately. I'll end up paying a little more because of that, unless I can pull Zippytek's trick of going to Best Buy and getting them to price match. My local Best Buy almost never gets new hardware though. They might get their first 13900k sometime next year lol.

Zero939
 
throttlestop lets you set power limits. works with my z690

Thanks. Bookmarked it if I can't do it in bios. Has a lot to it that I'll have to learn. I found a guide that will help me.

Very interested, looking to build a 13th gen Intel rig.  Was looking at the Z690 Dark but I'm gonna wait to see how the Z790 Dark benchmarks.  I'm shooting for 6Ghz on a 13900K chip and EVGA seems to be the only game in town for that.

I'm pretty much in the same boat. Ordered CLX360, which should be arriving at the same time as my 13900K. I'm eyeballing some highly reviewed G.Skill DDR5 memory as well, but I'm also after the corsair M700 or similar, so my holding pattern is all over the place. Upgrading from 8700K, so really looking forward to new build. I'm really happy they're working towards release close to the CPU launch though. I was starting to worry I wouldn't have enough EVGA parts in my case.

I saw Jacob mention on twitter that the launch goal is mid-November for these.

hype! just a few weeks!

So with the z690 dark kingpin being $829 how much do you guys think the z790 dark kingpin will be? $1000?